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Post: #249766
Topic: Info: Auto-correction from SE colours to GOUT colours (lots of information)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/249766/action/topic#249766
Time: 5-Oct-2006 1:25 PM

First of all, thanks for bringing a new approach to this topic, and for sharing some great looking screencaps.

I have said in other threads that I didn't think a convincing color image could be recovered from the '04 DVDs, as the colors were individually tweaked. You've got around this problem by effectively combining the '04 luma with the GOUT chroma (as I understand it), an idea which has been mooted but never achieved, AFAIK.

However this still leaves the other main problem with the '04 image, inherent in the luma information, which is that the contrast has been jacked up to the point where considerable detail is lost in the dark areas. Your initial brightness/contrast pass has actually done a great job of retrieving some of this information (e.g. the first two shots you posted), although the contrast still seems higher in all your corrected shots than the GOUT.

Unfortunately, it seems some detail is still missing (e.g. shot 21), although this could be a by-product of your retention of keyed blacks from the '04. Is there any way you could post one or two examples without this addition? I feel as if a little extra noise is worth it for extra detail.

The other way to proceed with this type of project is to use the best available '97 SE source, which I believe are the TB & GKAR releases, and which apparently have similar sharpness to the '04 discs without the color "correction."

Once again, thanks, and a hearty welcome!

MODS: Could this thread be moved to the SW Preservation and Fan Edits topic?

Post: #249626
Topic: The Black Dahila
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/249626/action/topic#249626
Time: 4-Oct-2006 8:56 PM

Chinatown > L.A. Confidential > The Black Dahlia

Post: #249571
Topic: Re-name "General Star Wars Discussion" as "TheForce.net"
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/249571/action/topic#249571
Time: 4-Oct-2006 5:06 PM

Nuff said.

Post: #249570
Topic: Where does your screen name come from?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/249570/action/topic#249570
Time: 4-Oct-2006 5:03 PM

See, I knew this would be interesting. I was thinking of auximenes as a fan of pre-Socratic philosophy. Mavimao is a great combo.

Post: #249566
Topic: The Black Dahila
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/249566/action/topic#249566
Time: 4-Oct-2006 4:52 PM

Chinatown is how it's supposed to be done.

Post: #249553
Topic: I've given this a lot of thought, and I've decided this makes no sense. (Qui-Gon and Anakin's ghosts.)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/249553/action/topic#249553
Time: 4-Oct-2006 4:08 PM

I rest my case.

Post: #249506
Topic: I've given this a lot of thought, and I've decided this makes no sense. (Qui-Gon and Anakin's ghosts.)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/249506/action/topic#249506
Time: 4-Oct-2006 1:06 PM

There is an "official" explanation, but I refuse to repeat it. Just make something up for yourself, it'll probably make more sense.

Post: #249497
Topic: Interesting tidbit about who shot first
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/249497/action/topic#249497
Time: 4-Oct-2006 12:24 PM

Oh dear.

Post: #249494
Topic: <strong>The "EditDroid" Trilogy DVD Info and Feedback Thread</strong> (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/249494/action/topic#249494
Time: 4-Oct-2006 12:12 PM

...apart from the fact that the extra pixels used for anamorphic are horizontal rows, which are interpolated after the A/D conversion.

Post: #249328
Topic: Info: Best OUT materials at Lucasfilm?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/249328/action/topic#249328
Time: 3-Oct-2006 8:55 PM

Sorry, I meant when Harris rejected the dye-transfer print as a restoration source.

Post: #249088
Topic: POLL: Who Leaked the XØ Timecode to the public?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/249088/action/topic#249088
Time: 2-Oct-2006 4:14 PM

boris, I didn't vote, as I didn't see the option I wanted in the poll. Please add "your mama."

Post: #249086
Topic: For Those who bought the Sept. 12th Release, Thoughts so far?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/249086/action/topic#249086
Time: 2-Oct-2006 4:00 PM

In the corner.

Post: #249061
Topic: Info: Best OUT materials at Lucasfilm?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/249061/action/topic#249061
Time: 2-Oct-2006 11:54 AM

Yes, I think Harris was referring to a film restoration when he said that.

