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KittyKitty sock confirmed!
How does this keep happening?
I don’t remember Chewie having subtitles? I remember Han having them when he spoke Shrywook.
Maybe that’s what I was thinking of…regardless I think that it would actually be funnier for Han to just be making gargling noises with no subtitles, and yet Chewbacca picks up on it anyway.
Really enjoyed the film, I didn’t mind Maul’s cameo, and it serves a purpose since it shows that Qi’ra is a double/triple/quadruple agent serving a higher figure, and that she didn’t just take off with the ship to abandon Han. I do think that the opening text should be condensed to a standard opening crawl, similar to how many edited Rogue One.
Another idea I had would be to cut down the scene where Han gets his name. I didn’t hate him getting the name Solo from an Imperial officer, but I did roll my eyes during the scene, so I think cutting it down to the officer asks for his name, Han smirks, and then the cut to the battle scene. Or, if I ditch the opening crawl idea, cut from Han smirking to the Solo title card.
I also think that the film could benefit from some light (not literally) regrading. A lot of shots looked a bit dull and flat, a bit of tinkering with the contrast could help.
Oh, and get rid of Chewbacca’s subtitles, I never felt like I needed to know what he was saying.
While all of the edits and transitions are done very well, I don’t like cutting out Rose looking at her medallion, I think that should stay.
I’m gonna try making both of those cuts now that you brought them up. Good ideas TK. It’s crazy how such small cuts can elevate pacing and the consistency of a character.
Thanks! There are countless small trims and cuts that can really make a scene so much more impactful in this film. I love a lot of the theatrical release as is, but I think you can shave off a lot of minor moments to speed things up and cut down that ridiculous runtime.
I really like that shot, I think as RogueLeader suggested, speeding it up to standard and cutting out before the crossfade wouldn’t be a bad idea and just may work (emphasis on 'may’). I love the act of throwing away the lightsaber, but I hate how casual it was in the theatrical film, hopefully something different can be pulled off.
Something I’ve been meaning to bring up for a while but never got around to are these two very minor problems in the film that I haven’t seen mentioned anywhere: 1) A quick cutaway to the Dreadnought captain after Poe yells “Bring the bombs” 2) When Poe asks Leia for permission to “Hop in an X-Wing and blow something up”.
The first change would be to remove that quick 6-second cutaway to the First Order Star Destroyer crew after Poe blows up the last turret. The only dialogue in that moment inside the Dreadnought is an officer saying, “Sir, Resistance bombers approaching!”, and Captain Kennedy responding with “Of course they are”. It’s redundant information. We just heard Poe whoop in delight and say that bombers are coming, why would someone say the same thing a second later? It’s extraneous, and cutting from Poe saying “Bring the bombs” to the Resistance theme accompanied by the slow pan-up of the bomber fleet is just great.
The second one has bothered me on rewatch. The First Order has tracked the Resistance through lightspeed, and Snoke’s personal Star Destroyer has too. Finn says something to tune of “If we jump through lightspeed to escape, they’ll just be right behind us. They’ve got us”. Poe looks down for a beat, says “Not yet they don’t” and then the Resistance theme starts up, and we see him rush out of frame. The problem is that in the theatrical cut, he stops to have his “Permission to…” joke. Sure, it’s kind of funny, and I laughed at it, but it doesn’t jive with Poe’s character at all. The film repeatedly shows and tells us that he’s a hotshot that doesn’t listen to rules. In fact the scene immediately before this one tells us that same thing. So for him to stop and ask Leia a question just seems kind of silly. If you cut this joke out, the shot order is now “We’re trapped”>”Not yet they don’t”>Poe leaves the frame>BB-8 rushes to catch up with Poe>X-Wing Pilots running to the hangar bay.
Sorry for the long post, however in every edit I’ve seen of the film thus far, both of these lines are included and it’s been bothering me. They’re very minor changes so it would be easy to pull off.
EDIT: That looks pretty fantastic Snooker, a bit more tweaking and it’ll be flawless.
