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#1601147
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Unpopular Opinion Thread
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Channel72 said:
But I think Padme’s death doesn’t quite work as an ironic self-fulfilling prophecy, because Padme doesn’t actually die from anything Anakin does to her directly, but rather she dies mysteriously of a broken heart later on. Maybe it would have worked better if Padme actually died from complications during childbirth brought on by injuries she sustained when Anakin force-choked her.

Well, here’s the thing: her heartbreak is due to the fact that she saw what Anakin had become, what he had done and what he intended to do. It’s not something that came out of nowhere, but is the direct product of Anakin’s actions. She died because she couldn’t handle seeing what Anakin did and what he had become. In this sense, I think you can still say that Anakin killed her, and it still works as a self-fulfilling prophecy. If Anakin didn’t turn to the Dark Side and remained loyal to the Jedi and to Padmé, he would not have done all the things that caused Padmé to get depressed, have an heartbreak, and subsequently die. This is, among other things, the explanation given by Lucas himself.

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#1600943
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Unpopular Opinion Thread
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Channel72 said:

Spartacus01 said:

I’m aware of the fact that this is a very unpopular opinion on this forum, so I hope I will not get crucified.
I don’t like the idea of explaining Leia’s memories in Return of the Jedi in a literal way, that is by making Padmé survive to the events of Revenge of the Sith. Force visions are the best way to explain Leia’s memories, especially when you consider that her descriptions in Return of the Jedi are very vague. In fact, Leia herself said that she only remembered vague images, so I don’t get why they couldn’t just be the product of Force visions. After all, in The Empire Strikes Back it was Yoda himself who said that the Force allows you to see “the future, the past, old friends long gone”, so there is no contradiction really. Also, Padmé being alive at the end of Revenge of the Sith and not appearing in A New Hope is super-jarring, especially if you watch the movies in chronological order, and having her death occur between the two trilogies without actually showing it is not a good idea in my opinion.

I won’t crucify you - but… I think it’s obvious that a “Force vision” wasn’t the original intent of the person who wrote Leia’s dialogue in Return of the Jedi. Clearly, they meant to communicate to the audience that Leia/Luke’s mother was alive when Leia was a young child. The Prequels changed this for no real narrative benefit. They didn’t even use Padme’s death for some compelling narrative purpose - like for example, having Padme’s death push Anakin over the edge and fall to the Dark Side. Instead, it was only the fear of Padme potentially dying that pushed Anakin over the edge. Padme didn’t even need to actually die, yet for some reason Lucas made her die anyway, despite the cost of violating continuity with ROTJ.

Overall, it’s not such a big deal. Attempting to explain the discrepancy with a “Force vision” is fine - and certainly not the worst attempt at damage control from fans - but it’s still just fan damage control after an obvious (and pointless) retcon.

I always viewed Padmé’s death as a self-fulfilling prophecy. Anakin acted upon his fear of losing her, and this is what caused her death in the first place. In this sense, I always thought it was a compelling death. Also, I am of the opinion that Leia’s mother being alive when she was still a little child was never a good idea to begin with, so I’m more than happy that the Prequels retconned it.

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#1600881
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Unpopular Opinion Thread
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I’m aware of the fact that this is a very unpopular opinion on this forum, so I hope I will not get crucified.
I don’t like the idea of explaining Leia’s memories in Return of the Jedi in a literal way, that is by making Padmé survive to the events of Revenge of the Sith. Force visions are the best way to explain Leia’s memories, especially when you consider that her descriptions in Return of the Jedi are very vague. In fact, Leia herself said that she only remembered vague images, so I don’t get why they couldn’t just be the product of Force visions. After all, in The Empire Strikes Back it was Yoda himself who said that the Force allows you to see “the future, the past, old friends long gone”, so there is no contradiction really. Also, Padmé being alive at the end of Revenge of the Sith and not appearing in A New Hope is super-jarring, especially if you watch the movies in chronological order, and having her death occur between the two trilogies without actually showing it is not a good idea in my opinion.

