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#1497567
Topic
Help: Looking for Scarface The TV Version (NOT THE HISTORY CHANNEL VERSION)
Time

jakesimp98 said:

PsyKovic said:

jakesimp98 said:

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theres no way that scarface aired on the history channel

Shockingly it did lmfao, I’m just looking for different broadcasts like ABC or somewhere that would’ve aired it with the deleted scenes and hilarious overdubs.

My History Channel recording has those overdubs and alternate takes, idk what you’re talking about it seems like the same version that aired on network TV prior

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#1497390
Topic
Beavis and Butt-Head S03E35 - Incognito (Reconstruction/Restoration)
Time

towne32 said:

SpacemanDoug said:

towne32 said:

SpacemanDoug said:

towne32 said:

TheHutt70 said:

towne32 said:

TheHutt70 said:

Just seeing this thread.
Any updates?
I’ve been wanting to get a comprehensive B&B collection.
I originally just had the King Turd collection… although not V3 that was mentioned above I don’t think… I’m actually not totally sure which I have and it’s not mentioned in the included Word file.
But I also have the DVD rips, Mike Judge Collection (I downloaded these from Amazon with a Paramount+ subscription, Blu Ray rips, etc.

Ok, so edit as I’m typing this.
I just looked it up and there are many more episodes for me to get through Amazon. They have episodes from seasons 4 though 11 using Paramount… I’m acquiring all of these as I type.
First one I got was S04E02 Cow Tipping that is mentioned above.
Definitely much sharper quality than the existing one I had… the Metallica on Beavis’ shirt is much more clear… better colors etc.
Also the file is longer at 11:35 compared to the King Turd copy at 10:49
Although my Amazon (Paramount rip) is only 173 meg compared to the King Turd at 282 meg it is much better.

So has anyone put together a definitive list of all the episodes (I generally follow The TVDB listings)… along with the best current available source?

While I have the full rips of all the DVD’s and BluRays I still have to go through and properly name them and see what to replace with my current King Turd collection.
This is a hard set to put together as some rips/sources have single episodes, double episodes, with/without music videos.

I have put together an excel sheet of all the various best sources. But a lot of the TV captures and tapes used to make King Turd are not publicly available. It’s thousands of files.

But more importantly, the list becomes more obsolete every couple of weeks. We are still in the early stage of paramount uploading the full episodes. We will need to reassess everything when they finally finish, but we have only had a couple dozen episodes released over 5 weeks so far. What they have listed as seasons 9 to 11 are just the Mike Judge Collection DVDs of chopped up episodes.

If you are looking through the DVDs to find episodes that are better than King Turd, I wouldn’t bother. No new DVDs have come out since KT v2. They used the Mike Judge Collection, etc. A few rips have surfaced that can help get rid of logos. But again, we probably need to wait about a year until paramount finishes releasing the whole series.

The Paramount episodes aren’t perfect. Some of the music videos suffer from conversion to progressive scan. Some of the broadcast tapes they’re using have dot crawl analog noise, and so on. But it will give us a lot of material to use for upgrades. It was already looking like we could remove just about every logo, but that should become a whole lot easier in time.

Well, the BluRays are definitely the nicest but only about 15 episodes. Do you know if there are plans for any more BluRay releases?
Does Paramount have a release schedule or is it just a wait and see sort of thing?
Do you happen to have a source for the KingTurd V3 set? I’ve had mine for years so I’m sure it’s version 2.

KT is version 2. The above discussion was about making a v3 someday using these new sources.

Season 8 is on Blu-ray because it was made in 2011, digitally, in HD.

These paramount+ episodes aren’t remastered in the sense that they’re scanning any film in HD. They aren’t even using the master analog tapes, but rather specific broadcast masters. So they’re nowhere near Blu-ray quality, but the benefit is that they include the music videos and scenes that would become censored (depending on which tapes they use!).

Oh, and paramount is a wait and see thing. They release Thursday, early morning, every 2 or 3 weeks. 4 to 9 episodes at a time, so far.

so the episodes that are available already, are there any past edits that still apply?

They’re mostly season 7 episodes, and a couple season 4 and 5 episodes. So far, no, not edited. As I mentioned, Woodshop has the cut parts intact. Late Night with Butt-Head has the Letterman portion intact. But those would have been DVD edits rather than broadcast edits. Off the top of my head, I’m not sure if any they’ve posted so far were censored on their original MTV run.

I’m particularly curious about Comedians if/when it surfaces

Definitely. Comedians is the most famous example, so maybe they’ll pay attention for that one. They are doing some S3 episodes next week, so fingers crossed. So far, they are using broadcast masters (they have the pooled credits from multiple episodes, and you can hear the start of the commercial bumper).

