I’d like an obscure one. One we didn’t see too much of. Felucia, Utapau, one of those. One where the lore isn’t necessarily set in stone (unless more happened there in the episodes of TCW that I still haven’t watched)?
TFA was really good though, so I’m not complaining.
TFA was bad.
TFA was great.
I feel this is the perfect microcosm of this site.
Maybe the entire internet.
THE WHOLE WORLD
THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE
GODDAMMIT FUCK EVERYTHING
Disney execs were reluctant to include non-Caucasian characters
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I’d like to entertain DE’s assessment of ESB taking place over a matter of months. Although, perhaps weeks is a bit more palatable to me. There is a sense (to me) that a lot of time passes in certain sections; Luke’s recovery, stuck in the asteroid field, hanging around Bespin, etc…
I think it’s new compositions. The orchestra sounds much smaller than in the ‘Star Wars’ sessions they use in that drama. Granted, they do use some interesting alternates of some cues (plus Take 20 of main title, for some reason), but considering how far along in production ‘A New Hope’ was during the sessions in comparison to ‘Empire Strikes Back’, I can’t imagine that beyond some nips and tucks here or there that there was nearly as much cut footage as there clearly was during the ‘Empire Strikes Back’ sessions. Thus, no place for the music in that clip.
Why do they always do this!? WHY!?!
they shouldn’t put Luke on any posters for this movie.
I agree. I remember I was at a bookstore in January, and he was being plastered all over a bunch of magazine and book covers!
My problem with the Donner Cut is that it feels so fragmented in comparison to the Lester Cut. Some of that’s down to Michael Thau’s editing, but some of it comes to the simple fact that it is two different scripts being butted together.
It feels like such a mixed bag, far more than the original Lester Cut. Lester Cut is a fun, light and well-made Superman romp. The Donner Cut tries to be more than that, but it can’t always be with the footage it’s provided with.
The Brando scenes, the opening, and definitely the ending Superman/Lois scenes seem RIGHT out of the first movie, and definitely show how good the original script would have been if filmed fully.
I almost wish the storyboards had just been mixed with the filmed footage, and the original Baird cut of the Superman II footage was used. It wouldn’t play as a complete movie, sure, but it would be a very good approximation of what we could have gotten.
I do prefer to watch the Lester Cut on most occasions, though. There are way too many negative technical aspects of the Donner Cut for me to justify.
P.S.: The RIC blows them both out of the water, but whatever…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmCmsk9_qgY
I’m just going to leave this here.
glub
filthy Millennials
Can you not? There are some younger people on this forum you know.
Yes, there are. We call them lazy Flounders.
I guess I’m a Flounder now.
glub
I think some of Bruce Timm’s Star Wars art has been posted here before… But here it is in color! I absolutely adore his style mixed with Star Wars.
I took this quiz on starwars.com and I got Sy Snootles 😦
I got Max Rebo!
… That means I’m nuts.
Well, unlike Edward James Olmos, there was no free-of-charge “say hi” option for Mayhew. I saw him, but was too low on cash to do much of anything else.
EJO was pretty awesome to talk with, though. ^-^
Any indication when Mayhew is going to continue this? I think he’s in the UK at this time, and filming probably ran over.
Actually, I can say firsthand that he’s in Kansas City right now for a convention. I’m meeting him at said convention very soon, in fact!
I’ve been going through ABC’s Complete Archival Collection, changing the names to reflect Williams’ own archive, playing with the order and so on, in order to attempt a complete archive of this masterpiece of a score (much like what I imagine Intrada would do if they were at all able). I do have a couple of questions, however, about some cues which are mentioned in this article: http://www.jwfan.com/?p=4092 and are rather difficult to find other information about.
First, the Yoda’s Entrance end fix. This seems like a bit of a bear, if you ask me, based on this article, who states the official versions are some sort of amalgam of the original recording and the revised insert. From what I can tell, GoodMusician’s set had this alternate insert in the bonus tracks section. Can anyone confirm this? And, if not, would there be any way to have the two versions presented separately on a collection?
