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I knew it!! I knew this existed!!!

On the 2006 DVD set, there’s a few sections from the TV cut which have completely different sound mixes to the ACTUAL Restored International Cut. This includes the soufflé scene and the Non killing Boy scene.

What’s this new Jor-El stuff? Is it Lex and him actually talking to each other like in the script/theatrical version?

Dreamaster said:

Update (Version 10!)
So taking something Poita and Willrob mentioning to me into consideration about the green snow and the green ending credits, I realized I actually could adjust the hue even more, throw up the saturation levels still high but then back off the red channel considerably. It might not be “accurate” but I really enjoy this version.

Thoughts?

This is the single most beautiful treatment I have ever seen this film receive.

This is my new standard. How can it get better than this? I don’t think it can. As far as I’m concerned, this is my new benchmark.

God help me, I just noticed something else horrible about the SE changes…

So, I was flipping through The Making of Star Wars, and they actually have a shot of the workprint that John Williams used during the scoring sessions. The shot in question is from the ‘Standing By’ sequence, with the fighters flying by Yavin… Except the moon is in the background! Tucked under the planet no less. I thought that it was strange, since I’d never seen that in the original, and lo and behold, it wasn’t! I checked Despecialized, and the shot was just how I remembered it, with no moon to be seen. They must have realized that in a spacial sense it made no sense that you could see the moon while the fighters were very clearly on a linear path for the Death Star. So, for the final composite, they removed the moon element entirely!

I have a question, then…

WHY IS THE MOON THERE IN THE SPECIAL EDITION!!?!??

Edit: Uploaded proof on imgur: http://imgur.com/gallery/mSQEb

I hadn’t seen the original Ghostbusters until last night. Unfortunately I did see the remake in theaters because of my mom. She hated it. We all hated it. I also saw a bit of the sequel on TV recently. That was also pretty bad.

We didn’t hate this one. It was good. Actually funny without resorting to just making everyone as stupid as possible. I thought the hype would kill it for me. It didn’t.

I also realize the new casting was based on stereotypes; the ‘normal’ one, the teddy bear, the brains… and the black one. Not based on characters, on stereotypes. And that the plot of the new one is just the plot of the good one just with no explanation.

In short, it made me like the old one more and hate the new one even more.

Has the shortened “NOOOOO” ever even been confirmed?

suspiciouscoffee said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

And yet they still lack anti-aging medicine …

If you want a movie about anti-aging remedies in space, go watch Star Trek: Insurrection.

Actually, don’t do that, you’ll wanna tear your eyes and ears out and shove them in a blender.

Oh, hey. Someone who hates that movie as much as me.

Wow… He really did have some good ideas here. I’m shocked how many of these backstories I actually really love! Like, pretty much all of them except for the way the force works…

TV’s Frink said:

I once avoided a fight in high school by playing Trivia Pursuit, does that count?

If you challenged the aggressor to a game of Trivial Pursuit in lieu of a fight… Yes.

So… The myth that Lucas conceived the ‘saga’ as one unified whole is one that really boils my blood, because it leads to these very close-minded view. I’ve encountered a certain breed of fan that believes TFA is offensive by its mere existence because it violates the original six-part structure that Lucas intended.

Bullcrap.

The people on this board are generally more knowledgeable than that, so I’m wondering… Has trivia ever won an argument for you?

Here’s an example: at the Midland marathon, there was someone in conversation who brought up the whole "Leia was the ‘other’ " argument. I was eager to step in and mention the original sister storyline from '78.

none said:

User: https://twitter.com/housetohalf has two screen shots.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpNSMQHUEAA2LWH.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpOagRAUMAAnW4o.jpg

See what I mean? The Blu-Ray has this weird “blueberries and cream” complexion for everything. Those two definitely look like what I remember! It was very golden, very appealing (to me, anyway).

SilverWook said:

I never thought of it that way. Whoa.

That was actually going to happen.

I’ve seen a page from one of the books which had a page from ROTS when Palpatine reveals himself to Anakin. Originally, it went way further… Infuriatingly so.

Palpatine actually says “You can think of me as your father”, IIRC

I have no words.