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#1600684
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UFO's & other anomalies ... do you believe?
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Here there is an excellent video that offers a more than convincing natural explanation for the famous “UFO Battle of Nuremberg of 1561”, which many ufologists and supporters of the Ancient Astronaut Theory claim to be evidence of the presence of extraterrestrial spaceships in Earth’s skies in ancient times. While I’m not opposed to the idea that extraterrestrial spacecraft might have been observed in ancient times, during the Middle Ages, or the Renaissance, I’ve always been very skeptical about this particular case. The notion of a space battle involving hundreds of alien ships occurring during that specific historical period seems highly improbable to me. As I mentioned in my last post in this thread, I support the hypothesis that the extinction of the dinosaurs might have been caused by an ancient war between two extraterrestrial civilizations, which took place in low Earth orbit and the upper atmosphere. However, if this hypothesis is correct, such a war would have occurred 65 million years ago, so it makes more sense to assume that any trace of that ancient conflict would have been erased over the course of millions of years. On the other hand, a war of that kind happening in Earth’s upper atmosphere just a few centuries ago would likely have left many more traces that we should still be able to detect today. The fact that we were not able to detect any trace of the alleged “Nuremberg space battle” suggests that the event observed in Nuremberg had — indeed — nothing to do with a space battle in the first place. And since the explanation offered in this video makes way more sense to me, I’m more than happy to share it. Enjoy!

https://youtu.be/_-7W9mZGFQo?si=1UDuFzTVmSWEHkLf

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#1599632
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What Do YOU Think Star Wars Should Do Next?
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I’m an Expanded Universe fan as well, and I’m always in contact with the Expanded Universe community. I can tell you, from personal experience, that most EU fans don’t like the idea of EU characters being adapted into the current Canon timeline, regardless of whether they are adapted faithfully or not. The majority of EU fans love characters like Mara Jade, Thrawn and Revan precisely for the environment that surrounds them, because it’s the universe they exist within that makes them what they are. Which means that it makes no sense to adapt them to another universe, because they are actually not the same characters that EU fans use to love. The majority of EU fans don’t want Canon stories with EU characters arbitrarily inserted in them, they want the actual EU timeline to be continued through the publication of new stories, new books, comics and video games that are set specifically in the EU timeline itself. Having two separate but equally valid timelines is not confusing, and the material that belongs to the EU timeline can still have the Legends banner on it in order to avoid confusion. Disney is perfectly capable of managing two different timelines, and yet they decide to keep the EU as dead. If they really want to do something for the EU fanbase, then they should authorize the publication of new stories set during the Dawn of the Jedi era, the New Sith Wars era and the Legacy era. Furthermore, they should make a public statement announcing that TCW is not part of the EU timeline, because the show is technically part of both timelines, even though the majority of EU fans completely disregard it in the context of the EU, since it totally contradicts the Clone Wars Multimedia Project and the timeline of the Clone Wars that was already fully established before 2008, with all the books, comics and video games that used to be part of it.

I’m also a Prequel Trilogy fan, and I can tell you that not all Prequel Trilogy fans use to love TCW. Yes, the majority of Prequel fans love the show, but those who love the show don’t necessarily constitute the entirety of the Prequel fandom. Your propositions for Prequel fans are pretty valid and I don’t want to criticize them, I just want to make it clear that not all Prequel fans actually care about a Clone Wars continuation. Something that all Prequel fans (regardless of their opinions on TCW) might appreciate, though, is a Special Edition of the Prequel Trilogy that tries to improve the way the CGI looks and inserts some of the deleted scenes.

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#1598795
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What do you think of The Prequel Trilogy? A general discussion.
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Even though I generally don’t agree with the criticisms that some of you give to the Prequels, I agree with this specific point. Anakin killing younglings is not a good idea, and it shouldn’t have been done. It is one of those things that make some people say that he was never a good person to begin with and never deserved redemption in the first place. Which is understandable. Understandable but not good, indeed, since we are supposed to believe that there is still good in him, which is not very believable after you have seen him killing Innocent children with cold blood.