But it’s not clear yet if they’re just pulling whatever they find first, or if they’re paying enough attention to make sure they will be the most unedited versions. Based on what we can see about the episode pairings (the credits, for instance) it isn’t always the first airing they’re using.

it’s even possible some of the first airing masters were altered and that was all they could find, despite still thankfully being unedited

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#1497387
Topic
Beavis and Butt-Head S03E35 - Incognito (Reconstruction/Restoration)
Time

towne32 said:

SpacemanDoug said:

towne32 said:

TheHutt70 said:

towne32 said:

TheHutt70 said:

Just seeing this thread.
Any updates?
I’ve been wanting to get a comprehensive B&B collection.
I originally just had the King Turd collection… although not V3 that was mentioned above I don’t think… I’m actually not totally sure which I have and it’s not mentioned in the included Word file.
But I also have the DVD rips, Mike Judge Collection (I downloaded these from Amazon with a Paramount+ subscription, Blu Ray rips, etc.

Ok, so edit as I’m typing this.
I just looked it up and there are many more episodes for me to get through Amazon. They have episodes from seasons 4 though 11 using Paramount… I’m acquiring all of these as I type.
First one I got was S04E02 Cow Tipping that is mentioned above.
Definitely much sharper quality than the existing one I had… the Metallica on Beavis’ shirt is much more clear… better colors etc.
Also the file is longer at 11:35 compared to the King Turd copy at 10:49
Although my Amazon (Paramount rip) is only 173 meg compared to the King Turd at 282 meg it is much better.

So has anyone put together a definitive list of all the episodes (I generally follow The TVDB listings)… along with the best current available source?

While I have the full rips of all the DVD’s and BluRays I still have to go through and properly name them and see what to replace with my current King Turd collection.
This is a hard set to put together as some rips/sources have single episodes, double episodes, with/without music videos.

I have put together an excel sheet of all the various best sources. But a lot of the TV captures and tapes used to make King Turd are not publicly available. It’s thousands of files.

But more importantly, the list becomes more obsolete every couple of weeks. We are still in the early stage of paramount uploading the full episodes. We will need to reassess everything when they finally finish, but we have only had a couple dozen episodes released over 5 weeks so far. What they have listed as seasons 9 to 11 are just the Mike Judge Collection DVDs of chopped up episodes.

If you are looking through the DVDs to find episodes that are better than King Turd, I wouldn’t bother. No new DVDs have come out since KT v2. They used the Mike Judge Collection, etc. A few rips have surfaced that can help get rid of logos. But again, we probably need to wait about a year until paramount finishes releasing the whole series.

The Paramount episodes aren’t perfect. Some of the music videos suffer from conversion to progressive scan. Some of the broadcast tapes they’re using have dot crawl analog noise, and so on. But it will give us a lot of material to use for upgrades. It was already looking like we could remove just about every logo, but that should become a whole lot easier in time.

Well, the BluRays are definitely the nicest but only about 15 episodes. Do you know if there are plans for any more BluRay releases?
Does Paramount have a release schedule or is it just a wait and see sort of thing?
Do you happen to have a source for the KingTurd V3 set? I’ve had mine for years so I’m sure it’s version 2.

KT is version 2. The above discussion was about making a v3 someday using these new sources.

Season 8 is on Blu-ray because it was made in 2011, digitally, in HD.

These paramount+ episodes aren’t remastered in the sense that they’re scanning any film in HD. They aren’t even using the master analog tapes, but rather specific broadcast masters. So they’re nowhere near Blu-ray quality, but the benefit is that they include the music videos and scenes that would become censored (depending on which tapes they use!).

Oh, and paramount is a wait and see thing. They release Thursday, early morning, every 2 or 3 weeks. 4 to 9 episodes at a time, so far.

so the episodes that are available already, are there any past edits that still apply?

They’re mostly season 7 episodes, and a couple season 4 and 5 episodes. So far, no, not edited. As I mentioned, Woodshop has the cut parts intact. Late Night with Butt-Head has the Letterman portion intact. But those would have been DVD edits rather than broadcast edits. Off the top of my head, I’m not sure if any they’ve posted so far were censored on their original MTV run.

