This has been said probably a trillion times on here, but 7 and 8 link together just fine.
some weird non commercial midichlorian movie.
That’s not the sequel trilogy that Lucas pitched. He’s had four entirely separate ideas for STs (that we know about, I wouldn’t be surprised if there were many more we don’t know about), and chronologically, it seems like that’s the second one of the four.
I see Star Wars in general as being a ‘band effort’ rather than the sole vision of one man. Yes, SW is/was Lucas’ creation, but the input of folks like Kurtz, Dykstra, MacQuarrie, Johnston, Burt, Marcia Lucas, Kershner, Kasdan etc etc really helped shape this universe significantly. If anything I see the PT as the equivalent of Mick Jagger reforming the Stones with an all-new lineup. So I don’t buy into the ‘George as canon’ thing at all. A Lucas-ST probably would’ve sucked.
I 100% agree, and that’s probably the best explanation why I prefer the sequels to the prequels. The ST was made by fans, and while the fans have some pretty crazy ideas of what Star Wars is, they have a more holistic view. The prequels were just George Lucas putting in his own contribution, lacking everyone else’s vision which made Star Wars what it is.
The trilogies are supposed to have a consistent cast though
Why
Anakin is the father, isn’t he? I’m so sorry, that baby’s gonna be ugly as hell
This goes in a lot of detail, well put. Also very true Neverar, I always liked the idea of the Rebels outwitting the Empire and sneaking the plans out of their hands instead of brute force ripping them out.
I really hate it when people think the 1980s was the pinnacle of music and that 2010s/2020s music is the nadir of music.
It’s really the opposite. The 80s were probably the worst (modern) decade for music, but the 2010s were probably the best. Because in the mid 2010s, that’s when the mainstream started to fade away and artists which would’ve been stuck underground or with a super niche audience have been popular. In fact, probably because of this, music has definitely gotten smarter and more complex lately. Especially comparing it to the music from my grandparents’ generation, which sounds like it was written by five year olds. Not like that stops them from saying music has gotten dumber.
The only real reason someone can think that is a lack of familiarity. Like, yeah, the industry plants of today are probably worse than the industry plants of the 80s, but nobody on Earth listens to Billie Eilish.
I really like SC38 as a standalone short fan-film.
Completely agree. Sc 38 is alright, it just does not fit at all in the movie. I feel like the hate is overcorrecting for the overdone praise it gets.
What people don’t understand is that everything is temporary. What people think is that the victory of the OT only matters if it lasts forever.
That is true now for blockbusters where coherent … world building isn’t a thing
I mean, not saying that the victory of the OT should or shouldn’t have lasted forever, but the victory of the OT not lasting forever is undeniably far more coherent worldbuilding.
What if…Palpatine kills the kids?
Killing kids in the first place is just an unfortunate consequence of the stupid Anakin being too old thing in the Phantom Menace. Cut that out, and you can cut out the younglings in Episode 2, and then there’s no younglings to be killed in Episode 3.
Every time I see a political compass meme I die of cringe and have to convince God to let me back here
What is a political compass meme?
You’re better off not knowing
Every time I see a political compass meme I die of cringe and have to convince God to let me back here
If Force Sensitivity was a thing, why does Vader say this so casually? Why would he just kind of note “Hmm, the Force is strong with this one” and not flip shit that you just discovered someone with lots of midichlorians?
Checkmate atheists
Also cut out “my” so the viewer doesn’t think Palpatine owns Yoda
Cut right from Han getting frozen in ESB to him being thawed in RotJ, with a black screen until Luke goes to Dagobah.
The Empire Strikes Back. There’s no screwing around, you know exactly what this movie is going to be about. It’s not that I think more interpretive titles or more vague titles are bad, but I just think it’s kind of funny how absolutely straight to the point it is. If you count “Star Wars” instead of “A New Hope”, this is why I’d also say “Star Wars” has the second best title.
and not just that Luke reached out to the only human he knew was nearby.
Well, he is specifically calling out to her.
Remove “Episode I” subtitle from TPM and pretend it was a one-off film from 1999 that was never expanded upon.
I did this unironically when I was 16
The “Pumping a Swing” Order:
1
1 2 1
1 2 3 2 1
1 2 3 4 3 2 1
1 2 3 4 5 4 3 2 1
1 2 3 4 5 6 5 4 3 2 1
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
And so forth
Interesting. Please post the link here. It’s the perfect topic to have such documentation for examination.
It’s… really not worth watching. He put it on OT.com back in, like, March, and the thread’s still up if you wanna see us talking about how awful of a video it is. He keeps posting it everywhere though and keeps getting a similar response, IDK why he’s so attached to it.
I would recommend though that OOJason remove the RocketJump video from this post. Despite the Nerdonymous video “debunking” it being pretty bad, the RocketJump video has some critical errors. Plus, RocketJump’s video really does not argue that Lucas deserves less credit for making the OT, and this post including this video to try to argue that point drags the post down. One bad point is enough to ruin a whole argument.
Also worth mentioning that trying to lessen the credit for George Lucas in the creation of the OT is just not really accurate. The editors deserve a lot of credit and the auteur theory conception of Lucas as the sole visionary behind Star Wars is wrong (as it always seems to be with creatives who try to lessen the contribution of their collaborators). But Lucas still was the director, he still wrote the story, and he was still the leader of the group that made the OT, and he still deserves to be credited as the creator of Star Wars.
If this post is meant to set the record straight, point #3 should be removed. It gives the wrong impression and goes too far in the other direction.
Edit:
Similarly with number 39, it should probably also be removed, or at least very modified. I get the point that’s trying to be made: Lucas isn’t the only one who can claim authorship over ESB and RotJ, and so the “They’re his films” approach to the SEs doesn’t apply here. But it’s something that’s wishy-woshy and close enough to the realm of opinion that I don’t think it should be included. On top of the title being “Who made the Original Trilogy films…?”, that’s way too close to discrediting Lucas for me to be comfortable with.
Maybe it should be refocused to something about how Lucas once said he considered ESB and RotJ to be Kershner and Marquand’s movies, not his movies, but now he’s gone back on that.
He further opined that he felt Star Wars “wasn’t his film” because of all the others’ ideas and skills and talent that went into the movie it was becoming.
Also, I’d really like to see this quote if you know where it came from.
If you kept adding more AotCs, at what point would the discomfort from watching AotC be less of a significant factor than the exhaustion from watching movies for so long?
Why? Knight of Kalee’s explanation works fine and makes more sense. It’s also what I assumed when seeing TRoS.
I don’t know if I posted this on here before, because I had this idea months ago, but I like the idea that Anakin and Padme aren’t, like, soulmates or whatever like the movies imply, but they just kind of have the hots for each other. Their love is “forbidden” because it would be a bad idea if two people from such radically different walks of life got together, it just wouldn’t work out. But they get together one night in a moment of passion, and if you screw with the timeline a little, the reason they stick together is because they accidentally conceived Luke and Leia.
Why not
it doesn’t seem rude
How many legs does a sheep have if you call its tail a leg?