I’m not defending TPM, I just think it’s dumb that people criticize that movie because Anakin was taken back to Naboo, and then turn around and say that the kids in TLJ should’ve gone with Finn, Rose, and an untrustworthy space pirate as they infilitrate Snoke’s flagship.
One suggestion I’d make would be to remove the first time Finn and Rose talk at the same time. It’s filler information, and it makes for a funnier joke when Finn looks taken aback when they speak in unison for the second time (or the first time with this cut).
Politics isn’t bad, but what bugs me is that they have time to push animal rights by freeing the slave animals, but not anti-slavery as they take zero time to try saving the slave kids.
Didn’t everyone criticize the part in TPM when a 9-year old slave kid got sent into a dangerous action setpiece with the rest of the main characters?
I agree that it was really overt on Canto Bight, but trying to say that Star Wars is politics free is just goofy.
Political commentary in Star Wars is nothing new, it’s always been there.
Really, really good.
For inserting Paige, in the deleted scene where her gun jams, there’s a few reaction shots of just her in the cockpit. I think that that could be a replacement for cutaways to X-Wing cockpits. Instead of cutting to a no-name extra saying “We got company” or some such, it could be a cutaway to Paige in the cockpit.
I was thinking more after the ground staff had been evacuated, but any idea goes for how they actually destroy the station. I was just throwing around ideas 😕
Ohhhhh, that makes more sense.
I really like your idea about different cells of the Rebellion, perhaps the cell we see in your edit could be the infamous “Outer Rim Allies” from TLJ? I also agree that a few more ships in the fleet shots wouldn’t hurt.
But I think The Executor crashing into Endor seems a bit odd. The Rebels destroy the Empire’s largest ship…so that it can kill their friends when it crashes? I dunno, that just seems kind of off. That being said, every other idea you’ve suggested has been fantastic, and I’m really excited to see the full film.
The biggest continuity error between TFA and TLJ is the placement of Kylo’s scar. In TFA it’s across his nose, and in TLJ it’s in a totally different spot. It would take some serious FX work for a small error, but the scar is only present in a few shots in TFA. I’d be intersted in seeing how this is tackled.
A minor continuity error I noticed is when Poe is speaking with Holdo for the first time. She says “It’s commander right? Wasn’t it Leia’s last official act of command to demote you? For your Dreadnought plan?”, but that wasn’t Leia’s last official act of command. Right before the bridge explodes she orders The Raddus to stay out of range of the First Order’s barrage and to have maximum rear shields or something like that. I know it could be explained that Holdo just forgot, but the order that’s keeping everyone alive seems like a pretty massive point to forget.
I think you can leave most of Canto Bight intact (with some small trims here and there), and even leave Rose and Finn in the stable discovering the Fathiers and the kids, however right after all of the creatures escape and rush out of the stable, and one of the kid whoops, cut to Finn and Rose running through the fields on the Fathier. You still keep most everything from the original cut in, just remove all of the excessive chase. This can also work geographically, since a stable and prison being next to an upper class casino doesn’t make much sense.
Great work! U-Wings seem to have a blue engine glow from what I’ve seen.
Anakin Starkiller said:
I hope that shot with hammerhead isn’t final. It looks like it could be from classic Battlefront. Come on, man, you can do better than this. In regard to the other ending fleet shot, there’s something off about how static the foreground is. Maybe give it some flashing lights or something.
There are ways you can give feedback without sounding like this.
That’s some great work! I’m useless to you for any technical knowledge, just keep doing what you’re doing.
Thanks! It always bothers me just a tad when we see new ships introduced in material that takes place before the OT. But now with the hammerhead, and any potential U-Wings, things are looking great!
Hal 9000 said:
Also, re: the ending. I don’t really see any merit in swapping the order of scenes, especially since up to this point every film has had a final scene without any (English) dialogue.
Every film has also had an ending involving the main characters 😉
Leia only has 15 seconds of screen time in Rogue One, she’s no main character.
Any thoughts on having U-Wings in the Rebel fleet?