Yeah, actually, why did you post that, awesome though it may be?
PS: Got all of the effects shots tonight.
Awesome! So excited! Well I get home from work at 9 tonight, and I don't have to do anything in the morning, so I can spend some of my evening getting the edit all finished, then monday I should have time to finish the disc, get it uploaded my Tuesday/Wednesday, and we're done!
Haha I know, it's just frustrating. I'm really ready to release this, and move on to something else.
I'm getting kind of down to the wire on this guys. I don't think the DVD is going to be ready by Tuesday, but certainly by the end of that week. The XviD might be available on March 1st, it depends when I get the last two shots from Bob and how quickly I can put them in and render the AVI/upload to MU.
So a slight delay, but nothing major. It's ready. Just needs a little TLC to get it good for the eyes of others. I would be shocked if it took longer than the 4th to get out there.
I didn't follow what happened in the last few posts at all.
thats the model you are using for your effects shots, right? It's amazing how different it looks in a photograph!
Hey, this sounds great! Did you work out your MKV issues? I figured out how to do that the other day using an AVISYNTH script and VirtualDubMod. Want me to send you that info?
Nice try!
Actually, Rogue-theX made a funny little easter egg video that I'm hiding on the DVD somewhere...
Again, I discuss this a bit in my commentary, but Luke is too often told what to do throughout all three movies. Removing the force ghosts means that, once Yoda dies, he's essntially on his own. There's no dialogue about this, but hopefully that feeling is conveyed. It's just him now. The last of the Jedi. And he has nobody to help him.
Just got some of the shots from Bob last night. Awesome sauce. They look great. He's got two more to finish and then the movie is ready.
I should be able to finish up the bonus features over the next two days. March 1st is looking good.
Exactly right, we now get to see Luke work it out on his own.
He's actually the one that saw a preivew of the edit, but the ending wasn't done when he saw it so he didn't know what had been changed. He liked the preview alot, and that was with no ending, crappy audio cuts, no new crawl and no Death Star shots.
EDIT: Sorry for all my musings today. As I studied screenwriting, I get pretty into all that structure/storytelling stuff. I know it isn't particularly on topic, but to be honest I don't really have any updates for you. Bob and i have been talking back and forth about the new shots, and I'm finishing up my bonus features. The bit at the end of releasing a fanedit is the worst, because you're ready to just get it out there, but can't yet haha.
Which I tried to do as much as possible. Obviously Lando doesn't need much more than to be excited his ass didn't get fried when the Death Star blew up, but seeing Han and Leia happily kiss, without jealousy or confusion, and then seeing Luke burning his fathers body, cementing the storyline of bringing "balance to the force," should be a bit more involving than Care Bear Patty-Cake. I hope, anyway.
I had an amusing exchange with a friend yesterday when I told him about this edit. it went like this (warning, foul language):
friend: You changed the ending?
spence: Yep.
friend: Did you put Sebastian Shaw back in?
spence: Nope.
friend: What?!
spence: I didn't put anyone in. There's no force ghosts.
friend: ...Fuck you.
spence: Wait, what? You're that mad about that?
friend: No, that was a "that's awesome" fuck you.
spence: Oh...thanks.
Yeah, I hate that death for Obi-Wan and Yoda (and Vader, who deserves to live on least of all) has no finality for them. There's no consequences.
That's a big problem with ROTJ in general. There's very little consequences for any of the actions that are made. When Vader dies, he should die. That his last moment is his redemption makes the story rather beautiful. Instead, he comes back ten minutes later, smiling and happy.
He didn't earn that. His one final act should give him peace in death. So why have him live on? What's the point, since his story arc is complete? Why have any of them come back for that matter? What's accomplished other than an overly happy ending?
