SpacemanDoug

springfeel said:

midnight cowboy was tealed to death, but it actually very close to the og trailer

Here’s an excerpt from Criterion’s booklet regarding their restoration of Midnight Cowboy:

“A 35mm theatrical print made for the 2004 twenty-fifth anniversary of the film – supervised by director John Schlesinger, producer Jerome Hellman, and cinematographer Adam Holender – was referenced for color correction.”

Perene said:

SpacemanDoug said:

Here we go again with the teal and orange accusations. Teal existed in 1985 and the old masters are magenta tinted. People only hate the look of teal and orange because it was so popular in the late 2000s and are used to the old magenta tinted masters and thinking they’re correct.

No one has said this, only that Criterion went full-retard on this 4K remaster. Instead of fine-tuning the picture, it looks like this:

UHD:
https://i.postimg.cc/dQ4pZ5mt/UHD44.jpg

Blu-ray:
https://i.postimg.cc/VLhhD5Vx/UNI1.jpg

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UHD: https://i.slow.pics/Z8kHLrDB.png
Blu-ray: https://i.slow.pics/SxQKLKVf.png

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UHD: https://i.postimg.cc/cx8sY8Mm/UHD-DELES1.jpg
Blu-ray: https://i.postimg.cc/D2Nv8cs0/BD-TEA1.jpg

The only thing you’ve proved here is that Brazil’s 4K color timing has a much more photochemical look to it compared to the old BD master which is another DVD era neutralized master with no care put into the color timing whatsoever. Teal and orange existed in 1985, the BD is far from theatrically accurate.

Here we go again with the teal and orange accusations. Teal existed in 1985 and the old masters are magenta tinted. People only hate the look of teal and orange because it was so popular in the late 2000s and are used to the old magenta tinted masters and thinking they’re correct.

hharlan23 said:

DawnShadow said:

Awesome to hear someone is working on this! If possible, please use the untouched DVD this time 😃 The fact that you didn’t use the untouched Blu-ray for your That 70’s Show restoration is the only thing holding me back from grabbing it 😦

What’s wrong with the Blu-ray versions?

Altered music

TheOGNavi said:

You got all the episodes?

Don’t trust the link the other user posted but yes, I have the episodes

Due to new rules, if you’re new and you ask me for a link in this thread, it will get deleted and I won’t be able to see it. So please understand, I need to be PM’d so it’d be a lot easier for you to get a link.

springfeel said:

SpacemanDoug said:

Dirty Harry is going to have the mono included on the upcoming 4K

fidelity wise it will probably suck compared to VHS/LD.

you don’t really know that, because the LD was an analog track with typical shortcomings (and it very well could’ve used an optical element as base) and this 4K would clearly be from lower generation elements so it would still likely have improvements, Warner would REALLY have to screw up the mastering for it to sound worse than a 42 year old analog laserdisc

kineticsolace said:

I know the original broadcast version of Series 6 finale (eps 21 and 22) was 2 episodes together as a “film”, I should have it recorded on vhs and all intro credits are at front, nothing for second half. The vhs release for season 1 episodes 1-6 (https://buffy.fandom.com/wiki/The_Slayer_Pack) I believe has the 90 minute version with no credits on Harvest episode. I also have this series of PAL release (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Buffy-Vampire-Slayer-Complete-Seasons/dp/B005MX6Y6E)

If you have the uncut version of the season 6 finale that’d be fantastic

Dirty Harry is going to have the mono included on the upcoming 4K

Blodgett_Daniel said:

SpacemanDoug said:

Srivera361 said:

Any info is appreciated

Sent a PM

I’m following up to see if this is still available? It’s been years since the original post.

Yes just PM me your email

Venny said:

SpacemanDoug said:

Certain streaming platforms used the mono mix with the 4K master

Oh which ones?!

when the movie was on Max it was in mono

Certain streaming platforms used the mono mix with the 4K master

cybrcig said:

oh my goshh! were you successful in finding the missing episodes?! i would give my left foot to see those episodes but have no clue where to start to find them and i would owe my life to you if you cld help me

I did find them and I restored altered music to two of them

DJPitaB said:

Also, I noticed that you made no mention of the LOST Pilot episode, which also originally aired as a two-hour “movie” version… Does a proper version of this already exist somewhere in 1080p?

