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Post: #214296
Topic: Amazon.com ratings crucial to LFL reversal!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/214296/action/topic#214296
Time: 27-May-2006 11:08 PM

I happen to think that making people not buy these could actually be harmful to the future of the OUT. Luckily I also happen to think you have no chance of impacting sales significantly.

Post: #214294
Topic: Natalie Portman VS. Harrison Ford!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/214294/action/topic#214294
Time: 27-May-2006 11:05 PM

Sure looks like him to me.

Post: #214289
Topic: 1977-->1993: What?!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/214289/action/topic#214289
Time: 27-May-2006 10:54 PM

I'm sure they'll use the Empire of Dreams crawl. As has been discussed extensively elsewhere, any one of three mixes could be called "theatrical", so it's impossible to satisfy everyone on that without using all three, which won't happen. The '85 mix would be the best compromise, IMHO, but it'll probably be the '93 mix that is used.

Post: #214284
Topic: We have to buy this set atleast to preserve it for the next generation of fans
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/214284/action/topic#214284
Time: 27-May-2006 10:45 PM

I agree. If everyone who's ever posted here boycotts this release, it won't make a difference either way. Both the reasons for buying these discs are good enough alone:
1) best ever home video version of the OUT;
2) what CO said.
I have yet to hear a good reason not to get them.

Post: #213951
Topic: Lucasfilm lunch hour
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/213951/action/topic#213951
Time: 26-May-2006 6:44 PM

Thanks Shim, IJ, ADM, skye, Scruffy & Ripplin for your positive responses to this thread.

Obiwampa: I don't think you'll get a unified response on the questions of buy vs. boycott or sending the SE discs back - everyone has different opinions. I honestly don't think the September release can be changed at this point, anyway. But I still think we should look at it as something positive. I used to think the OUT might never be released, and now it will be. I like to think it was due (at least in part) to Jay's excellent petition. The way forward seems to me to be to agree what OUT fans want in the future and make a new petition based on that. If it worked this time, it could work again. Okay, so it might take a few years, but so will the HD disc format war.

Post: #213943
Topic: Time to accept what we are given and be grateful?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/213943/action/topic#213943
Time: 26-May-2006 6:25 PM

I don't agree with the title of this thread, but I do think the official release is worth what I am paying for it ($37 inc. tax & shipping at FYE.com).

Post: #213935
Topic: I just compared my 'Hoosiers' Anamorphic & Non-Anamorphic DVD's
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/213935/action/topic#213935
Time: 26-May-2006 6:14 PM

Originally posted by: Shark2k
THX mentioned that letterbox is better for people with SD televisions. Actually, I said it was better for people with 4:3 TVs, which is not the same thing as SD. In your above post, you are generally confusing SD with 4:3 and HD with 16:9. You are right that eventually HD will become standard, but at that point neither a letterboxed nor an anamorphic SD DVD will exploit the potential of the TV. Which is why I said:
Originally posted by: THX
The anamorphic transfer will only appear sharper to those with 16:9 displays. The saturation and black level have nothing to do with anamorphic vs letterbox, they are to do with the quality of the transfer itself. The fact is that for the vast majority of people (those who have 4:3 TVs), a letterboxed transfer is actually better. For the majority of the rest (those who have sub 50" 16:9 displays) a letterbox transfer is perfectly acceptable (see CO's statements above). For the tiny minority (those who have projectors or huge 16:9 sets), there will be a noticeable difference. Now, any kind of SD DVD (anamorphic or letterbox) isn't going to look good on HD gear. By the time most people switch to 16:9, HD will be in full force, so for an SD release, letterbox seems like an acceptable choice for now.

But should the OUT be fully restored and newly transferred to HD? Yes.

Post: #213925
Topic: Thoughts on the development of the forum
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/213925/action/topic#213925
Time: 26-May-2006 6:01 PM

Given all the hoo-hah about the non-anamorphic DVD release, how about a new petition for a new transfer?

