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#1209108
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Jay said:

TV’s Frink said:

moviefreakedmind said:

All that is actually not relevant, though, because what is misogynist isn’t being opposed to makeup, it’s believing that sexual harassment is in any way justified because of makeup.

Interviewer: “Do you feel like a serious woman who does not want sexual harassment in the workplace, do you feel like if she wears makeup in the workplace, she is somewhat being hypocritical?”
Jordan Peterson: “Yeah. I do think that.”

That’s misogynist.

This.

Peterson never said sexual harassment was justified by makeup.

He implied it, but ok. And it’s a shitty thing to say regardless.

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#1209044
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

Ryan-SWI said:

moviefreakedmind said:

The idea that women who wear makeup are hypocrites for not wanting to be sexually harassed is misogynist, and it’s pathetic, and it’s disgusting.

Yeah, it is. Nobody should be harassed, sexually or otherwise.

But we don’t live on fantasy island.

Should you walk around Detroit in the middle of the night in a fancy suit carrying a briefcase full of cash? No. Why? You’ll get mugged. Should you get mugged? No. Do you deserve it? No. But you will, and you know why? There are terrible people in the world and no amount of bitching about it and activist movements will stop people from being terrible. Anyone with half a lick of sense knows that doing certain things are going to set off shitty people who want to do shitty things to you.

So yeah, if a woman spends three hours on makeup before work dolling herself up, wears a sexy dress and god knows what, she’s going to get attention. And she knows it.

Does she deserve negative attention? No, nobody does, but she’ll get it, and hopefully the ass-holes perpetrating it get reprimanded. But it won’t stop her getting it again in the future.

Being an asshole is gender-less but you can typically avoid attracting assholes by not walking around Detroit with a briefcase of cash.

Calling people who wear makeup “hypocrites” is a stretch and I don’t think that’s the right word to use, but I get what he’s at least trying to say.

Wow.

You can try and qualify it all you like, but you just made the “she was asking for it” defense of harassment (and assault/rape, by the way, since that’s often where this goes). Disgusting.

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#1209026
Topic
Most Baffling Complaint of a Star Wars Movie
Time

DuracellEnergizer said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Perhaps standard human carbon freezing is done gradually, with proper medical apparati designed specifically for that purpose, to prevent cellular rupturing or whatever.

Perhaps the EU is just dumb and unnecessary. 😛

INB4 Frink’s “Isn’t everything?”

Why would I say that?

I’ve never expressed the viewpoint that everything is dumb and unnecessary.

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#1209021
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

moviefreakedmind said:

All that is actually not relevant, though, because what is misogynist isn’t being opposed to makeup, it’s believing that sexual harassment is in any way justified because of makeup.

Interviewer: “Do you feel like a serious woman who does not want sexual harassment in the workplace, do you feel like if she wears makeup in the workplace, she is somewhat being hypocritical?”
Jordan Peterson: “Yeah. I do think that.”

That’s misogynist.

This.

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#1208896
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

Jay said:

TV’s Frink said:

Jay said:

moviefreakedmind said:

It was an insult towards me actually. All my posts on Peterson have been eloquent and reasonable. I don’t care anymore because you admitted yourself that you’re unwilling to read them, but here’s the part of the VICE interview on makeup. It’s at about the five and a half minute mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsz0DHwzAvc

When asked if he thinks women who want to be taken seriously in the workplace and who wear makeup are being hypocritical, Peterson says yes. I don’t agree with him, but at least he answered directly and didn’t waffle or equivocate, which is what he’s often accused of doing.

But that’s an insane stance. Being direct about is irrelevant IMO.

It’s definitely an extremely conservative viewpoint.

If conservative = misogynist, sure.

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#1208882
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

Jay said:

moviefreakedmind said:

It was an insult towards me actually. All my posts on Peterson have been eloquent and reasonable. I don’t care anymore because you admitted yourself that you’re unwilling to read them, but here’s the part of the VICE interview on makeup. It’s at about the five and a half minute mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsz0DHwzAvc

When asked if he thinks women who want to be taken seriously in the workplace and who wear makeup are being hypocritical, Peterson says yes. I don’t agree with him, but at least he answered directly and didn’t waffle or equivocate, which is what he’s often accused of doing.

But that’s an insane stance. Being direct about is irrelevant IMO.