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Thanks Ringo, but I think I like it better when "STAR-WARS" is centered and smaller, although I agree this design is more "Star Warsish" than mine.

I think It would be difficult (to me) to do a 4:3 version that looks good, and I don't really want to do it anyway.

I understand that to be the "ultimate silent version" it should be in 4:3, with bad sound, and with big text and all.

But there's a lot of scenes in Star Wars that I think would not look that good in 4:3. (a lot of scenes where people are on the opposite side of the picture (they would be cutted in half once in 4:3).

I want this edit to be a nice way to listen to the score, so no audio noise (exept at some points maybe)

As for the text, I suppose it could be a bit bigger, but I'm fed up with my text cards I must say... I almost dream about them at night! lol  All I can do for now is my french cards version and some corrections in the english ones.

Well, I downloaded (and am seeding) the divx version of the "clean" cut, but I think I'm far more interested in the grainy, dirty version...

Thanks for the interest.

I think the dirty version would only be interesting with a correct DVD quality, because a compressed divx + grainy and dirty filters... it should be a mess!

I think it will take time to do all 6 episodes of the dirty version.

First I need to correct some faults on the cards (as well as one or two rough audio cuts maybe), then I need to place the filters, and they takes a long time to render when I compile the final video.

And I still want to do some little more tests. I think this videos are a bit too bright compare to the pictures. Just a bit.

And I'm making my french cards, too.

As for the sound issue...  I don't think that an "old" sound should runs all along the movie. Sometimes it's a pleasure for the eyes to see dirty things (...) but when it comes to the hears it is usualy irritating!

Maybe at some points in the movie, when scenes themselves have an old feeling (romantic music, cantina music). But I still have to search, and find, a good filter for that.

Some work in progress "old style" pictures:

 
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Maybe you'll find these pictures still too clean but when they moves, the grain animation shows a lot more and there is a little "vibration" of the brightness that gives a nice old feeling.

It's difficult to do, because, the new "old picture" version needs to be quite different from the first. But in the meantime it must still be watchable, and not just fun 5 minutes before getting boring. But I'm kind of pleased with this first try.

My seed will be back in 3 hours...

And I'll definitely do an "old picture" version of this edit. I think I'll use a mix between 4 or 5 premiere pro filters and an alpha layer done with the old cinema filter for virtual dub (link given by negative 1 on this topic.). I will not use picture flickering and the filter will be apply on all frames, because the 1/2 frames thing is cool on a 30 seconds clip (it indeed gives an old feeling), but I think it would not works great on a 2 hours lenght (your thoughts about that?)

So, Ripplin, if you feel that some text faults still needs to be changed, you can send them to me. :)

I though about that before doing the cards, but my biggest fear was the viewer not having time enough to read the entire card. AND sometimes we don't know the name of a character before a certain time. So adding the name before it appears in the dialogues could be confusing maybe.

the cards could be resized, and you could also make the text bigger and easier to read..

I made the texts not so big because I thought it was quicker to read, but perhaps I was wrong..

you will have to use the fullscreen versions of all the videos.... because if you try to make your

own, it might not look right..

I understand, but I had to cut each movie in 4 or 5 parts in order to make them easier to play and cut in premiere pro on my PC. So if I redo the edit with others sources I'll need to cut each parts on the exact frame so they will play well on my premiere edit... and I think the only released fullscreen DVD of these movies are the OT original versions (that will not fit in my edit because mine are the 2004 DVD SE versions) am I right?

 the amount of f/x can be adjusted.

Right, if I ever make a "dusty version" of my edit, I'll try to not put too much of these "big noise white shapes", because they are too caracteristic, they kind of screams "I'm a filter!". But without them and with not too much vertical lines (and maybe with a little photo grain added to the picture) it could works well on a full lenght movie without being boring or irritating.

As for the 4:3 resolution, I did not think about that; I guess it deserves a try, but I don't know... (not to say I would have to redo all my texts cards! NooOOoo, please don't let this appends!)

Yes, nice clip RRS-1980!

If an "old movie" filter exist on Premiere, I'll try to find it.

Thanks ThrowgnCpr!

What other tools are you using RSS-1980?

Is a tempgenc 4 Xpress "old movie" filter ever exist? Can't find one.

Here is a part of an interview with John Williams:

I.
George often talks about his movies as, " silent movies." Obviously they are not "silent movies", but he sees himself as working in the spirit of silent movies. What does that mean to you as a composer?

JW.
When George refers to his movies as "silent movies", I think he is speaking about several aspects of the genre. He writes scripts, and they have dialogue, they have a text, but there is a hurtling forward in the editing and in the conception of the thing that is really cinematic. It is not a literary expression, even though there is a literary aspect to it. And so, when he says "silent film", I think he is referring to a kind of rhythmic and visual energy - so that you could almost remove the text and it would still hurtle forward. It is the kind of rhythmic and kinetic expression that speaks - and that is what music is about really - events in time and events in a certain speed, or lack of speed. So I don't think that George means "silent movie" in terms of the fact that the movie doesn't have sound, but more in terms of the spirit of the action movies of the silent period that didn't depend on a literary text, but action, visual effects and timing, and probably music.