I’m particularly curious about Comedians if/when it surfaces

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#1497373
Topic
Beavis and Butt-Head S03E35 - Incognito (Reconstruction/Restoration)
Time

towne32 said:

TheHutt70 said:

towne32 said:

TheHutt70 said:

Just seeing this thread.
Any updates?
I’ve been wanting to get a comprehensive B&B collection.
I originally just had the King Turd collection… although not V3 that was mentioned above I don’t think… I’m actually not totally sure which I have and it’s not mentioned in the included Word file.
But I also have the DVD rips, Mike Judge Collection (I downloaded these from Amazon with a Paramount+ subscription, Blu Ray rips, etc.

Ok, so edit as I’m typing this.
I just looked it up and there are many more episodes for me to get through Amazon. They have episodes from seasons 4 though 11 using Paramount… I’m acquiring all of these as I type.
First one I got was S04E02 Cow Tipping that is mentioned above.
Definitely much sharper quality than the existing one I had… the Metallica on Beavis’ shirt is much more clear… better colors etc.
Also the file is longer at 11:35 compared to the King Turd copy at 10:49
Although my Amazon (Paramount rip) is only 173 meg compared to the King Turd at 282 meg it is much better.

So has anyone put together a definitive list of all the episodes (I generally follow The TVDB listings)… along with the best current available source?

While I have the full rips of all the DVD’s and BluRays I still have to go through and properly name them and see what to replace with my current King Turd collection.
This is a hard set to put together as some rips/sources have single episodes, double episodes, with/without music videos.

I have put together an excel sheet of all the various best sources. But a lot of the TV captures and tapes used to make King Turd are not publicly available. It’s thousands of files.

But more importantly, the list becomes more obsolete every couple of weeks. We are still in the early stage of paramount uploading the full episodes. We will need to reassess everything when they finally finish, but we have only had a couple dozen episodes released over 5 weeks so far. What they have listed as seasons 9 to 11 are just the Mike Judge Collection DVDs of chopped up episodes.

If you are looking through the DVDs to find episodes that are better than King Turd, I wouldn’t bother. No new DVDs have come out since KT v2. They used the Mike Judge Collection, etc. A few rips have surfaced that can help get rid of logos. But again, we probably need to wait about a year until paramount finishes releasing the whole series.

The Paramount episodes aren’t perfect. Some of the music videos suffer from conversion to progressive scan. Some of the broadcast tapes they’re using have dot crawl analog noise, and so on. But it will give us a lot of material to use for upgrades. It was already looking like we could remove just about every logo, but that should become a whole lot easier in time.

Well, the BluRays are definitely the nicest but only about 15 episodes. Do you know if there are plans for any more BluRay releases?
Does Paramount have a release schedule or is it just a wait and see sort of thing?
Do you happen to have a source for the KingTurd V3 set? I’ve had mine for years so I’m sure it’s version 2.

KT is version 2. The above discussion was about making a v3 someday using these new sources.

Season 8 is on Blu-ray because it was made in 2011, digitally, in HD.

These paramount+ episodes aren’t remastered in the sense that they’re scanning any film in HD. They aren’t even using the master analog tapes, but rather specific broadcast masters. So they’re nowhere near Blu-ray quality, but the benefit is that they include the music videos and scenes that would become censored (depending on which tapes they use!).

Oh, and paramount is a wait and see thing. They release Thursday, early morning, every 2 or 3 weeks. 4 to 9 episodes at a time, so far.

so the episodes that are available already, are there any past edits that still apply?

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#1496824
Topic
Blood Simple - original cut (Released)
Time

blumphf said:

I’m a little late to this discussion but I’ve been looking everywhere trying to find a copy of the original theatrical cut of Blood Simple and have had no luck whatsoever. The best I could find was a copy of the US laserdisc which at least includes all the deleted portions but the Four Tops song is missing.

If anyone here who obtained the original cut reads this and could assist me in getting a copy of it I’d be extremely grateful. I have a lot of rare and oop films I can offer in exchange.

Thanks!

I have a rip of the UK PAL DVD and it has the theatrical cut with the four tops song

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#1496469
Topic
Menace II Society - Criterion Preservation (Released)
Time

AdmiralWasabi10191 said:

Honestly wonder if https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Menace-II-Society-4K-Blu-ray/297989/ https://www.dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=59533#1 leaves out ANYTHING from alleycat custom BD…

The 4K has some changes compared to the old blu-ray director’s cut

It takes out one of the extra scenes and some of the black screens had their lengths adjusted

The color timing is a lot better on the 4K though

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#1496232
Topic
Info & Discussion: Fullscreen Laserdisc / DVD Preservations
Time

AdmiralWasabi10191 said:

MrBrown said:

AdmiralWasabi10191 said:

crissrudd4554 said:

skoal said:

Is the RoboCop 4:3 DVD fully opened-up? Can anyone compare the 4:3 DVD to the Criterion DVD?

