chyron8472 said:
I just volunteered because I'm picky about the DEED descriptions and formatting all looking the same and some people aren't particular about that.
It's appreciated.
You may post when ready.
You're certainly welcome to re-create the experience of a cheap print. There are preservations of all stripes.
I certainly hope that the multiple mixes in lossless audio doesn't fall by the wayside as well; it's one of the biggest draws for me to getting the DE in Blu-ray format! I for one can definitely hear a difference. My favorite of the mixes after hh's (really looking forward to the retooled 5.1 mix!) is the 1985; I know it's more dynamically compressed, but the stereo separation is great and the music sounds fantastic.
I have the 1985 mix in flac format as well.
I had no problems with the US theatrical version at all, but that I had gotten through links on the organ, and have already burned to a disc (and is a favorite). I got the EE via the PM links, and the .rars had no problem combining. I checked the file to make sure it worked, but haven't had the chance to burn a disc of the EE as yet.
I can say there is one place in the film where the EE is a bit better; during the Tower of Set, the choir overdubs for “Las Cantigas De Santa Maria” are much more prominent in the EE, while they are somewhat buried in the stereo and 5.1 mixes for the US theatrical (possibly an unavoidable consequence of using the original stereo source which had no choir).
All the rar files worked for me. More feedback to come.
Because it's a thread about Harmy's Despecialized Edition, not supplements? This is off-topic.
Indeed, the theatrical BD is nothing short of awesome. This would make a great supplement! Here's hoping it shows up soon in the usual places!
Quick question about the Fox version of the film: does it feature the original closing scroll, or the revised version with Mako reciting the text and “…but that is another story” replaced with “…and that story shall also be told?”
I'd be interested in a MM2/RW restoration as well… again, here's hoping the original surround mix could be included!
Happy (belated) birthday, Harmy!
The reel looks fantastic! Like the DE 2.1 of Star Wars, this has a much more film-like appearance and it just feels more natural than either the GOUT or the Blu-rays (alterations aside). Not the most useful observation, I guess, but your efforts are genuinely appreciated.
One of the biggest advantages of this project to me is the PCM Dolby Surround track. While there is no question that modern discrete 5.1/6.1/7.1 formats are technologically superior, they knew what they were doing when they made these surround mixes.
I've waited for this torrent for since I found out about this project and I am very, very, very excited!!!
I will seed this thing until Thulsa Doom raids my apartment with his Vanir.
Excellent, and CONGRATULATIONS!!!
As far as I understand it, all Blu-ray players are capable of playing AVCHD discs. I haven't tried with every brand, but I've played them on quite a few (Samsung, Sony, Oppo, Pioneer, etc.) and they all play them without any problems.
EDIT: No, I'm wrong. It seems there are a few models, at least one Magnavox that I know of, that does not play AVCHDs.
Never mind.
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If there is interest in something similar for the audio side of things, I'll see what I can come up with.
Seconded.
Thirded.
Forced.
Your counting feels very forced.
Fifthed of course !
Sithed
Seventhed all the way!
Ocho-ed.
Nine-ificated.
The non-HiFi linear tracks on VHS tapes were in stereo as well, but very few HiFi machines played or recorded the linear tracks in stereo, instead using the lower quality linear track as a mono backup alternative.
Does anybody have the old Image laserdisc?
Joel, the changes you mention actually irk me no end, but for the added shots of Vader returning to his Star Destroyer, I kind of all lump of them together in discussion as being the “Hyperspace” scene. Call me a nit-picker, but the breaks in pacing and sloppy music editing totally ruins the climax of the film for me.
I also have to say that while I did like the way the Cloud City interiors looked in the Special Edition, when I saw the original again for the first time in a while, I think many of the shots are better composed in the original version. The splashes of color in the revision are often more distracting than they should be in a compositional sense. If the film had been shot with that color scheme in the first place, the component shots wouldn't have been framed or blocked the way they are in the film.
The more explicit Wampa at the beginning is okay… it definitely makes it a lot clearer what's happening in the cave when Luke wakes up, but as others have pointed out, the disorienting footage of the original has a certain terrifying quality that's a bit lost here.
The 2004 revised dialogue between Vader and the Emperor is another area that feels like nails on the chalkboard to me, because it doesn't make any &#$%ing sense. The film had established in the opening crawl that Vader had been obsessively scouring the galaxy looking for Luke, the idea that Palpatine would “reveal” his probable parentage at this point is silly.
Overall, Empire is the least offensive of the Special Editions, but several of the changes are really annoying, and even the ones that could be argued are improvements don't really bring that much to the film. But as with the other Special Editions, I don't find any of the advantages worth the disadvantages.
My take on it, anyway.
The one on TPB currently seems to have no seeders. Which NG(s) was this posted to, if I may ask?
Here's hoping for an upload or torrent soon.
This release is one of the most exciting to me.
If you go to the first page of the post, you'll see all of the current release information.
Crom laughs at your four winds. He laughs from his mountain.
The RCA/Sony 2 CD editions of Star Wars sounds okay. It's a little dynamically compressed, but it's not too bad. The width of the soundfield is different; the original album tracks and the cues that appeared on the Arista box set had more discrete mixing. I used to like the sound on the 2 CD set better, but I'm finding as I get older, I tend to prefer the original mixes, which, while not technically accurate, was what the music was recorded and mixed to sound like.
The sound quality on the 2 CD sets of Empire and Jedi are a completely different story. They're awful, the Arista box set and the original PolyGram CDs had much superior sound.
Jedi sounds particularly bad on the RCA/Sony 2 CD set; it's completely lifeless and muddy. On the other hand, it does contain a lot more of the score than had ever been released.
The box set also had a few alternate takes from what appear on the 2 CD sets, and of course “Lapti Nek” and the album and film versions of “Ewok Celebration” from Jedi, but also the alternate “Leia Breaks the News” and the film version of the Empire end credits (bells are more prominent during Yoda's theme, Yoda's theme does not tail off over the beginning of the Imperial March).
The most confused state of affairs would be Empire, as there are a myriad of versions from the LP, Arista and Sony/RCA editions, many incorporating different takes or mixes. On the other hand, as has been pointed out, ABC and DJ have done most of the gut work already for that score, and their project could serve as a basis for a lossless sync.