Post: #213887
Topic: Try to take it easy with the Lucas bashing.
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/213887/action/topic#213887
Time: 26-May-2006 4:42 PM

Sure, it's open to interpretation. The way I read the petition, it has - but you wrote it, so I bow to your judgement. Either way, I think a new petition, specifically worded to what is wanted beyond the forthcoming release, would be a good idea.

Post: #213881
Topic: Time to accept what we are given and be grateful?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/213881/action/topic#213881
Time: 26-May-2006 4:01 PM

Originally posted by: Hal 9000
(Correct me if I'm wrong, but can a widescreen TV zoom in enough so there's no black bars on the sides?) Yes, the aspect ratio and size of the image will be exactly the same as if it were an anamorphic disc.Originally posted by: Vigo
...the fact that we PAL users most probably will get an upscaled NTSC master makes it an absolute no-nuyer for me.

I'm pretty sure they'll use the PAL masters used for the PAL THX WS LDs released in Europe.

Post: #213878
Topic: What sends the better message to LFL?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/213878/action/topic#213878
Time: 26-May-2006 3:49 PM

I honestly don't think we can make a significant dent in the sales either way. I'd like to continue the campaign for a full restoration in time for HD release, but I also want to watch the best existing version while I'm waiting - and that's going to be the September edition.

Post: #213874
Topic: Try to take it easy with the Lucas bashing.
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/213874/action/topic#213874
Time: 26-May-2006 3:36 PM

I think it's a glass half empty/half full thing. It seems to me that before the announcement, most people thought that the OUT would never be officially released again. Okay, so the September set isn't all we'd hoped, but it shows that it's not impossible.

So, the original mission of this site has been acheived, and it could now have a new mission: to campaign for a full restoration of the OUT. Show me the petition that asks for that and I'll sign it. Hey - it worked the first time. And now while the issue is still hot, we could get a lot of signatures.

Post: #213844
Topic: Try to take it easy with the Lucas bashing.
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/213844/action/topic#213844
Time: 26-May-2006 2:03 PM

Originally posted by: Davis
Why did everyone love Star Wars when Lucas repeatedly claimed they would NOT be available on DVD, and now AFTER an announcement that it WILL see the light of day again, everyone's through with SW. It's kinda weird. This is a big step in the right direction.

This is exactly what is baffling me.

Post: #213585
Topic: The Official Lucasfilm Response
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/213585/action/topic#213585
Time: 25-May-2006 7:12 PM

Back to the thread title:

We hoped that releasing those “original” movies on a bonus disc would be a way to have some additional fun with the debut of the movies as individual DVDs. We certainly did not want it to become a source of concern or frustration for any of our fans. Read: we are surprised, we honestly thought you guys would be pleased.

The negatives of the movies were permanently altered for the creation of the Special Editions, and existing prints of the first versions are in poor condition. Read: it would cost a lot of money to restore the Original Trilogy properly.

So many fans have requested the original movies, we wanted to find a way to bring them to you. But since these movies do not represent George's artistic vision, we could not put the extraordinary time and resources into this project as we did with the Special Editions. Read: but since these movies do not represent George's artistic vision, we could not put the extraordinary time and resources into this project that we would like to.The 1993 Laserdisc masters represented the best source for providing the original versions as DVD bonus material.

Read: which is the only way we can release them right now as George has not approved a full release.We want you to be aware that we have no plans – now or in the future – to restore the earlier versions.

Read: he will probably never approve a full release.We hope you will understand our decision and, again, want to let you know how much we appreciate your interest and enthusiasm.

Read: we did what we could to give you what you want, honest!

Post: #213579
Topic: The Reason the OOT was released
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/213579/action/topic#213579
Time: 25-May-2006 6:56 PM

Bootlegging is already illegal. This release doesn't change that. This theory was discussed right after the release was announced.

Post: #213563
Topic: The Official Lucasfilm Response
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/213563/action/topic#213563
Time: 25-May-2006 6:21 PM

Good points from TR47 and The Biz.