There is no Full Frame DVD of RoboCop, not Region 1 at least. The above images I believe are from a TV airing. The Criterion is the closest Open Matte RoboCop there is on DVD.

At least you type RoboCop correctly.
Myself I’m far more interested in open matte versions of movies instead of Pan and Scan bullshite. Interesting for alternatives, of course.

Well, why being so negative on the former poster then? The Criterion is more open matted, compared to any newer 1.85:1 dvd and BD release, due having a 1.66:1 frame, the way it originally was intended.

Wasn’t originally intended for 1.66:1 but maybe that’s for European markets. That, and the LD/DVD is quite old in terms of approval from the film-maker.
I have that DVD but wish Criterion ported over the PCM or whichever audio from the Laserdisc instead of making it lossy. Different aspect ratio but not currently on the rest of the releases. Glad I have the rest of the RoboCop releases I do, including the par most excellent ARROW 4K Limited Edition release (not the dreaded SteelBook). https://www.blu-ray.com/dvd/RoboCop-DVD/3692/ https://www.blu-ray.com/dvd/RoboCop-DVD/7641/ (I have this in a standard case.) https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/RoboCop-Blu-ray/89781/ https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/RoboCop-4K-Blu-ray/307415/
And only keeping the Criterion DVD because of the different aspect ratio which Verhoven approved at the time, video source ported most likely for/from the LD, and the exclusive bonus features not on any other release. Unless DVDCompare is accurate, and doesn’t mention any carry-overs from it on other releases.
Which makes me wonder if anyone has taken any open-matte HD uncensored broadcast, make it 1.66:1 to make the weird Criterion LD/DVD aspect ratio which Verhoven has abandoned in favor of the newer scans (MGM Remastered BD, and the superior ARROW BD/4K compared to the former), and have a customized BD25 or whichever with all the Criterion bonus. Including the audio from the Criterion LD since it would the DTS-HD MA 2.0 from the ARROW BD or 4K. Y’know, similar to what fellow forum user alleycat has done with other Criterion LDs and made custom BDs. BUT, that’s for a different thread altogether.

Would be nice to see a more current, HD quality or even 35mm scan, of the open matte for The Princess Bride. Only release I know of which has it is the old MGM DVD. Could be wrong on that too.
Then there are the movies shot on Super35, and that’s a completely separate list. Most likely belongs in this thread but best be updated on Letterboxd.

Seven Brides for Seven Brothers is an interesting situation. Was shot with two separate cameras, maybe at the same time or one after the other, to have two separate aspect ratios. Interesting case since it’s not open matte or Pan and Scan, just a different ratio. Both are official too. CinemaScope, and “Flat”. https://www.blu-ray.com/dvd/Seven-Brides-for-Seven-Brothers-DVD/26770/ https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Seven-Brides-for-Seven-Brothers-Blu-ray/134406/

Oklahoma did similar though both would be shot one after the other

A Todd-AO version was made for 70mm screenings and then a cinemascope version that played in wide release

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#1494386
Topic
The A-Team Broadcast Restoration (Released)
Time

here’s the info I got regarding the US set:

“Jumpin’ Jack Flash” and “Cheeseburger In Paradise” are missing.

“The Heat Is On” is present, but it’s a cover version. Definitely not Glenn Frey’s original. Don’t know if that’s how it was originally or not.

While B.A. is trying on the clothes it uses the replacement music

And Hannibal’s line in “Range Rider” is fully intact.

As for the teasers, supposedly the reason why they’re missing is because the film elements for them were destroyed in the Universal vault fire

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#1491686
Topic
Beavis and Butt-Head S03E35 - Incognito (Reconstruction/Restoration)
Time

towne32 said:

Fullmetaled said:

towne32 said:

Moiisty said:

towne32 said:

Well Paramount+ went live with their episodes today. The main bad news is that it seems they will be very staggered, with only a few released so far.

The great news is that they are uncensored (see Woodshop), with music videos, intros, and credits more or less intact. A few nitpicks about some of those things, but generally they’ve released some good material. Cow Tipping has never been released on home video, and only low quality versions were available. Quality looks good, with some dust, specs, and small scratches occasionally present from the film.

These seem to come from broadcast masters. In addition to the Woodshop lack of censorship, there is a trace of the commercial bumper left in Cow Tipping.

Does this mean king turd v3 can be improved with P+ episodes?

Absolutely. They’ve already upgraded Cow Tipping, Woodshop, and Buttbutt Hike with the mere 7 episodes they’ve added. Plus Black Hole Sun and possibly some of the other music videos. Now without channel logos.