Well I say give me symbolism and emotion over a happy ending any day. That's where I think I didn't get editing this right previously. The Ewoks aren't the problem. The fact that you laugh when Ewoks get killed is the problem. The fact that the movie ends on a high note, but doesn't really have any weight to it is the problem. You don't need Han or Lando to die to make the movie effective. You need to be worried that they will die, and then it is even more effective. You need to get involved. You need to care. And you need to come away affected by the story.
EDIT: Wow, I didn't realize how fired up I get about this stuff! This is why I love movies.
There's actually something rather brilliant there that I think George did: He made it understandable why Anakin distrusts the Jedi. Though they represent all that is good in the galaxy, they scheme and plot, bicker, become angry, sad, and emotionally involved. All the things they aren't supposed to do. This is why the force needed to be balanced. This is also why the Jedi didn't really understand what balancing the force really meant. It meant, basically, that there needed to be a blank slate so they can start over.
Vader cleansed the galaxy of the Jedi and defeated the only Sith, removing himself as the only remaining Sith in the process. So in the end, we're left with one genuinely good soul, one man that can uphold everything the Jedi are meant to uphold: Luke Skywalker. And the Force is balanced.
Lucas told that very successfully, and to me that is why the prequels will never be a failure in my eyes. Failure at certain things? Absolutely. But a complete waste? Far from it.
I was about to pop you one, son. :)
Yeah, .info should be where you'll find it. I'll share the links on tehparadox.com too probably. I don't do newsgroups, and bit torrent takes too long.
They're going to be MU links as that's the only one I'm a member of.
or pick up some "power converters" if ya know what I mean... ;)
haha no, it just came up in other threads, I promise!
I tried doing a not so bold trim edit of this, but it didn't satisfy me in the end. I say it in my commentary a little, bit this is a nut I've been trying to crack pretty much since I started fanediting. I don't know too many editors who have tried drastically different things on the same movie three times, so you can see how desperate I was to get it right. The fact that I'm satisfied with this edit is particularly exciting to me, and I've got the quality on it at the highest level I'm capable of.
This is as close as I can get to the version of Jedi that i always wanted the original to be. Tastes are different, and again I said in my commentary that Star Wars is interesting because it means different things to different people, so one persons "perfect version" can never apply to everyone. Still, I hope you all enjoy it, whether it's as a definitive version or a fun alternate.
Yeah, I think that's an interesting theory. But to be honest, taking the prequels into account (which not everybody does) Obi-Wan's explanation serves very little purpose. It was really just to bring us as the audience up to speed on what happened, but we already know that from Ep. III.
Plus if he had told Luke this in the first place, would Luke have gone with him? Would he have tried to reason with Vader and be killed, thus ending their last hope at restoring balance? If I were Obi-Wan, I wouldn't have told him till he was ready, and unfortunately he found out from Vader himself long before that time.
I've been discussing this a bit in some other forums, but I like to think that a big part of how Anakin turned out has to be attributed directly to Obi-Wan. to me he is just as responsible for Anakin's turn to the dark side as Padme is (both indirectly and without intention, obviously.) With a stricter master, things would've turned out quite differently, but it was his fate to end up with Obi-Wan, a young and brash Jedi who was not ready for a Padawan. It was also destiny that Obi-Wan was trained by Qui-Gnon, thus promoting his cavalier and sometimes disobedient attitude. I gotta give George credit, he really thought that through, and I can't think it was coincidece that all those pieces fell into play.
Sorry, off topic.
Well it would literally almost be the same. I'd cut Leia and Luke's kiss and Obi-Wan's ghost on Dagobah. That's about it.
haha! Yes please. I like the idea of adding Sam Jackson lines (in that youtube clip, when they go to arrest Palpatine and he says "we should have shotguns for this kind of deal" I laughed for about 20 minutes.) but I think the idea of adding bleeps into his existing lines might be even funnier, if placed well. Or maybe a combination of the two.
QUI-GON : ...my only conclusion can be that it was a Sith Lord.
MACE WINDU : A Sith Lord?!? Motherf-BLEEEP!
for instance could be quite hilarious.