Second, a question about the cue ‘Finale’. According to this article, a discrete version was also considered (which only makes me wonder even more what Williams’ original ‘Finale’ concert suite was supposed to be) and jotted down within the actual score. Which doesn’t surprise me too much; what does surprise me is that he claims it was actually recorded. Not only that, it has appeared on an official product, no less; The Crimson Empire Audiobooks. According to his descriptions, it would have simply held the final note and not transitioned into the ‘End Credits’ score, and simply had a few harp bars play out the ending. If this is on those audiobooks (and in a salvageable form), this would be an amazing thing to include in this compendium. I think it is possible; from the clips of this audiobook that I’ve heard online, it uses a LOT of the ESB score.
Additionally, is it just shoddy mixing or a legitimate alternate recording that presents ‘Darth Vader’s Theme’ the way it is. In every re-recording, and the film itself, there are several pronounced cymbal clashes that are completely absent from the RSO CD and every other source. I SWEAR I hear remnants of them on the original LP, but maybe I’m just going crazy.
If these are all crazy ramblings or old news, my sincere apologies.
I’ve had kids at my various stages of school get things wrong.
A friend of mine mentioned his dad had a huge vintage collection, which he stated was like from the “1950’s or whatever”.
Also, pretty sure I heard a kid call them the first color movies ever. But that was a LONG time ago, so don’t hold it against him.
Now, I’ve got the people in some film classes who say that midi-chlorians (I think that’s the first time I’ve ever actually said or typed that out…) were always an intended part of the mythos. Although he actually came around after I cited some sources…
Awesome! Didn’t mean to step on your toes, if I did. I just knew my Alamoes (is that proper plural?) have shown both those movies numerous times via DCP. But I’m not surprised at all that an Alamo showed them on film if they had access to prints. I’m rather jealous!
Eh, don’t worry. You guys have reason to suspect otherwise.
I just hope I’m right.
@the guy who mentioned Jaws and Close Encounters… You sure they were 35mm?
I HELD IT IN MY HANDS!!!
I mean, it was the director’s cut… But still!
Guys… This is the Alamo. I know the Alamo. They’re going to be using film.
They’ve made a point of using film at every screening of theirs I’ve ever gone to. They’ve gotten absolutely pristine film prints of Jaws and Close Encounters.
It’s gonna be a 1997 SE print set, I know it.
Someone over at the Sergio Leone Web Board posted scans (with red reduction) of 35mm elements. Pretty cool to see all this stuff popping up lately!
mike siegel said:
I finally found some time to scan some frames from my 35mm elements (the ‘cannon’ shots are from my trailer). Just as another reference regarding this endless color-debatte probably of some interest for some of you. My prints are slightly more reddish, I reduced the red during scanning. Otherwise the colors are just the way I saw them on the big screen (just 3 years ago I screened a German 35mm at our local cinema.)
Whoa! If I’m not mistaken, aren’t these shots, like, not in any currently available home video version?! This is getting me really excited!
I’d only have one Inquisitor in the entire show.
Actually, I like that there’s a few. After listening to the Radio Dramas, I like the idea that there are others like Vader in the ranks of the Empire.
I would prefer if they didn’t all look so bland (which this seems to maybe rectify).
Threepio. Something about him, I think it’s just because he has so much less to do in this film. I don’t know who writes Threepio well, if I’m honest, but I find myself gravitating to the SW version a lot more. I can’t explain it, his humor just seems generally lamer.
The hopeless part of me wish they’d employed some of the dialogue/imagery from the Williamson comic (“Give 'em hell, kid.”, Yoda watching the Dagobah crash, cavernous and beautiful Cloud City), maybe kept some more of the Williams music, maybe some of the other scene extensions around Bespin…
You… You didn’t have to do that. Why did you do that!? WHY!? I was planning on sleeping again someday, you know!
Was Montross in the Marvel comic? When I hear that name the first place my mind goes to is the Bounty Hunter GameCube game, but I know it predates that by quite a while.
Nope! Not in the comic, not in the radio drama, not in the novelization… It’s completely new!
Okay, I swear I am JUST learning about this Montross guy! How long has everyone here known about him!?!?!
EDIT: Haha! It is new! This isn’t in the Starkiller version! Thank you, Mr. Mayhew!!!