This is big, and hopefully many more will be added. It could end up being more about how the sources used to make KT (which I do have available) can patch a few spots in P+.

All 200 eps are supposed to be coming out on it soon enough.

Yeah, staggered this summer. The caveat is that I don’t think Paramount has ever said all episodes. >200 has been said, but that already includes some of s8 (there are 222 including S8).

So, there could be some small wiggle room for a few they really don’t want to air. And maybe a few music videos won’t make the cut. But it should be a ton of good content.

It’s also possible some edits would be baked in anyway to whatever masters they’re using because supposedly MTV altered the actual finished masters themselves in some episodes

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#1489702
Topic
Original Jurassic Park Trilogy 35mm Preservation Project
Time

Papai2013 said:

Every single home video version, except the 1994 VHS, has the wrong colour grading. The colours were pushed towards blue and pink, plus desaturated. The greens and yellows, reds were too pale. The original photochemical timing had warm hues - the skin of the actors looked sun-tanned.

When you look at the 1997 VHS, Laserdisc, DVD, BD, 4K, the skin looks pale and pinkish. The yellow-brown-red tone of the film prints is completely gone in the home video versions. The 3D tried to recreate this effect in the Rec 709 colour space, but they went overboard with the reds and oranges, resulting in reddish skies. But, out of all the higher definition versions, my favourite is the 3D, though it’s not accurate.

The 4K looks no different than the pale and dull-looking Blu-ray. It’s like they scanned the negative/interpositive but decided not to work on the colour correction. The greens of the Ford Explorers should be deep green, not light green. The yellows should be stronger to act as a contrast, but it isn’t the case with the 4K. This is why many 4K buyers/reviewers wonder if they just upscaled the 2011 Blu-ray master.

I wouldn’t say the 4K is 100% like the old blu-ray, because at least on the 4K the annoying green tinge is gone, but in other aspects it could be a lot better

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#1489657
Topic
Info: The films of Sergio Leone - The best available versions...
Time

AdmiralWasabi10191 said:

SpacemanDoug said:

The top fan choice for GBU can now be the 4K from Kino Lorber

With the exception of the opening producer credit (altered in 1998 for legal reasons) it is 100% the original US theatrical version, thankfully it also fixes the issue from the 1993 LD where a shot of an exploding wall was missing

Kino went as far as to use a 4K scan of a 1967 print and use the mono track from the laserdisc to restore the audio and missing shots (I’m sure they used a different source for the missing shot though)

Agreed.

A Fistful of Dollars and For a Few Dollars More 4Ks are great too. The included BDs are new, and aren’t the same BDs from 2018, and 2019, respectively.

I do agree for Fistful and Few Dollars More they’re the best but sadly not perfect

For Fistful there are some issues with the audio tracks included and Few Dollars More has not only a horrible sounding mono track but is also missing about two seconds of footage in a couple of scenes, but still they’re the best versions available

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#1489656
Topic
Original Jurassic Park Trilogy 35mm Preservation Project
Time

RU.08 said:

AdmiralWasabi10191 said:

The 4K disc release of Jurassic Park has quite a bit of DNR. Is it from a 3D conversion?

Most likely it would be.

Correction, it is not the same, the color timing is much better than the 3D blu-ray, it doesn’t have the digital alterations the 3D one has, and the 4K has much less DNR than the 3D version

Both are built from the same 4K OCN scan but two completely different masters

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#1486091
Topic
Quantum Leap: Complete Series with ALL of the Original Music Restored Project. (a WIP)
Time

Fullmetaled said:

SpacemanDoug said:

Fullmetaled said:

SpacemanDoug said:

Fullmetaled said:

@SpacemanDoug on the blu ray you mentioned the lee Harvey Oswald ep being uncut is that the same for the evil leader and the trilogy or no?

Lee Harvey Oswald is uncut on the UK BD which I managed to get a rip off, the US BD is two parts

Evil Leaper II and Trilogy: Part II have been in two parts since the old Universal DVDs and all worldwide BDs are that way too

I made reconstructions of both of those episodes using NBC VHS footage and BD footage

So sadly the footage in higher quality is lost then. 😦

For the latter two I mentioned yes

I don’t get how any footage from the original airings can be completely lost. I mean really two episodes how was there that much of a mess up?

My theory is Universal forgot to restore them to their feature length versions for their initial DVD (due to lack of care) and it’s possible (however still up in the air) that the elements for those versions of the episodes were destroyed in the 2008 Universal vault fire