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#1598053
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Unpopular Opinion Thread
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Leia is a very annoying character in A New Hope. She improves in the next two movies, but she is very annoying in the first one. I couldn’t stand her at all when I watched the movie for the first time, and I still can’t stand her now. Say everything you want about Prequel Anakin, but at least he had his reasons to be whiny and angry. Leia from A New Hope is arrogant and whiny just for the sake of it.

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#1596928
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What do you HATE about the EU?
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  1. I don’t like the concept of Palpatine coming back from the dead. In fact, I prefer to retcon Dark Empire by saying that the Emperor from the comics is just a wild, crazy clone, and not the real Emperor.
  2. I don’t like some of the weirdest books from the 90s, like the Callista Trilogy and The Crystal Star.
  3. I don’t like the fact that Vitiate comes back so many times. He should have been killed for good by the Hero of Tython, and that’s it.
  4. They should have avoided creating so many stories about the Rebels stealing the Death Star plans. Rogue One did it way better in my opinion: we only have one story and there is no confusion about how the Rebellion stole those plans.
  5. Everything post-NJO is just stupid.
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#1596560
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Le Country thread (read description)
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I love Russia and Germany. And I swear, this has nothing to do with me being a Marxist-Leninist, I simply love the history and culture of those countries. I also love the history and culture of my own country: Italy. 2500 years of history, a rich culture, we are responsible for a lot of the things that exist in modern European and Western civilization, and great food! Besides, I live in the city where pizza was invented!

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#1596556
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The <strong>Unpopular Expanded Universe Opinions</strong> Thread
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JadedSkywalker said:

I actually like Matt Lanter Anakin more than Hayden, but I appreciate what Hayden did on the Disney shows.

I do like the Republic Comics those were before Filoni Wars. I also much prefer Ventress in the EU over Filoni, and I like the Micro Series and the Obsession comic. I liked the Battle of Jabiim and how it tied into Luke’s story later in the other comics. I like the character of Asharad Hett who went on to become Darth Drayt, I liked the Aurra Sing books. Those are all non canon to Disney Star Wars.

You want an unpopular opinion I hated Dark Disciple and how it comes off like a YA romance novel. I actually like Son of Dathmomir even if most of the retcons Filoni made to Maul’s backstory i dislike.

I may have disliked the Legacy books but I liked the Legacy comics the first one with Cade, though Legacy II was kind of meh, though a Solo without force powers has some merit.

I, too, dislike the post-NJO/Legacy books while simultaneously liking the Legacy comics. But even though I like the Legacy comics infinitely more than the Legacy books, I still don’t consider them Canon, because I don’t like the concept of the Sith returning after Episode VI in general, since I am one of those people who actually likes the idea of the Chosen One Prophecy and the idea of the Sith being destroyed once and for all by Anakin.

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#1596553
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The <strong>Unpopular Expanded Universe Opinions</strong> Thread
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JadedSkywalker said:

I’m not having an existential crisis, but I was drawn into the middle of this, and I didn’t want to be, how can I make that clear? Should I take it to private messages I guess I should and not derail thread further.

Not my fault. He provoked me, and I responded. But yes, I too agree that we should return to discuss about the Expanded Universe.

Here’s an unpopular opinion: the Clone Wars comics from Dark Horse and the Clone Wars books that were published by Del Rey between 2002 and 2005 are far better than the 2008 Clone Wars show ever was. They feel much more in line with the Prequel films and the war is told in a more realistic way. And yes, I know that being in line with the Prequel films is not considered a compliment around here, but I like the Prequels and I like consistency, so to me it is a compliment.

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#1596483
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The <strong>Unpopular Expanded Universe Opinions</strong> Thread
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BedeHistory731 said:

Stardust1138 was a bit of a windbag and didn’t believe in economy of words, as well as having questionable taste in Star Wars video essays (nothing Fandom Menace-y, just very much against the grain here).

However, they were very much pressured out by both the sock hive mind and others. That’s not the right way to handle things on a forum, as Stardust wasn’t breaking any rules or being exceptionally awful to people.

Hell, I remember when oojason (when he was a mod) banned Chainsawash for criticizing this site and its management on the 4Kxx boards. That’s a dick move if ever there was one.