People have observed that even the silent films of the 1920's, the films that we refer to as being silent, were never really silent. An orchestra was always in the pit or an organist or some music from the classical repertoire was being played at the same time as the movie. And that is still really the part of the tradition of what we do. George links strongly with that past. I am very fortunate to work-with a director like that because music is kind of a sensual (or essential?) pulse of what he does Cinematically. It makes my role an important one, or an integral one, to the real spirit and heartbeat of his films.

You'll find the entire interview here:

http://www.musicweb-international.com/f ... rview.html

The DivX torrents for Episode 4-5-6 are now online.

Since I keep my other DVD and divX torrents alive, the speed could be a bit slow.

 I wished my first post in one of your topic was in better circumstances... We all are with you and your family.

Torrents for episode 1-2-3 DivX files are ready: http://82.67.76.95:6969/

They all have the "original brightness" on every player I tried.

I just tried to watch my DVD .vob files on VLC player and the brightness is the original one, not the darker version I see when I play it with, let's say, windows media player or some other players.

I don't know why this appends. On some players it looks "normal", on some other it looks darker.

and by the way, the quick montage made by negative 1 have the original brightness unlike the pictures he post.

I'm kind of lost with this brightness/contrast issue.

But I like both way of watching it, so for me it's no big deal, I just would like to now why there is this change from a player to another.

Thanks for all -1! I'll try this filter one of these days.

For now I'm happy with the clean version, but sure it'll be fun trying to do an old noisy one.

(And this filter will help me for the "Grinhouse Jaws" edit I'm planing to do!)

a lot of the scenes in general look a tad on the dark side and fairly grey.

You are right about that, once compiled by DVD lab pro the picture looked more contrasted in the final result than in my original .mp2, I still don't know why. But I found that not bad at all. And I felt it was good for the mood of this version.

My divX version will have the original brightness though.

Thanks for the quick review, the screenshots and making DivX negative 1!

I'll try to do DivX for both episode this week end.

also, i know the stories, but it can get confusing when more than

   one person is having a dialogue, and you don't know who said what..

Yes, it was quite difficult to do... I tried to make it as clear as I can. I sometimes even added the name of a character inside the setences (so we understand it is not him who speaks!).

Did you fix the awful Lucas dialogue between padme and anakin ?

Yes.

did you take out Jar Jar?

He don't speak "Gungan" anymore, he actualy help Qui-Gonn and the queen.

And he's not the clumsy clown fo the story anymore. But my Goal was to stay as close as I can of the story.

So Jar Jar is still here, but not that much.

another thing, why didn't you use some 'old movie' filters for it,

scratches, grain, dirt, and noise???????????????

Off course I thought about that... but I did not really  feel the need.

It's my first fan edit and I wanted to make it nice looking first. Like a modern silent movie.

And frankly I did not not found good filters to do the thing!

I will see if I could do DivX versions this week end.

TMBTM = The Man Behind The Mask

I hope that I shall not disappoint you with this edit Ripplin.

The result is very closed to what I have in mind when I started this project.

Thanks for the interest ben_danger and -1.
 

Star Wars The 30’s Serial Edition

Part 1: episode 1-2-3

Part 2: episode 4-5-6
 

Hi, it’s my first post here. I’ve made something that you might be interested in.

It’s a 4h40 long silent Star Wars movie (only Williams score, no voices, no sound effects), black and white, with dialogues cards.
Maybe I should have called this “20’s serial edition”, cause the 30’s were the great debut of sound and color,
I thought 30’s sounds better… anyway…

PM me if you want rapidshare links for DVD part1 and2 (around 40 ziped files for each part)
 

Quality has been hugely improved, compared to the first part DVD released last month on faneditforum.org 
(few cuts were also made here and there)
and, thanks to Ripplin: no more bad french/english translations and horrible grammatical faults in the text cards.
I think you can now watch this without laughing about my poor english (I’m french).
Each episodes are now chapitred.

Even if there are more than 8 hours cutted out of the originals, it’s the same story but tell in a different and very shorter way.
My goal is to give the same old movie feeling to the whole saga that can now be watched as one big movie. 
You’ll find some PT score in OT, and some OT score in PT.

I can’t detail all the cuts, but you don’t have to care if Han shoots first or not anymore:
he does not meet Greedo at all.
There is no opening crawl on part2 cause it’s all one movie and so the crawl is on part1.
But before each episode (that can be watched separatly by the main menu) there is a “Ten years later” type of card,
then a text explaining the events between the episodes (some of these texts are from the original movies text crawls).

No Obi/Ani/Dooku/Yoda fight in EP2.
No Yoda/Sidious fight in EP3. I like this fight, but I needed to cut it (time issue)
The only moment Yoda is holding a saber is at the end of order 66.
 

The only thing that really bother me is that this edit don’t show Vader killing any imps officers.
(I always liked to see the ultimate bad guy killing more imperials than rebels in the OT!
There’s really “still good in him” I suppose!)

I had a very hard time working on the music synch.
I did my best even if some transitions are still a bit rushed. I don’t think I can improve it a lot more.
 

This edit is something I needed to do.
Like… I don’t know, saying goodbye to a world that I really like but that I somehow need to leave.
I don’t say that I’m done with Star Wars, I’m a huge fan and I still have some hope for the live tv-series.
But I had to do this edit first to have a completely free mind on other projects.

Enjoy!