While we’re on the subject, I thought Inside Out's win was an absolute crime.
Boy and the World was a far superior film with a more impactful and earnest story.
I’m tired of Pixar winning for just showing up.
Yeah, I thought that was pretty silly as well. All around not my favorite year for the Academy…
WoT was absolutely wonderful. Hertzfeldt does amazing work.
Yes he does, my friend.
Yes he does.
World of Tomorrow (2015)
Fuck Bear Story, aka. the bullshit short film which seems to have hypnotized everyone into believing it’s greatness when it’s worse than most pre-film Disney shorts.
World of Tomorrow is great. It’s funny, bizarre, even surprisingly atmospheric at times. Most of all, I didn’t feel like a first grader being read a storybook by his teacher who proceeded to give him a sad lip pout at the end, which is even worse because the teacher who did said lip pouting is going to get an assload of awards and praise for doing nothing at all but telling a story with a fucking music box and not even attempting to try anything and I know that this is going to seem really really badly written but I’m in such a blind fucking rage that I don’t fucking care because I want people to know that the Oscars have always, and will likely forever be, on the wrong side of history maybe not every time but especially this time because I’ll likely always remember World of Tomorrow for being great but I’ll just remember Bear Story as that stupid, sappy, manipulative piece it really is I mean I didn’t think Richard Williams’ new film was anything special story-wise but it’s Richard Williams so it looks fucking amazing because he has fucking talent that extends past knowing how to badly puppeteer some bears across the screen and I know I’m trivializing the work of people here but I don’t care because good work goes into bad films constantly so there.
Yeah. World of Tomorrow. That guy from “Rejected” has come a long way. Or maybe not. I don’t know. Where’s the Tylenol…
Because of a newfound interest with the music of John Williams (and the flurry of research that has sparked) I decided to take on the project of reconstructing a sort of aural facsimile of the 1977 Zubin Mehta concert. ALL of it.
I emphasize ALL of it because much of the concert (the parts by the L.A. Philharmonic) has been released on CD recently, including Mehta’s 1978 recording of the original Star Wars suite. However, not only does this leave a good third of the concert out, but it also may be incomplete (or have a few erroneous inclusions). As I know it, there are three existing recordings of the 4th movement “The Battle”; the original by Zubin Mehta, the 1978 Charles Gerhardt recording, and a rather muddy one by Richard Hayman which appeared on a Naxos USA CD (I believe this was on GoodMusician’s complete score set). In terms of sonic quality, the Mehta version wins hands down, but there may in fact be a missing section.
In both the Gerhardt and the Hayman recordings, most of the trench run score is in place, so the transition to the final part is a little more graceful. On Mehta, however, there is a large section which doesn’t appear. What’s missing is right after the section adapted from “X-Wings Draw Fire”, which on the Mehta recording jumps right to the track “Use the Force” (where all official DVDs cut in for that chapter, the part that plays as C-3PO worries for R2). I do know that Gerhardt often took liberties with the composition of his suites, so I wouldn’t be surprised if he was the reason for this (especially since “Here They Come!” didn’t exist until him but has become a necessary part of most Star Wars suite recordings).
There is also the issue of the first movement.
I am going by this program: [img]http://i.imgur.com/vLzcmZP.jpg[/img]
It went on eBay a while back, and since I wasn’t able to snag it, I just decided to save the photos. I only have one track for this early section; William Shatner’s spoken word of “War of the Worlds”. Everything else is a total mystery to me. According to this, Gil Mellé was in attendance, and while I can find a wealth of information about him, the pieces he’s claimed to have played (“In the Year of the Comet”, “The Interplanetary Suite”, and “Spacetta”) do not seem to exist according to the WWW. Additionally, it seems I hit a serious bit of luck with discovering Shatner’s reading of “War of the Worlds” since a reading by him of “Whales Weep Not” seems to not exist either (even though I’ve found interviews of him discussing the damn thing!).
If there is anyone out there who would happen to have the answers to a few of these questions, I would be most gracious! The final tracklist would (hopefully) be (with currently available pieces * and incomplete pieces **):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cPvY17ZdFM
Why does the main theme sound so much better here!?!
or a gay joke…?
Wtf.