Incorrect actually, the movie version of the pilot never made it to broadcast, it originally aired in two parts and has always been that way since

rickstaman05 said:

Can’t really help you, but a post on Hometheaterforum indicates that there were probably changes. One poster specifically said that on yet another forum (unnamed), Season 1 Episode 17’s song Eyes by Rogue Wave was replaced.

Thought so, I do know the DVD release indicated possible music changes

Anyone have captures of the original NBC broadcasts for the first two seasons of this show? I already have the extended 101 Network captures for seasons 3-5 and was hoping I could get the first two seasons from the NBC run as well. Mostly because I want to make sure there are no music edits on the DVD and BD releases.

Please PM me if you have them.

I’d say your best bet is the broadcast rips already floating around

does anyone else have any VHS sources or anything that definitely has the full scene intact?

I do know one of the UK DVDs has it but it was reportedly dubbed over in certain bits to hide the harsher language and it seems that scene is affected too

The Decimator said:

Bruce Lee’s classic film Enter the Dragon is only available on DVD and Blu-Ray as part of an “extended version”. This version of the movie has different music cues in some scenes and most of the sound effects have been replaced.

The 4K release from last year that Warner Bros. themselves released has the original mono and remix options for both cuts and apparently they tinkered with the remix to more resemble the original

Were you able to restore the infamous whipped cream huffing scene?

towne32 said:

SpacemanDoug said:

towne32 said:

SpacemanDoug said:

One thing I will say is while it’s a shame the episodes aren’t completely uncensored (not Paramount+'s fault), they’re at least a lot better than the bastardized DVD episodes

MTV in general bastardized their catalog considering the state of the original Jackass series on Paramount+

Yeah, we are still discovering changes made to the Mike Judge Collection DVDs even in recent months. Part of it is revisionism, and part of it is going back to lower gen masters for that set (like Citizen Butt-Head, for example came out less censored). But their new releases just grab a random tape for an episode, clearly. Beware of the Butt is fully uncensored, and that tape was pulled from rotation after like two days in 1993.

Just to be clear, though, this project is fully uncensored.

I believe some of the censorships are permanent since apparently some episodes had their actual masters altered

It’s hard to say other than speculation. In some cases, probably. In other cases, like Citizen Butt-Head, clearly the master was not altered.

Doesn’t matter for the new streaming masters though, because those are all from broadcast tapes and not the upstream masters. Which is why we can have things like the Beware of the Butt “F UCKER” scene even though it only aired around twice in May 1993, and always censored after that. Or the voiceover on Give Blood’s credits, which was changed, etc.

I remember reading somewhere that Mike Judge once said he doesn’t even know if the early episodes in some cases even exist in their original form by now

towne32 said:

SpacemanDoug said:

One thing I will say is while it’s a shame the episodes aren’t completely uncensored (not Paramount+'s fault), they’re at least a lot better than the bastardized DVD episodes

MTV in general bastardized their catalog considering the state of the original Jackass series on Paramount+

Yeah, we are still discovering changes made to the Mike Judge Collection DVDs even in recent months. Part of it is revisionism, and part of it is going back to lower gen masters for that set (like Citizen Butt-Head, for example came out less censored). But their new releases just grab a random tape for an episode, clearly. Beware of the Butt is fully uncensored, and that tape was pulled from rotation after like two days in 1993.

Just to be clear, though, this project is fully uncensored.

I believe some of the censorships are permanent since apparently some episodes had their actual masters altered

One thing I will say is while it’s a shame the episodes aren’t completely uncensored (not Paramount+'s fault), they’re at least a lot better than the bastardized DVD episodes

MTV in general bastardized their catalog considering the state of the original Jackass series on Paramount+

Interesting

This looks to be a print of the 1980 special edition as it appears to have the alternate family introduction not in the original version

The original stereo mix of this movie hasn’t been released since the pre-DVD days and apparently the 5.1 track has some changes in it. Namely added music during the after party scene when Lloyd walks Diane home, which originally played silent. It’s possible some other changes occurred but I’m not entirely sure about what they’d be.

If one does have a laserdisc or VHS of this movie, please contact me