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#1193357
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(Cancelled) Revenge of the Jedi (The Snooker edit)
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Anakin Starkiller said:

I hope that shot with hammerhead isn’t final. It looks like it could be from classic Battlefront. Come on, man, you can do better than this. In regard to the other ending fleet shot, there’s something off about how static the foreground is. Maybe give it some flashing lights or something.

There are ways you can give feedback without sounding like this.

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#1190776
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The Last Jedi: Legendary
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darthrush said:

Only issue with the deleted scene is that IIRC, you can tell that Luke is inside his hut during the daytime and not at night which is the time that his scene telling how he contemplated killing Ben was taking place at.

I thought of this too, it’s far from perfect, but when we cut back to Ach-Tu after Luke’s duel with Kylo, it’s sunset. Then again, with your proposed edit of moving Yoda’s scene to after Kylo declares himself Supreme Leader (which is a terrific idea by the way), the Yoda scene is at nighttime. I’ll have to think about this some more.

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#1190768
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The Last Jedi: Legendary
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The thing I enjoy most about TLJ is just how many ways there are to interpret the decisions of characters and how they interact. TFA and Rogue One felt extremely plot focused and there was a large consensus of what to cut, which boiled down to some jokes and the Rathtar scene, (with the exception of Hal’s excellent Restructured edit, which felt outside the box). With TLJ, there’s a ton going on and tons of ways to completely change entire subplots and characters. It’ll be super interesting to see where edits take this movie.

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#1190229
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The Last Jedi : a Fan Edit <strong>Ideas</strong> thread
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It’s really interesting to see just how much The Last Jedi changed in the editing room, some of the deleted scenes feel like they’re from a different film, many with setups and payoffs purely contained to the deleted scenes themselves (Finn going to “Where he belongs”). Obviously this happens with every movie, but considering how much deleted stuff we’re seeing from TLJ (20 minutes!), as well as the extensive documentary, it’s a super fascinating look into the production of the film, and makes me appreciate the final product even more.

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#1190223
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The Last Jedi : a Fan Edit <strong>Ideas</strong> thread
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ChainsawAsh said:

Because that wasn’t the transition when the scene was still in the movie - it didn’t cut to Leia for one shot, then back. It cut to Leia and then followed the Resistance plot for a bit (with the Finn/Poe jacket scene, then the demotion scene).

Johnson said the Luke scene was a casualty of restructuring that portion of the film in post production - originally there was a lot more cutting back and forth between Ahch-To and the Resistance plotlines, but eventually they decided to stick with each plot for longer stretches of time.

Another example of this is the prison escape and fathier chase - the moment when it pans down to the manhole they escaped from in prison directly to the manhole they emerge from in the fathier stable? Johnson said in the commentary that that was an edit point where they would have transitioned back to Luke and Rey with an optical wipe.

Including a lot of the deleted scenes will require more restructuring than people seem to realize, I think, as several of them seem to have been casualties of reorganizing the footage in editing and won’t fit back into place without some more reshuffling.

I do like your idea of moving the Luke’s Moment scene though, that’s something I might have to play with myself.

Interesting, I have yet to listen to Rian Johnson’s commentary yet, so I’m hearing all of this for the first time now, but it makes sense, and I’m glad we get longer stretches spent with certain characters and subplots before jumping back to others. I agree that the deleted scenes will require some reshuffling, it seems like a lot of the don’t just fill in nicely.

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#1190219
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The Last Jedi : a Fan Edit <strong>Ideas</strong> thread
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One idea I’ve been thinking about for the past few days is to push the “Luke’s Moment” deleted scene all the way to the point where Rey leaves Ach-Tu. I think that a lot of the issue people took with Luke’s characterization in TLJ was due to how bitter and dismissive he seemed. Obviously he ends up being the Luke Skywalker everybody loves, but we never really see that transition take place. He’s constantly bitter for 90 minutes, has the scene with Yoda, and then is suddenly the hero everybody has dreamt of. But if you move him having a moment in his hut to the point where Rey confronts him about how he turned Ben to the dark side, it’s a lot more meaningful.

