logo Sign In

THX

User Group
Members
Join date
21-Apr-2005
Last activity
11-Dec-2006
Posts
1,263

Post History

Post
#224110
Topic
Episode I: PaulisDead2221's Edit (* unfinished project *)
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/224110/action/topic#224110
Time
Originally posted by: PaulisDead2221
I had an idea about my opening, it's only a tad shoddy and I think everyone can tell just by hearing about it. I could redo it and show the ambassadors coming, Sidious having them killed, cut to the invasion (a real great transition btw), plus shots of the capital being taken, and a line to the Viceroy about the Queen being captured, then show them being taken off to the camps after being asked to sign the treaty, then the Jedi jump out of no where and save everybody, their origin left to the Star Wars extended universe. And trim off any cheesiness along the way. Then we can set up the Jedi, set up the Queen, set up the pilots, get some interaction with the battle droids a little, etc.
This would also work. Why not try it and see which you prefer?
Post
#224098
Topic
Explaining the shoddy OOT treatment in public
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/224098/action/topic#224098
Time
Originally posted by: Vigo
You forget that the 1993 masters were made using now obsolete telecine equipment (a technique to transfer film to analogue video), compared to modern digital film scanners, which yield a much better clarity, contrast and colour rendering than the equipment used in the first half of the nineties. Films are nowadays stored as high resolution digital files on workstations as a standard process, the 1993 master used for the Laserdiscs and sadly for the 2006(!) DVD´s is just an analogue NTSC resolution D1 master tape. Since this tape is more than sufficient for a VHS and laserdisc Transfer (these are also analogue formats, NOT digital), the master will show all its flaws on a modern digital video format like DVD, and introduce new flaws like compression artifatcs which are not present on the Laserdiscs. Bottom line: the master will show all its weaknesses, even on 4:3 TV´s.
The D1 master tapes are digital, not analogue. They have higher color resolution than DVD and equal pixel resolution to DVD. They will reproduce better on a modern digital video format like DVD than they did on VHS or Laserdisc. They will be no more prone to compression artifacts (which are inherent to the DVD format) than any other DVD transfer (in fact, compression artifacts will likely be less than they would be on an anamorphic DVD, which would contain more picture information and thus require more compression).
Post
#224068
Topic
Lucas may have caved, here is a link to Barnes & Noble early review of the O-OT DVD's:
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/224068/action/topic#224068
Time
Here is the full text of the "review" (with variations for each film/DVD in brackets):
Frank Ford, A reviewer, June 25, 2006
The Best DVD
This is a one of a kind, it really is. It has the 2004 DVD release and also the original (1977/1980/1983) theatrical version of ('A New Hope'/'The Empire Strikes Back'/'Return Of The Jedi'). It has been cleaned up and restored, and is in 5.1 surround sound, both versions have this. Even the original. It seems Lucasfilm have changed their mind and cleaned up the originals and gave them the best DVD treatment. Also, there are a few more extra extra's. Each "review" then details the extra extra's [sic] for each of the movies. Here are those details:[SW]: The extra's include a new photo gallery, and a two hour extensive documentary on the original version, clean up footage and new interviews on the original version. Also, a new commentary!
[ESB]:The extra's include a new (and very large) photo gallery, and a one hour (and 34 minutes) documentary on the original version. Also, a new commentary!
[ROTJ]: The extra's include a new photo gallery, and a one hour documentary on the original version. Also, a new commentary.!
Okay, it doesn't take a genius to figure out that it would defeat the object if an anamorphic transfer was released with a (2-hour/1hr34min/1hour) documentary on the same disc as the movie. This is wishful thinking, no more. Why he bothered to make the documentaries different lengths (and ESB's photo gallery very large), I don't know.
Post
#224060
Topic
Episode I: PaulisDead2221's Edit (* unfinished project *)
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/224060/action/topic#224060
Time
Absolutely great! This is the best reworking of the beginning of TPM I've seen (and I've seen a lot). It makes it feel a lot more like SW, being thrown into the action, and having to figure out what's going on as you go, rather than having it laboriously spelled out to you. Only point of contention is the first cut - it seems unnecessary and confusing to show the ambassadors ship, then cut straight to the queen's ship.

As far as the ending goes, I think you have to have the iris wipe into the end credits and go straight into the fanfare at the same time. Can't you do this from the last shot of the funeral without changing the funeral score?
Post
#223884
Topic
BFI preserving OOT!!
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/223884/action/topic#223884
Time
It's great that the BFI are keeping their prints, no doubt in excellent storage conditions. However, although the BFI always tries to get the best print available for their archive, anyone who has seen prints from their archive can tell you they're not always preservation grade (they are often post-release prints). I'd hold out more hope for the Library of Congress copy, which AFAIK is was pristine at the time of archiving (which means faded and discolored now, but not scratched/torn/dirty).
Post
#223451
Topic
Remember when everyone hated Return of the Jedi?
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/223451/action/topic#223451
Time
JediFlyer - sorry if my post was unclear. I was not trying to blame Lawrence Kasdan for the problems of Jedi. I was just throwing in a little historical perspective - I remember that idea being mooted at the time. But like I said, history has shown it was Lucas who made the bad stuff happen. I wish LK had written the PT, but I can understand why he didn't want to.
Post
#223448
Topic
Info Wanted: What is the preservation project closest to the original 1977 release?
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/223448/action/topic#223448
Time
Originally posted by: Vigo
It would be very interesting to gather further information about this, and what the reason is why we got additional music in our sound mix and why it wasn´t included in later english sound mixes. Yes, I'm surprised by this, as I understood that cue was initially intentionally excluded as it was felt to undercut the tension of the scene. Later English mixes were always made from the stereo/surround mixes which would explain its continued absence. Why they returned to the older mixes is another question, as time had obviously been taken to mix a stereo version which incorporated the later "mono mix" changes.Originally posted by: Vigo
Even the 5.1 mix from the 2004 SE keeps all the soundeffects from the mono mix, but the musical cue was removed.
Now that's unusual, I would have expected LFL to standardize the "official" mix for all but dialogue by now.
Post
#223261
Topic
Info Wanted: What is the preservation project closest to the original 1977 release?
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/223261/action/topic#223261
Time
Yes, I thought it was likely the English mono mix was completed first. According to LDDb, the German THX edition is in Dolby Surround, which is potentially more useful than it being in mono. But even if you decoded it to 4 discrete tracks, and found that all the (German) dialogue was in the center channel, you'd have a hard time filling that dialogue back in, as the only available sources of the alternate (English) lines are in mono (i.e. mixed in with everything). Not to mention the fact that the dianoga cue and the Dave Schnuelle quote prove this mix is different from the English mono mix. You could make a mono version of just the non-dialogue parts, but even that would be different from the original mono mix, and the quality change when switching to dialogue would be very audible.
Post
#223232
Topic
Info Wanted: What is the preservation project closest to the original 1977 release?
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/223232/action/topic#223232
Time
Thanks for that, Vigo. Very strange to hear that cue there (not to mention the German dialogue). Okay, so that shows it's not the same as the mono mix (even besides the obvious dialogue difference). Now, thanks to belbucus, we know Burtt continued to change the mix when preparing the foreign releases. The mono was the last to be made, so it would stand to reason that he would use that as the basis for further changes.

However, it's possible (however unlikely) that it was the other way around. Does anyone know the German release date and/or the US mono release date?

It's also possible that this mix, while substantially similar to the mono mix in content, could be in stereo. Unfortunately, the left channel from my cpu got disconnected and it's a nightmare to get to it so I can't tell from the sample. Vigo?