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SpacemanDoug

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#1453974
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Info: Mono soundtracks that were butchered with 5.1 remixes in later releases
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cryloh said:

What’s the deal with The Godfather (and Part II) in regards to their theatrical sound mixes? I’ve noticed that my Region 2 Blu-ray of the Coppola Restoration contains the remastered audio track as the only option, but I’ve heard that the Region 1 releases include tracks of the theatrical audio. Any reason why the original audio tracks would be limited to the North America release only? Just curious.

That’s actually a thing I’ve noticed in a lot of instances

US disks would include original mixes as a second option but their European counterparts would exclude them (Chinatown, Duel, The Omen, etc.), even though I’ve also noticed in Australian releases they would reflect the US disks

My guess is because they wanna save room for more foreign dubs because of the amount of different languages in that territory compared to the US and Australia where people primarily speak English

And btw as someone who owns the US disks of The Godfather, the mono tracks are indeed the authentic theatrical mixes and they’re region free so you could just as easily import them

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#1453915
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Beverly Hills, 90210 - with original music (Released)
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Xyberfaust said:

SpacemanDoug said:

Xyberfaust said:

I would love a PM for it, please. Never thought this would happen. Best I ever got were some SOAPNET recordings that were missing footage and didn’t have original music.

the SOAPnet versions are missing some small amounts of footage on occasion yes (mostly regarding all of the feature length episodes) but they do have the original music in full

Thank you. I was looking at my notes for what I have and it was simply the series name and saying it was episodes from SOAPnet, with bold capital letters (as a note to myself) saying they didn’t have the original music.

After reading your comment, I dug out my hard drive, started looking into it, and realized that I was conflating all the episodes from this set I had, consisting of copies from DVD, SOAPnet, FX Network, and a few other TVrips. Most of them lacked the original music, so I made that note to myself basically summing up that it’s pointless because I won’t bother watching the series if they’re not all containing the original televised music.

Good to know those SOAPnet copies have the original music.

SOAPnet and TVtropolis are the best sets of captures with the original music

The FX versions have it too but aren’t very good captures

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#1453792
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Beverly Hills, 90210 - with original music (Released)
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Xyberfaust said:

I would love a PM for it, please. Never thought this would happen. Best I ever got were some SOAPNET recordings that were missing footage and didn’t have original music.

the SOAPnet versions are missing some small amounts of footage on occasion yes (mostly regarding all of the feature length episodes) but they do have the original music in full

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#1453570
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Beverly Hills, 90210 - with original music (Released)
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cornman said:

SpacemanDoug said:

BRCUSA said:

SpacemanDoug said:

PM sent

I gotta say this is undoubtedly the most popular project I’ve ever gotten involved in

HI DOUG,

I WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED IN YOUR DIGITAL SET!

I DO HAVE THE SERIES WITH ORIGINAL MUSIC ON DVD AND EXCELLENT QUALITY, BUT IT DOES HAVE WATERMARKS FROM SOAP.

I WAS ABLE TO USE THE AUDIO AND RECREATE THE PILOT WITH ORIGINAL MUSIC ON FINAL CUT. WHEW LOTS OF TIME! 😃

Sent

Also all of the other feature length episodes split into two parts on SOAPnet have been restored to their original format too (mainly thanks to the official DVDs having them that way minus the song changes)

Could I get a link to this too, please? Thanks!

Sent

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#1453565
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Beverly Hills, 90210 - with original music (Released)
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BRCUSA said:

SpacemanDoug said:

PM sent

I gotta say this is undoubtedly the most popular project I’ve ever gotten involved in

HI DOUG,

I WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED IN YOUR DIGITAL SET!

I DO HAVE THE SERIES WITH ORIGINAL MUSIC ON DVD AND EXCELLENT QUALITY, BUT IT DOES HAVE WATERMARKS FROM SOAP.

I WAS ABLE TO USE THE AUDIO AND RECREATE THE PILOT WITH ORIGINAL MUSIC ON FINAL CUT. WHEW LOTS OF TIME! 😃

Sent

Also all of the other feature length episodes split into two parts on SOAPnet have been restored to their original format too (mainly thanks to the official DVDs having them that way minus the song changes)

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#1452910
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Info Wanted: Mad Max (1979) Original Aussie Mono audio
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red41804 said:

SpacemanDoug said:

red41804 said:

The Mono found on the Kino Blu Ray is again a down mix of 5.1.