I think that the intent of the deleted scene was to show his reaction to Han’s death, but it doesn’t come off that way. The sequence of events is “Where’s Han” < Kylo talking to Snoke < Kylo breaking his mask in the elevator < Rey telling Luke he needs to return < Luke Has A Moment. It doesn’t really fit. But if you have that deleted scene right after Luke talks about how he nearly killed Ben Solo, it takes on an entirely new meaning. You’d have to cut his brief fight with Rey, so that he seems much more defeated than furious, as well a few of his earlier lines. Some other cuts would be needed to accommodate for this of course, but I think that it could work.

It would also get rid of cutting to Leia in hyperspace for one shot only, and then immediately back to Rey and Luke, and there seems to be no clear consensus on how to approach this transition. With the change I’m thinking of, the sequence of events would be:
Luke tells Rey the truth and Rey leaves < Finn and Rose in Hyperspace with DJ < Poe finding out about Holdo’s plan < Rey being dropped off at Snoke’s Star Destroyer < Luke has a moment < Rey and Kylo in the elevator < Some antics while sneaking around Snoke’s ship < Luke communicating with Leia via The Force < Poe’s Mutiny. Then everything else is in the same order as the theatrical cut until Kylo declares himself Supreme Leader. After that moment we get Luke and Yoda’s scene. Obviously these are all just ideas floating around my head, and I’m sure once you actually sit down to edit the film, things will be different, but the general idea still stands.

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#1188894
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Idea: Death Star: AOTC &quot;vs&quot; Rogue One
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ChainsawAsh said:

In canon, I don’t think Wookiees were used as slave labor for the first Death Star.

It goes like this:

  1. Geonosians had the design, which they may or may not have created (at the very least they modified it).
  2. The Republic stole the designs during the Battle of Geonosians.
  3. A secret Republic war council authorized building it because they were convinced Count Dooku was building his own with another copy of the designs.
  4. Orson Krennic was assigned to oversee the project (at least eventually).
  5. Krennic knows that they need a Kyber expert to make it work and recruits Galen Erso, his old college buddy. Erso is not told of the nature of the work, just that it’s about providing more efficient energy for the Galaxy.
  6. The Empire happens, and work continues. Geonosians are used as slave labor. They rebel and their world is sterilized in retaliation.
  7. Erso figures out what’s really going on and escapes with his wife and daughter with the help of Saw Gererra.
  8. Work stalls, Tarkin is assigned to oversee the project. Krennic is still in charge of the engineering aspect, Tarkin is basically his supervisor.
  9. Rogue One happens.

I think that’s it, but it’s been a while since I read Catalyst, so I may have gotten a couple things wrong. Might check Wookieepedia later and make some corrections.

Interesting, I haven’t read Catalyst yet, so I wasn’t clear on some of this. Thanks for clearing it up.

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#1185256
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Star Wars: The Last Jedi - The Dark Cut <strong>(SPOILERS)</strong>
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darthrush said:

TK-422 said:

The music works really well! However, it does feel very abrupt. I’d start it right when Rey begs Ben to let the fleet escape.

This would be difficult to do since it would maybe change the timing but I’ll keep this in mind though and see if others feel the same way. I personally like how the track starts as Kylo declares what he truly desires. Maybe just fading it in a tad more? Thanks for the suggestion!

Fading it earlier would work too. I don’t want it to be retimed because the music fits every moment on-screen perfectly.

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#1181863
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(Cancelled) Revenge of the Jedi (The Snooker edit)
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I think retaining Luke and Leia’s connection is really important. It gives Luke one of his best moments in the saga when he freaks out at Vader taunting him. I also don’t really think having Vader be “The other” works. I like Luke being the only one to see good in his father, and if Yoda knows that Vader can be turned halfway through Empire, it loses some of the impact of Luke being on his own.