Post: #249049
Topic: Info: What Has Changed? the 2006 OT DVD release...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/249049/action/topic#249049
Time: 2-Oct-2006 10:06 AM

Thanks for the feedback. If anyone knows of any changes that aren't on the DVD, please post them here.

Post: #248393
Topic: Info: What Has Changed? the 2006 OT DVD release...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248393/action/topic#248393
Time: 27-Sep-2006 7:54 PM

Well, there's a lot of text, so I didn't want to make an unreadable thread. But they can all be read at starwars.com or on the DVD, and referred to by number (e.g. SW40, ESB77, RJ91 for those above). Suggestions for updates can be posted here.

Post: #248334
Topic: The Hobbit starting in 2007?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248334/action/topic#248334
Time: 27-Sep-2006 1:40 PM

Thanks for that link, Lord Phillock.

Doesn't look like it will be coming along soon, at least not with Jackson's involvement. I'm not into the 2 film idea - that seems like milking it. You need Jackson, Shore, McKellen. Holm is optional.

Post: #248330
Topic: The Black Dahila
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248330/action/topic#248330
Time: 27-Sep-2006 1:13 PM

Should've been. Wasn't.

BTW, it's "Dahlia."

Post: #248329
Topic: Where does your screen name come from?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248329/action/topic#248329
Time: 27-Sep-2006 1:12 PM

Mine is fairly obvious, as are some others like Bossk or Luke Skywalker, but there are a bunch of interesting names out there, as well as some that are probably less obvious than they sound. So if you can explain your choice of screen name, please do.

P.S. Even if it's obvious to you, there are people (like me) who have little knowledge of EU names, for example.

Post: #248328
Topic: What's Original '77 and What's Not?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248328/action/topic#248328
Time: 27-Sep-2006 12:59 PM

That audio is from LD.

Post: #248327
Topic: Info: What Has Changed? the 2006 OT DVD release...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248327/action/topic#248327
Time: 27-Sep-2006 12:58 PM

Right, it's not meant to be a rival to WookieeGroomer's excellent set, which everyone should get - it's mesmerising. This disc just focuses on the changes. Even when I move up to clips, it will just be loops of the shots in question.

Post: #248320
Topic: Info: What Has Changed? the 2006 OT DVD release...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248320/action/topic#248320
Time: 27-Sep-2006 12:37 PM — Edited 4-Jul-2020 11:34 AM

Just for fun, I have made a DVD version of the three “What Has Changed?” features from starwars.com, comparing the theatrical (well, GOUT) editions with the 2004 editions. The layout has been redesigned thus:

This is just a prototype, really - I haven’t had time to put too much work into it. Eventually, I’d like to expand it to include audio mixes (v2.0) and, ultimately, use video clips instead of stills (v3.0). However, I won’t have time for any of these in the near future.

The first thing I’d like to do is reword the descriptions, which are currently rather SE friendly, to make them more neutral (v1.1). I would welcome suggestions on the wording.

If anyone would like a free copy of the complete v1.0, you can download it here (less than 50 MB, zipped).

Post: #248314
Topic: What's Original '77 and What's Not?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248314/action/topic#248314
Time: 27-Sep-2006 12:21 PM

Even if they looked exactly the same, not having to flip/exchange discs is enough to justify the price of the set.

Post: #248313
Topic: This person added Qui-Gon into the end of Return of the Jedi as a force ghost.
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248313/action/topic#248313
Time: 27-Sep-2006 12:19 PM

What zombie84 said.

Post: #248312
Topic: Limited Edition DVDs not coming from LD masters?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248312/action/topic#248312
Time: 27-Sep-2006 12:17 PM

JED, the GOUT (new DVD set) definitely comes from the same master tapes used to create the Definitive Collection & "Faces" Laserdiscs. All except the opening crawl, which was added from another source.

ESBHG, although Laserdiscs are analogue, the Laserdisc master tapes are digital. The Laserdisc format was not able to realize all the detail available on the tapes; DVD comes closer.

There is plenty more info on both these topics on these forums.

Post: #248310
Topic: Info: Best OUT materials at Lucasfilm?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248310/action/topic#248310
Time: 27-Sep-2006 12:09 PM

You would think that would be less of a problem with scanning. Still, there's more than one IP, possibly useful separation masters, and the majority of the movie already in hi-res digital data.