In case it was not already in this thread:
Carrie Fisher 10 days ago:
+ the interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ObKFqQ0F5Y
As much as I'd like Peter to play Chewie again (if he can physicaly do it), having him "filming" something in may do not mean it's Episode 7; and even if it is for Episode 7 it could also be an unmasked cameo (and that would be sweet from J.J to do that kind of thing for Peter, IMO)
Tobar said:
Frankly I'm extremely skeptical about any kind of news at the moment. It would be far too easy for people to mix up casting news for VII with Rebels.
Not to mention that casting for Episode 7 could also be part of a "database" used for the standalone movies.
Even a Star Wars fan like me just heard about Chewie's death. I don't know how he died in the books. I don't know anything. It's almost like a rumor to me. So of course Chewie is alive for the general public.
The only thing that could make JJ not using Chewie is that Peter is not in good shape these days. So maybe JJ could say something like "Hey, Peter can't do Chewie anymore. Do we really want someone else instead? If the answer is no, then let's do as in the novels. He died long ago."
Zeb's design looks like it could have been influenced by this famous art work:
http://oneonethreeeight.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/ralph-mcquarrie-21.jpg
Same pointy ears, kind of beard. Only more muscles and obviously more cartoonish.
I agree though that this show looks way more disneyish than ralph-mcquarrish for now...
Ah, the old Greedo scene débat! I don't like the Greedo change either, but:
- I did not even notice the change the first time I saw the SE in theater. I guess I was blinking the eyes or thinking about something else.
- Saying that it changes the whole character of Han Solo is just not true. It just changes half a second of screentime and Han Solo have more than enough other scenes to define his character. Don't get me wrong: it looks stupid and it changes a bit the feeling of "dangerousness" of Han Solo but his character is still the same.
- I understand fans who can be pissed by this change (I am), but I don't understand how it became THE main focus of the hate when you have that idious new Jabba scene, the Jedi Rock number, etc... I guess "who shot first?" was just a nice catch phrase that focused all the hate in one single point.
- I think we all agree that the problem is not "who shoot first", the problem is that we don't have the choice of the version.
In the case they really would want to have some Sith in this movie (a thing that I think is not needed, but whatever), my guess is they would think about using Darth Plageis. As a ghost, or he maybe never died as Palpy thought. I think about him simply because he is the only Sith ever mentioned in the movies that we never saw on screen (there's a couple of drawings and even some action figure I guess but I don't know how "canon" they are?). Using him would be a bit unoriginal (and would once again remove any mistery around a SW character) but it would be the only way to tie the sequel to something we already know about the Sith. Of course you can make a new trilogy without anything tied to the past movies. But if you're using some original cast and still using "Episode" in the title, then it needs to have some connection. And if we speak about Sith (IF there are Sith in this movie at all), then Darth Plagueis is the obvious option (I'm not saying the best, only the obvious)
Last rumor: Judi Dench as Mon Mothma
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/65823
I don't think it's true cause: 1, she's not looking the part, IMO. and 2 the original actress is still alive and acting as far as I know.
But I think she could be okay in a SW movie.
I love McDiarmind's Palpatine/Emperor in all movies where he is. He's one of the few actors who actual care to act in the prequels. So, yes, he is in some political boring parts and when he becomes Emperor he plays it "over the top evil" with the "witch voice" he had in ROTJ, turned up to 11. But at least it was acting. He presents a real character to the audience. And it was actualy fun to watch, IMO. The only thing I did not like was seeing him jumping and twisting in the air with a lightsaber. But that was not him. That was Lucas playing with a computer. And the bad make-up too, indeed. But in the case of the make-up I think it's also because they did not played enough with the light during the shooting. It's badly illuminated most of the time. But, yeah, it was a bad make-up anyway...
I don't know 7 people on this picture, is that normal, or am I just getting old?
bkev said:
Hey all,
Wondering if either part of this wonderful set is still available. I definitely don't have the OT and I'd be interested in checking that one out. On Fanedit.info there appear to be RS links, but it doesn't clarify which trilogy it contains.
I have trouble connecting at fanedit.info right now (because of a flash player pop up annoying thing). But if you can: Part 1 is the prequel, part 2 is the OT. and the Dusty versions (I think that's the only version available now, but not sure) are the 4:3 old looking versions (as oppose to the 16:9 clean versions).
That said: all version of those edits will be available at mega.co soon.
darklordoftech said:
Here's why I hate Thrawn: I feel that the Empire should die with Palpatine.
I don't "hate" Thrawn or some of the EU, but YES I totaly agree. I'd prefer Episode 7 to NOT have imperials (as we know them) included in the story. Plus the movie taking place like 30 years later i don't see how there would still be "imperials" around here anyway. Unless the New Republic is a New Empire.
TV's Frink said:
My head hurts just trying to understand this.
Maybe no BD drive at home, but only at work.
Blue milk for me.
Cobra Kai said:
So, allegedly KK asked to delay the release until 2016 but was denied.
I hope this isn't the case, but this is exactly what I was afraid of when Disney purchased LFL. The last thing we need is for Iger to rush the movie into production when the script isn't even finished.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/star-wars-episode-vii-disney-651482
True, but one could say that a little pressure sometimes makes wonder. I mean: without any sexual double meaning... okay, Frink? ;)
ray_afraid said:
About Han... everyone realizes that people change, right? That people grow up and mature and "settle down" and leave their wild pasts behind them? To keep Han the same character we met in Star Wars seems to discredit the characters arc. I don't wanna see a Han who is still an wild, free and reckless 30 years latter. I'm probably alone on that though.