Only unyielding rage.

theMaestro said:

Do the Reliance Media scans have more detail on them then the Blu-ray? If yes, then this move would make sense.

Another question: for the portions of the 2011 version that were left in, did they change the color timing to match the Reliance Media portions, or was it a jarring transition?

I think Reliance was done in 4K.

Yes, the color timing was altered for the scenes from the 2011 cut. It did flow alright, but it was obviously not entirely from the Blu Ray.

bkev said:

Well, we knew the newest Reliance Media scan looked different from the Blus. Perhaps Disney accidentally sent that out?

You know, funny thing about that… I think that might have been it. I did notice that some changes weren’t enacted; for instance, in ROTJ, wasn’t the opening shot of the Rebel fleet recomposited? It sure wasn’t on this print. Matte lines everywhere! And, come to think of it, all the footage with changes was a lot less grainy than the rest…

SilverWook said:

We’re the subs below the image or in the frame?

Right on the frame!

Okay, it IS the 2011 master… But it’s a bit more complicated than that.

One, the colors aren’t the same. They’re almost like the colors in the early Despecialized Editions, but a bit sloppier. In my theater, there was no such thing as the color red. However, the rest of the image looked so good, I didn’t complain.

Two, the subtitles were different. Again, almost like the Despecialized subtitles. They use the same typeface as the theatrical subtitles, and have the same timing as the theatrical ones too. No fading in or out.

Three, WAY more grain than the BD’s. Like, certain scenes legitimately looked like early 35mm scans.

I’m not sure what to think.

Well, heading to this in about an hour. I’ll report back what it’s like.

Star Trek Beyond (2016)

As someone who liked the original 2009 Abrams-verse film and not ‘Into Darkness’, this was a pretty good experience for me. While this certainly has the worst villain (or at least worst-developed) of the trilogy, I think this is the best as an overall film. It has some genuine moments of insanity but it just runs with them, and I honestly applaud that. Unlike ‘Into Darkness’, or '09 for that matter, which felt like they were following some sort of screenwriter’s checklist of necessary moments, this one is far more straightforward.

Thumbs up. See it, make up your own damn mind…

So, this may be incredibly simple and I’m missing something, but I’m missing it nonetheless.

I finally got Toast 14 Pro, and am wanting to burn the Star Wars Despecialized Edition v2.7. My problem is, I’m not seeing a lot of rather important options; namely, no options to add subtitles, and only 8 of the nearly 30 audio tracks being playable.

Are there any Toast users on here who know how to do this?

I’d like an obscure one. One we didn’t see too much of. Felucia, Utapau, one of those. One where the lore isn’t necessarily set in stone (unless more happened there in the episodes of TCW that I still haven’t watched)?

yhwx said:

imperialscum said:

Tyrphanax said:

TFA was really good though, so I’m not complaining.

TFA was bad.

TFA was great.

I feel this is the perfect microcosm of this site.

Maybe the entire internet.

THE WHOLE WORLD

THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE

GODDAMMIT FUCK EVERYTHING

Tobar said:

Disney execs were reluctant to include non-Caucasian characters

…

I’d like to entertain DE’s assessment of ESB taking place over a matter of months. Although, perhaps weeks is a bit more palatable to me. There is a sense (to me) that a lot of time passes in certain sections; Luke’s recovery, stuck in the asteroid field, hanging around Bespin, etc…

I think it’s new compositions. The orchestra sounds much smaller than in the ‘Star Wars’ sessions they use in that drama. Granted, they do use some interesting alternates of some cues (plus Take 20 of main title, for some reason), but considering how far along in production ‘A New Hope’ was during the sessions in comparison to ‘Empire Strikes Back’, I can’t imagine that beyond some nips and tucks here or there that there was nearly as much cut footage as there clearly was during the ‘Empire Strikes Back’ sessions. Thus, no place for the music in that clip.

Why do they always do this!? WHY!?!

NeverarGreat said:

they shouldn’t put Luke on any posters for this movie.

I agree. I remember I was at a bookstore in January, and he was being plastered all over a bunch of magazine and book covers!