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rockin said:

I remember seeing this when I was really young in the early 90's on TV and VHS, but on DVD and Blu-ray the cut became noticeably shorter. Two scenes that I believe were taken out were the tornado scene and the scene where Superman stops a nuclear missile at the Kremlin. 

I know that there was a fan edit of Superman IV a few years ago, which aimed to restore the whole film rather than just the original international cut. I also know that the Deluxe DVD and Blu-ray have the scenes that were cut in the form of Deleted scenes, but the optical effects for these are incomplete. The laserdisc on the other hand has these intact still with complete optical effects, as does the VHS, which would be two useful sources for the cut scenes, but the laserdisc would be my preference.

The reason for this whole thread is that I think it would be nice to finally have the International Cut of this preserved, even if it is considered one of the worst Superman films - I still get some enjoyment watching it, and I know that there are some others out there who also do as well. 

Listed below are a few of ideas of how to possibly do this:

• Preserve the film using the laserdisc
• Preserve the film using the blu-ray and upscale the scenes from the laserdisc that were cut from the blu-ray
• Preserve the film using the DVD with scenes from the laserdisc.

 

I know this seems quite an ambitious project, especially one for a film which many people dislike, but I'm not sure how people here feel about this. Currently I don't have the means of capturing the laserdisc, and I'm looking into ways to do this. If anyone would like to help then that would be great. Really I just want to see if anyone here has any interest in this project happening or not. 

There's a tiny problem though: The laserdisc is 2:20:1. A full preservation would probably be the best.

^Exactly! You can't let small things like that ruin an experience for you. 

Jonno said:

i tried holding my breath when luke was under the water and i couldnt do it why didnt he die

Hamill actually ruptured a blood vessel in his eye while holding his breath in that scene. That's why there's not too many head-on shots of him in that scene.

Also probably why he's mainly into voice acting these days.

Frankly I'm more worried about the fact that there seem to be a couple of stormtroopers on the Death Star with severe vision problems. Come on, how did they not see Obi-Wan sneaking around!?

Bingowings said:

Another ROTJ taste variation.

What if we don't see Yoda die?

Luke has his conversation with Yoda who isn't very well.

He tells Luke Vader is his father and Luke says sorry for running off.

Luke leaves Yoda alive but unwell.

At the end of the film we see him as a Force ghost so we find out he died later.

It might make his death seem less abrupt and midcoversational.

That's actually how it happened in the comic adaptation. I think his death is fine actually, but I can see the counterargument.

Yeah, I saw that. Someone had to find that clip I posted anyway, right?

There's an insider article titled "100 Things you Didn't Know About Star Wars" which states that the EU explanation was that they were stunned, discovered before the ship took off, and died in the explosion in the infirmary. You're welcome!

Both those shots are in the movie. Caption fail.

That's just a clip from The Magic and the Mystery. Watch the whole thing here:

http://thestarwarstrilogy.com/starwars/post/2013/06/03/Star-Wars-The-Magic-and-the-Mystery

If that's the case, I hate the new show for ruining a powerful moment from the original cartoon by having her survive. Anyway you put it, I just don't like the new show NEARLY as much as the original.

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Yeah, I found that a few weeks after I typed that post. Great site, I'm just hoping that they get some more of the strips on there. Mainly, the final Williamson/Goodwin strip "The Final Trap."

Is this special out there in any decent shape? I only ask because this has the intriguing alternate IMAX version of the opening scene to STAR WARS. There is a YouTube clip, but:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I733E_EtD2M

it looks as  if it were shot off a TV screen of a bad VHS copy. Just curious, did this ever surface?

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Shouldn't it be either "rewritten" or "rewrote"? ;)

In all seriousness, good ideas. You going to pst this anywhere?

Hal 9000 said:

Was the 2003 retconned out of existence? If the two are mutually exclusive, I'll take the Samurai Jack style cartoon any day.

Well, considering how many differences there are (namely Asajj Ventress dying in the original cartoon and being the main villain in the new show.) I think it's safe to say that either this new series either cancels out the old one or is meant to be standalone. 

By the way, Mr. thunderclap, will you be keeping the plot of the pilot, or will you be using a storyline from the TV series?

Post 22. Come on people, let's move!!!

Well, if someone can make anything of this The Clone Wars series, I'll be thankful. The retcon of the 2003 series was one of the worst things to happen in recent Star Wars history. I loved that show.

The comic is pretty bad. They cut a lot of scenes, and the art (for the most part) is pretty bad. They make Spock melt during the death scene!!

I actually have an NTSC dvd, and none of the added footage has the PAL speedup. They authored two different versions, so there's some out there PAL and some NTSC. But they were sourced from PAL tapes, according to the special features.

Duh...duh... WHAT?!

Alright, just making sure nothing bad had happened. Your S2 fan-edit was looking promising, I'd hoped it wasn't retired.

I'm really sorry, I like Ashoka fine as a character, but the early days of her voice acting are kinda, eh?

Booshman? The Fan-Edit Booshman? Where have you been?!

^That looks awesome.

This looks like this is our best source now. Nice job, sir.

I'm sorry. I just get a little too prudish sometimes. Some of this stuff is pretty funny.