Originally posted by: The Bizzle
We got this release because Marketing has wanted to release this SO BAD for SO LONG now, and they finally got the go-ahead--but not the finances to do it right. [...] Hale, Ward and Singh I believe would LIKE to have gotten this done right. I agree - see here.

...the video feel is most definitely more pronounced with the 93 lasers, due to the age of the transfer and the video smearing introduced by the noise reduction applied during mastering.

Let's hope it was applied during mastering, rather than during telecine.Empire Strikes Back is probably one of the most beautifully rendered DVD's ever created.

I'm not normally into net slang, but WTF??? Gotta disagree with you here, Biz.

Post: #213554
Topic: Try to take it easy with the Lucas bashing.
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/213554/action/topic#213554
Time: 25-May-2006 5:55 PM

I agree with YIYF on the thread thing. I actually did start one yesterday, but only because I felt that it didn't fit in with the other threads. I can't remember the last time I started a thread before that.

Post: #213534
Topic: I just compared my 'Hoosiers' Anamorphic & Non-Anamorphic DVD's
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/213534/action/topic#213534
Time: 25-May-2006 4:52 PM

Right. Buy now, which in itself will help (and give you the best version there is on DVD), but don't give up the campaign.

Post: #213527
Topic: Original Trilogy DVD FAQ (Unofficial)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/213527/action/topic#213527
Time: 25-May-2006 4:44 PM

This is a pretty decent article.

Post: #213519
Topic: Try to take it easy with the Lucas bashing.
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/213519/action/topic#213519
Time: 25-May-2006 4:24 PM

Not sure who you're referring to Luke. But anyway, I'd like to see us not bashing Lucas or each other too much. It sets a bad example for the sudden influx of new members.

Post: #213476
Topic: I just compared my 'Hoosiers' Anamorphic & Non-Anamorphic DVD's
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/213476/action/topic#213476
Time: 25-May-2006 3:11 PM

Originally posted by: grifter
as you can see the anamorphic transfer has a sharper image the colours are more sturated and the black is really black, not kind of darkgreyish...

The anamorphic transfer will only appear sharper to those with 16:9 displays. The saturation and black level have nothing to do with anamorphic vs letterbox, they are to do with the quality of the transfer itself. The fact is that for the vast majority of people (those who have 4:3 TVs), a letterboxed transfer is actually better. For the majority of the rest (those who have sub 50" 16:9 displays) a letterbox transfer is perfectly acceptable (see CO's statements above). For the tiny minority (those who have projectors or huge 16:9 sets), there will be a noticeable difference. Now, any kind of SD DVD (anamorphic or letterbox) isn't going to look good on HD gear. By the time most people switch to 16:9, HD will be in full force, so for an SD release, letterbox seems like an acceptable choice for now.

But should the OUT be fully restored and newly transferred to HD? Yes.

Post: #213464
Topic: Try to take it easy with the Lucas bashing.
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/213464/action/topic#213464
Time: 25-May-2006 2:55 PM

Thanks, Jay. I totally agree with you.

Post: #213398
Topic: Lucasfilm lunch hour
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/213398/action/topic#213398
Time: 25-May-2006 12:19 PM

Read: he will probably never approve a full release.We hope you will understand our decision and, again, want to let you know how much we appreciate your interest and enthusiasm.

Read: we did what we could to give you what you want, honest!

Post: #213383
Topic: Fans line up outside of Skywalker Ranch in support of new DVD release!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/213383/action/topic#213383
Time: 25-May-2006 11:36 AM

This is sick and inappropriate, IMHO.

Post: #213381
Topic: The Official Lucasfilm Response
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/213381/action/topic#213381
Time: 25-May-2006 11:33 AM

I'd like to thank The Bizzle for trying really hard to be constructive in the face of seemingly overwhelming odds.

In addition, although I'm not sure what planet Iamstillhiro is from, his posts are pretty mild compared to some others who are still around. If there is to be mod intervention in this thread, it should be over the Lucas death fantasies. The whole tone of this site has changed recently, for the worse.