Do you know what’s the funniest thing? Oojason is the creator of these accounts.

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#1596473
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The <strong>Unpopular Expanded Universe Opinions</strong> Thread
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Channel72 said:

I have no idea what’s going on.

Out of curiosity, how do you all know there are multiple sock puppet accounts posting here? I mean, the person accused of using sock puppet accounts is someone that has created some genuinely interesting, well researched, high-quality threads. I agree their recent post attacking Spartacus01 is just… bizarre - not quite sure what to make of that.

Anyway, I’m just curious what the evidence is, and the history behind all this, since this seems to be a well known thing around here.

Yes, his articles about George Lucas and his historical revisionism are well done and well researched, but it doesn’t mean that he didn’t create sock accounts. The fact that these are sock accounts that were created and are managed by the same person is demonstrated by the fact that all these accounts have a way of writing, discussing and linking articles that is absolutely identical to each other, not to mention that they all have the same opinions about everything.

Also, I would like to point out that I am not the first person he has targeted for not agreeing with his opinions and his obsession of bashing George Lucas at any cost. Other members of the forum received the same treatment: they didn’t agree with his opinions, so he created several sock accounts to surround them in various threads, make them feel isolated and push them away from the forum. An example of this is the user Stardust1138. I talked with him in private several times and he was a very nice guy, but he committed the crime of being a George Lucas fan who didn’t agree with the guy’s opinions about George Lucas, the Prequels, and Lucas’ historical revisionism. So he was surrounded in various threads by his sock accounts, accused of being a troll, and then pushed out of the forum.

He tried to do the same thing with me too, in fact he accused me of being a troll in the discussions we had in private (the same private discussions in which he openly accused me of racism), and I have screenshots of these discussions that can demonstrate it. He always uses the same tactics. The difference between me and Stardust1138 is that I’m not fearful and I’m a hotheaded person. So, if he thinks he’s going to push me away from the forum with these tricks he’s completely wrong, because he’s not going to win this time.

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#1596375
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The <strong>Unpopular Expanded Universe Opinions</strong> Thread
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JadedSkywalker said:

I did like the New Jedi Knights series but to be honest it’s a junior novel series and I haven’t read them since the last volume was published by the Science Fiction Book Club, I have the hardback for.

That was why it was so disastrous to change Jacen’s character so much. Unlike others I never liked Caedus, I hated him.

I agreed with everything Han said about his burning the Wookiee homeworld and how he wasn’t his son.

I hate what they did with Jacen too. He shouldn’t have fallen to the Dark Side, that’s completely unrealistic for him. Troy Denning just didn’t understand his character. In fact, in my personal head-canon the Star Wars universe ends with The Unifying Force, which means that Jacen never falls. The NJO feels like the natural ending point of the post-ROTJ era to me. And if not, then there’s still the Young Jedi Knights series, which can be a good epilogue too, indeed.

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#1596364
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The <strong>Unpopular Expanded Universe Opinions</strong> Thread
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theprequelsrule said:

BedeHistory731 said:

Spartacus01 said:

Sideburns of BoShek said:

Shit, you think people are going to take your posts or advice on here seriously after you telling a black member on here that:

First, that’s not a black person, that’s just you with another of your sock accounts, and stop pretending otherwise, because the whole forum has realized that it’s just you talking with yourself at this point.

Exactly. This is ridiculous that the moderators have allowed this sock organization to keep circulating.

Increasingly I have begun to think that everything except the preservation and fan-edit sections of the site should be deleted. This place is mostly a graveyard…especially if all the sock accounts get removed.

I disagree. In my opinion, a lot of people try not to write on the other sections of the forum precisely because they don’t want to be bullied by the guy and surrounded by all the sock accounts. For example, I’m in contact with one of the members of the forum (whose name I’ll not reveal), who openly confessed to me that he doesn’t write here anymore because he doesn’t want to be involved with the guy. Once you remove the guy from the equation, a lot of people might want to return to write on the other sections of the forum too.