I don’t know. Reading this now, I don’t even understand my own logic…
John Doom said:
Mayhew tweeted Biggs’ farewell to Luke on Tatooine: https://twitter.com/TheWookieeRoars/status/701178311175614464The tagline on that latest post is pushing the 40 year thing. And it really doesn’t make sense. “It’s wonderful seeing how far we’ve come in 40 years.” It’s a photo of a movie script (also, someone please buy Mayhew a flatbed scanner). So why mention 40 years unless . . . the news has something to do with 40 years?
I think it’s either a comment on the quality of dialogue or a gay joke…?
Mayhew’s pics are actually of the shooting script. Luke’s surname was changed during the shooting process (happily before any footage had been filmed with the old name). The opening crawl was likewise rewritten in post.
So is that why Mayhew’s script says “saga 1” instead of “episode 1”?
According to Wookieepedia the third draft had “saga” and the fourth draft had “episode”, so what version is the shooting script based on?The complete versions are easy to follow for the most part, bar the titles. We do have for the most part all of the major ones (including the IMO bizarre first draft). In regards to the older versions, many of them are simply half-baked story ideas or world-building things.
There was an actual Journal of the Whills at one point; a three page first-person account of a very different story (which I think could have made for a very interesting take on the prequels). From there, it was mostly scattered notes until the treatment (which is actually on that site linked earlier, and interesting because Lucas actually states this takes place in the thirty-third century, instead of long long ago).
You can find a bunch about Journal of the Whills from this thread;
Do you have some idea of have many of his “half-baked” older version I could potentially find online?
His early notes are actually what fascinates me the most here (the more separate from the finished product the better).
Try ‘Making of Star Wars’ early sections. You get to hear all about Alexander Xerxes II and the planet Decarte, Chuiee Two Thorpe and his father Han, and the Great Feast of the Pleabs. Then again, you hear a lot of that in that thread too.
The complete versions are easy to follow for the most part, bar the titles. We do have for the most part all of the major ones (including the IMO bizarre first draft). In regards to the older versions, many of them are simply half-baked story ideas or world-building things.
There was an actual Journal of the Whills at one point; a three page first-person account of a very different story (which I think could have made for a very interesting take on the prequels). From there, it was mostly scattered notes until the treatment (which is actually on that site linked earlier, and interesting because Lucas actually states this takes place in the thirty-third century, instead of long long ago).
You can find a bunch about Journal of the Whills from this thread;
Hmm… According to the Complete Metropolis Blu-Ray, the East German Staatliches Filmarchiv der DDR made a rudimentary restoration in 1972. Wonder if that was widely circulated, or if it was like that attempted reconstruction of The Passion of Joan of Arc, where only certain film students or archivists were allowed to see it?
EDIT: It could have also been some derivative the 1927 Pollock edit, since that one was apparently pretty widely circulated until Moroder’s version.
Nearly incomprehensible, sure. Inferior, definitely. But it would be interesting to think about. Well, for me anyway.
I know the editing history of this film is insane, but is there any version available which would represent what inspired Lucas? You know, that television version which became a part of his ‘concept reel’?
I have made some WIP edits of the scenes in AOTC. Check them out here https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5Kx80VdTyyocGtCSFh5MFVZcmM . The cuts I’ve talked about would be the videos named “she’s in pain” and “Tattoine rough cut” (which would be at the very end of the movie).
Regarding ROTS, I think that with some re arrangement it could work. There are lines that could have a new or different meaning and could collaborate with the idea, such as “something is happening, I’m not the jedi I should be” (because he realises he shouldn’t feel tempted).
You, sir, got a legitimate chuckle out of me with your ‘friend helping a friend’ scene! Nicely done!
I’m not sure if this is the correct thread to post this but am I the only one who is sick of the half assed memes?
I guess the person who made this forgot that Kylo threatened Hux’s life (implied threat) and Hux didn’t say shitall.
It also pisses me off that Kylo is now seen as a whiner like Anakin even though her never whined ONCE in the film. Seeing stuff like this on a daily basis is beginning to piss me off because now people are taking the stuff literally.
Eh. I thought that one was kinda funny.
March of the Resistance! Though… The film version is a lot better…
I think Bosk is doing some pro-level trolling.
I’m no troll, just have my own mind. And her acting was very Natalie Portman.