I very much agree. that's why I said in my little story that Han is not a General anymore and he would not be that interested in working for the republic. I would not see him as a bored old man, but someone who left the past behind, is happy with his everyday life but is forced to get back because of Leia.
That said this sort of story arc could also work if Han is now an important member of the republic. He did not fly with the Falcon in years. But somehow IS bored with this safe life. And when he is in the obligation to fight again, he just jump on the occasion.
Ingnoring them, why not, but contradicting them, no they can't. Or else it would be some sort of reboot . And the title EPISODE VII is there to tell us that it's really a sequel trilogy. (well some could say that the PT and the OT already contradict themselves from certain Lucas points of view... but well)
I don't see Lucasfilm completely turn their back on PT fans. I mean, love it or hate it, but the people who love the PT and Clone Wars are a huge part of the audience who kept Star Wars a succesful franchise. Even if I'm an old fan of the OT, I would be a bit sorry for the PT fans if the new movies just completely relate on OT nostalgia without assuming a bit of the PT.
There's only two ways to please everyone (and for 4 billions, I think Disney want to please everyone!):
- Make a sequel trilogy with elements of the OT and the PT (as well as new ideas that please everyone...!)
- Make a sequel trilogy without any element of the OT nor the PT. Make something completely new in the same universe that is so awesome that everyone would be pleased. (but in this case why keeping the word EPISODE in the title? Make it a "Standalone trilogy".)
That's why I think that if (as it seems to be) the OT characters are returning in the sequel trilogy, then some elements of the PT will be there too.
"Pleasing everyone" is not always a good way to make interesting art, but in this case I think it's the option that will be chosen, for Episode VII at least.
I could be wrong though... if they think their new ideas are strong enough, they could just use the OT characters to a minimum and almost make no references to the PT. Time will tell.
Star Wars Episode VII - The Ghost Danger
Star Wars Episode VIII - The Age of the rise of the Force Darkness
Star Wars Episode IX - Live long and Prosper
If anything, I think Han, Luke and Leia should have lived more or less separate lives since the rebellion's complete victory. That does not mean they had no adventures together after JEDI, but at one point in their life, they took separate roads. The audience should feel the same as the characters when they meet again after so much time. (Can you even imagine Luke telling Han: "The last time we met... It's like it was a long time ago, in a galaxy far away!" Okay, a little too on the nose, haha) What I would hate is the story focusing on some of their kids first and get a "oh, shit, here comes the old folks!" scene, where Han, Luke and Leia would appear all together on screen, like that. The characters needs at least a little story arc together.
Hoth-Nudist said:
Im betting on Ford having action scenes in VII. Maybe he'll go back to the smugglers' life? Maybe Solo and Leia arent together with him smuggling again and she with a new life in the jedi order alongside Luke. I dont envision scenes of Solo clad in a heavy sweater, sitting by some fireplace doing a crossword puzzle while Leia knits a quilt.
I can see a scene where Leia, now married with a new republic politician is in the obligation to ask Han to work again with her, because of his knowledge of some underground organization she needs to contact. He's no general anymore. He's just fixing the Falcon all over again when they meet for the first time in years. He's not that interested in the job but since it's Leia asking...
IMDB (for what it worths) still says:
Writers:Michael Arndt (screenplay), George Lucas (characters)
So it's not updated yet with JJ and Kasdan working on the script, all right. But,even before that, IMDB only listed Lucas as characters creator and not story creator.
This probably means nothing. Just something I thought I should mention here.
So Arndt's work is not completely put to trash from what I understand. He just stops working from now on and let the other two finishing the script (?)
Not sure if this is good or bad. It's never a great sign to have a lot of writers. (cough... Indy 4... cough)
The inquisitor looks like a mix between the Utapau guy
And an Old Republic's Sith Warrior.
But, except his little facial tattoos and the fact that he looks like a random villain of the day, he does not make me think of Maul.
I like the concept of an imperial "inquisitor".
NeverarGreat said:
Has everyone forgotten that Yoda clearly stated in ROTJ that Luke was the last of the Jedi? I figured that if he was able to sense Luke on Tatooine and watch him, he would easily have been able to locate any other Jedi who managed to survive the purge. If another Jedi did survive, that makes two Jedi who lied to Luke's face.
Yoda did not sense Luke on Tatooine. He sent Luke on Tatooine.
And not to forget that he never felt that a Sith Lord was running the republic under his nose. That makes Yoda's power to "scan the galaxy" from Dagobah in search for other Jedi more than doubtful. (all this if you acknowledge the prequels existence, of course!)
Ryan McAvoy said:
aren't 'Sith' and 'Dark Jedi' basically the exact same thing???
To me (as I did not read every novels nor comic books) the Sith are like an ancient religion. Once there are no more Sith, you can't have more Sith. Unless someone learns to use the Force from a Sith holocron, directly from a dark lord of the Sith.
So, to me you can have: Sith Lords, or Dark Jedi (a Jedi who turns evil but without the help of a Sith Lord) or a random guy that knows the ways of the Force and do bad things with it without being a Jedi nor a Sith.
So yeah... they are more or less the "same thing" in the sens that they are all people using the Force for doing bad things or for their own interest. But as a matter of plot they are all a bit different.