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#1595379
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The <strong>Unpopular Expanded Universe Opinions</strong> Thread
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Sideburns of BoShek said:

Shit, you think people are going to take your posts or advice on here seriously after you telling a black member on here that:

First, that’s not a black person, that’s just you with another of your sock accounts, and stop pretending otherwise, because the whole forum has realized that it’s just you talking with yourself at this point. Second, I’m a Communist, so good luck with finding racism in my ideas, and if you are illiterate and are incapable of understanding what I wrote in the posts you have quoted, that’s your problem, not mine. Third, I’m partially Latin American (my name is literally Luis), so good luck with trying to accuse me of racism again. Fourth, you have no right to publish private conversations in public spaces. Fifth, you are the only one who is having a racist behavior here, because you are pretending to be black when you are not. Stop creating sock accounts and tormenting the entire forum by creating entire threads where you just talk with yourself, we are sick of you.

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#1595258
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The <strong>Unpopular Expanded Universe Opinions</strong> Thread
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JadedSkywalker said:

Is it unpopular to pretty much hate everything that happened after Vision of the Future. I like Luke and Mara settling down together maybe they have one or more children based on Vision of the Future, I even like Ben. But all the grimdark stuff from the Vong, to killing Anakin Solo, making Jacen Hayden Skywalker and killing him, and killing Mara I despise.

I think that, even though you dislike the New Jedi Order series and the Vong War, you might still like the Young Jedi Knights series. It’s the series that immediately proceeds the NJO, and tells the adventures of young Jacen and Jaina when they were still young teenagers, before the Yuuzhan Vong invaded the Galaxy. There is no foreshadowing of the future Vong War, since the series was written before the NJO, the Force powers are not over the top, and Luke is portrayed as a wise Jedi master. I think that it might be a nice epilogue if you don’t want to accept the NJO.

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#1594144
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If the Star Wars prequels were never made, which actor you would have imagined as the Pre-Prequels Anakin Skywalker?
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Sideburns of BoShek said:

You may have misunderstood the thread, or the history of the pre-PT era? Someone who could play a compelling 20-40 year old across 3 films. Not someone who struggled in the role of a 20-23 year old, and did not convince many fans his character would grow into the Darth Vader we knew in the OT. (That is not all on Hayden: the PT scripts, green screens, and the direction also failed him and other actors, and Hayden’s done good work in other roles since.)

I understand what you are trying to say, but DarthStarkiller1234 didn’t say that we have to be bound to the speculations about the Prequel era that existed before the Prequels, he only asked us to choose an actor to play the role of Anakin.

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#1594142
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Unpopular Opinion Thread
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JadedSkywalker said:

I hate Star Wars becoming the Saga of Darth Vader rather than the Adventures of Luke Skywalker, I hate Luke being supplanted and replaced by Vader becoming the lead character. We are supposed to root for a wife killer and child murderer is that it?

Lucas totally lost his sense on the prequel, virgin birth, chosen one prophecy, rules on attachment, midichlorians, Whills, how can people take any of that at face value.

He destroyed Star Wars there was nothing left for Disney to destroy.

I understand where you are coming from, but you also need to be realistic. Sure, you can criticize the way Anakin was portrayed in the Prequels all you want, you can say that you don’t manage to empathize with him, you can even say that you would have liked him to be more similar to how he was portrayed in The Clone Wars (for example). All of that is totally legit. But regardless of the way Anakin would have been portrayed, he would have still fallen to the Dark Side and would have still turned into Darth Vader, which means that he would have still ended up doing stuff that we all consider to be morally reprehensible. If a character is intentionally set up to become a monster due to the choices he himself made, you can’t expect to empathize 100% with him. And besides, making Anakin the protagonist of the Saga does not automatically put Luke in the background, because it’s clear to everyone that Luke is a better person than Anakin and didn’t make his mistakes and bad choices. A character does not have to be the absolute focus of the Saga to be your favorite character, nor to be a better person than the actual protagonist of the Saga. Lucas said that Anakin is supposed to be viewed as the protagonist of the Saga, but he didn’t say that we have to approve his choices. On the contrary, he always said the exact opposite.