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#171838
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The legendary "Starkiller Ranch" Thread
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Haven't had time to catch up with this thread since before the holidays. Just read all that I missed. First reaction: love 90% of MTH's script editing. Hope that it will be technically possible to realise most of his ideas.

Now to the clips: just watched 'em both - no sync problems. As has been stated previously, it is unfair to analyse rough cuts too much. Therefore I'll try to keep my comments to content, rather than other editing issues.

For my money, the CC cut is the better of these two, as they are now. Why? Because of the removal of Jar-Jar's antics in Watto's store, which add nothing to the scene. Once Qui-Gon leaves, we want to get to Anakin/Padme's interaction. In this vein, I'd suggest also cutting Qui-Gon's line "Don't touch anything", as this is only an intro to Jar-Jar's (now cut) antics. So the cut would follow Watto's line "We'll find what you need".

Also, the opening scene of the MTH cut, on board the ship, doesn't work as it is now: a) Qui-Gon's reference to "spaceports like this" doesn't follow from the announcement of "Tatooine"; b) Panaka's line/Qui-Gon's reaction just don't seem to fit here. I understand the desire to remove the Panaka scene outside the ship and that has potential. The problem with the CC cut in that respect is that Qui-Gon's reaction is totally inappropriate to Padme arriving to join them, without the idea having been mentioned before.

One technical note (oops, cheat) is that I don't think it will be possible to get acceptably high video quality with the amount of zoom required to crop the characters out of the city shot.

Anyway, it's great to actually see some of the ideas and I think there are constructive possibilities to posting clips.
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#171724
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***The Official ANGRYSVN STAR WARS*** Release Thread
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Covers look great Rik - glad I could be of (very small) help with this set.
Don't want to be picky, but I think the reissue cover should have the "FOX video" logo on the back instead of the "CBS-FOX" logo, as this is the traditional way to tell the original LDs apart.
Nice menus too - I love the way you've preserved the feel of the LD artwork throughout.
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#169218
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~French Coffret Trilogie LD to DVD transfer~ (Released)
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Yes, it does seem unlikely. But then if those burn marks are only on PAL because a different negative/print was used for the NTSC telecine, then those video drop-out lookalike marks would have to be on the original negative, which would put them on every OT version (which they aren't), or on an interpositive/intergnegative that was used for the NTSC telecine and then burned before making the PAL telecine which seems more unlikely. Does anyone know the generational history of the THX transfers?
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#163266
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The legendary "Starkiller Ranch" Thread
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Yes, I thought of The Chosen One as a good way to focus the beginning of the Saga on Anakin, who will become the central character, as well as more broadly on Qui-Gon's quest and dealings with the council (the Ranch edit) and away from the political maneuverings and rise of Palpatine (the Lucas edit). But then I also didn't like the sound of Episode I: The Chosen One. I just think Fate of the Jedi is too close to Return of the Jedi. Maybe Trooperman has an idea?
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#163178
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The legendary "Starkiller Ranch" Thread
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Quick feedback - will try to get more detailed later. Have to agree with Infodroid that MTH's outline is excellent, and is 90% good to go. A few random notes:

"There's always a bigger fish" - the reason this scene sucks in TPM is not only because the same thing happens twice, but because our heroes escape by blind luck. There is never a real sense of danger and Qui-Gon's reaction makes no sense in the circumstances. However, if it could be suggested that Qui-Gon uses the force to influence the "bigger fish" - his line takes on a whole new complexion.

Order of the coruscant scenes - there are good points supporting alternate choices here. I think the only way to know is to cut them in two or three ways, watch them and then decide.

Nute = megalomaniacal Egyptian conqueror sounds good to me. Love those Passion voices.

Title - agree with InfoDroid that it should have one, but also don't like Fate of the Jedi (sorry MTH, that's about the only thing I didn't like). How about The Chosen One? Maybe not. I know it sounds crazy, but I actually like The Phantom Menace. Just because MagFan and ADM had new titles, doesn't mean you have to. I assume you won't be changing Revenge of the Sith?