I’m not sure if you’re trolling or in very deep denial…
To the one who said the editing in TFA was terrible… it’s just been nominated for an Academy Award.
Huh. I mean, I guess my only criticism was that all the shots were too short. In terms of scene-to-scene transitions, I didn’t think it was too bad at all.
I take it Collin didn’t care for the movie?
It’s the most vitriolically hateful thing I’ve read about it so far. And it came across as a little unfounded… To me, at least. Then again, I liked it.
Hey there
My name is Collin and I am a die hard Star Wars fan, I love it. I also am a writer and after watching the film I felt passionately about putting down my thoughts. I humbly ask you keep an open mind from one Force user to another. 😃 I wrote the piece out of love for Star Wars and did the review for free for StereoEmbersMagazine because of that. I have lots of funny Star Wars videos and go in depth from a writing/filmmaking/storytelling perspective which I think is unique and will add to the reviews already out. Thank you for taking the time to read this, take a quick peek if you like and may the Force BB(tee-hee) with you either way, always. I felt some issues with the film were it didn’t take it self seriously enough at times, it wasted lots of script time on one liners which hurt the plot, and at times the stakes didn’t feel very high at all. There was however a lot to like too, Daisy was a strong actor for instance. I have a very detailed review I’ll link at the bottom if anyone wants to read an in depth review with funny SW videos.
Sincerely,
Collinhttp://stereoembersmagazine.com/star-wars-episode-vii-force-disney-corporate-greed-awakens/
Oh, for crying out loud…
Easy. He ate him.
RIP Han Solo 😦 you will be missed.
THEN MAYBE YOU SHOULDN’T HAVE F*CKING KILLED HIM!!!
Oh, Tack, IIRC Lucas didn’t type up his own scripts for SW 1977; his secretary, Debbie Fine, did.
I recall reading a quote from her complaining about Lucas spelling the same alien names “five or six different ways” one each page. A bit hyperbolic, but somewhat true – evidently GL was trying out different ways of spelling certain phonetic names as he wrote. Fine’s job included proofing the spellings for consistency, but she didn’t always catch everything (see “Youreallians” vs. “Ureallians” for Han Solo’s species in the 1974 rough draft).
Wow. What an unsung hero. I applaud you, Ms. Fine (wherever you are).
Somehow instead of Kissel I got Rinel! (which I thought was a perfectly good planet name, but whatever…)
I hope you don’t mind, but I’ve decided to
stealborrow the name “Rinel” for my own use.
Only if you don’t mind me using the name myself. 😉
Yeah, I’m working on a Prequel rewrite. Partially some of the reason I’m so into this early stuff. I think a lot of the early concepts (rough and second draft, to be precise) have the makings of some awesome Star Wars predecessors. For instance, this concept that the Jedi were being slowly and systematically banned from the galaxy. No secret 66th order.
Only two pages of full narrative for the JOTW were ever written, but GL had evidently more in mind, judging by his outlines of people and places meant to appear in the film. I’ve tried to follow those as best I could, filling in the gaps by reference to the stuff he would’ve seen and associated with each particular locale/character/etc.
As for typing up the single known JOTW page, I’m way ahead of you.
Agreed that the GL of the 1970s was a terrible speller. (In fact, at least one SW book I’ve seen has digitally altered the first page of the ESB treatment to correct some of his misspelled words! Special Editionism goes deep…)
Whoa, I was WAY off. Somehow instead of Kissel I got Rinel! (which I thought was a perfectly good planet name, but whatever…)
That’s just hilarious, too. I can only hope he caught some of his typos when he typed it up. Otherwise Brackett was probably scratching her head trying to figure out what he meant.
Imaginative reconstruction, and a lot of reading and watching pre-1977 books, comics, and movies.
In which case, it’s very impressive indeed!
I was simply under the impression that the original “Journal of the Whills” was a first-person two-page setup story. I’m working on a transcript of the single released page, and it is pretty interesting. Though if I’ve learned anything by looking at both that and the Empire Strikes Back treatment; Lucas is a terrible speller.
I’m going to sound like a complete greenie here, but where did you get the information for this!? I mean, it’s utterly fascinating, but the most I’ve ever seen of this is a single page printed in this book I have. Is there more in a Rinzler book, or…?
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