No it’s not, I actually have the proof that it’s the legitimate domestic theatrical mix, I can share my video if you want

That fool who made that comparison video (and refuses to take it down despite being proven wrong) didn’t realize he actually used the European mix which used the Australian dub but used several sound effects from the American mix (the American mix in addition to changing the dub also added many sound effects that weren’t in the Australian mix), essentially meaning the European mix is a hybrid between the domestic and American tracks

Does this mono mix have the original SFX?

Yes it does, but the “missing” sound effects that comparison video claims were there originally were part of the European mix (and not the original domestic mix) which was a hybrid between the Aussie and American mixes, I had to track down a 1985 Australian broadcast of the movie to prove this

The European track is not included on the 4K release

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#1452900
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Info Wanted: Mad Max (1979) Original Aussie Mono audio
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AdmiralWasabi10191 said:

SpacemanDoug said:

red41804 said:

The Mono found on the Kino Blu Ray is again a down mix of 5.1.

No it’s not, I actually have the proof that it’s the legitimate domestic theatrical mix, I can share my video if you want

That fool who made that comparison video (and refuses to take it down despite being proven wrong) didn’t realize he actually used the European mix which used the Australian dub but used several sound effects from the American mix (the American mix in addition to changing the dub also added many sound effects that weren’t in the Australian mix), essentially meaning the European mix is a hybrid between the domestic and American tracks

The Australian track is the original audio and the American English is the dub, FYI.

I know, but I’m correcting the guy above who said Kino’s 4K release has the Aussie 5.1 downmix rather than the legitimate Aussie mono track, which it does have the original

It’s the European mix that utilizes the Aussie audio but adds various amounts of the sound effects from the American mix

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#1452534
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Idea & Info: The Exorcist (Original Theatrical Release)
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I actually disagree on the theatrical blu-ray audio being bad, at least based off of what’s on HBO Max (which uses the same master)

To me it’s really good sounding and the “lack of surround” activity is due to it being a lot more faithful to the original mono track and doesn’t have the same gag sound effects as the 1997 DVD. I noticed hiss in it too which almost never happens in remixes of mono tracks and why it sounds so detailed

I compared it with the JP laserdisc mono audio I have and it sounds just as detailed to my ears. I didn’t notice a single instance of new sound effects either, unlike the 1997 and director’s cut mixes

The 1997 DVD however sounds awful, tons of noise reduction and the extra gag sound effects I mentioned, everything in it sounds murky

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#1452320
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Info Wanted: Mad Max (1979) Original Aussie Mono audio
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red41804 said:

The Mono found on the Kino Blu Ray is again a down mix of 5.1.

No it’s not, I actually have the proof that it’s the legitimate domestic theatrical mix, I can share my video if you want

That fool who made that comparison video (and refuses to take it down despite being proven wrong) didn’t realize he actually used the European mix which used the Australian dub but used several sound effects from the American mix (the American mix in addition to changing the dub also added many sound effects that weren’t in the Australian mix), essentially meaning the European mix is a hybrid between the domestic and American tracks

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#1452116
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Info: Films re-released with alterations
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I have yet another Back to the Future change

In part 2 the black screen that originally accompanied the scene when Marty got knocked out, on all post-2010 home video releases (which sadly means the 4K release too) it was shortened, it originally played for a good 5 seconds and the tail end of the music that plays during the next scene has been chopped off too as a direct result
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RyJSwxqiJvw

This is so bizarre considering it was intact on the 2001 DVD

Also on the 2010 blu-ray of the first, the credits were squished by 25% due to a mastering error, this was not an issue on the earlier DVD releases and fortunately was fixed on the 4K master and subsequent blu-ray

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#1448772
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Idea: 'In the Heat of the Night' (tv series) - original aspect ratio preservation
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I saw the Amazon versions and they’re widescreen too, they have the “free with ads” option and I sampled them specifically to check the aspect ratio, however they do at least have the episodes missing on the DVDs

Based on this I’ve concluded the only available HD masters are 16x9