SpacemanDoug

ScottZill said:

Are the cuts on this release different than the ones on the Shout Collector’s Edition?

no they aren’t, they’re both the same, only difference is that the quality on Shout’s release is much better

and the 103 minute version is actually the VHS cut, the actual theatrical version ran 110 minutes and has never seen a home video release

the 117 minute cut was basically the cut that was at the premiere before being re-edited to 110 minutes

My second Dirty Harry audio comparison is up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR0HKFjHeRc

I also decided to compare the audio mixes for Magnum Force
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy7ESA4f0TE

NeonBible said:

SpacemanDoug said:

(everyone sounds like they’re underwater)

😄

Sorry couldn’t help but laugh at that!

yea I’ll admit I did kinda make a joke about it, but really everyone does sound muffled in the remix

I can now add Das Boot onto here

The 5.1 remix created for the director’s cut is vastly inferior to the original stereo mix. The original mix (thankfully included on the blu ray for the theatrical version) was knock your socks off loud and impactful. The 5.1 remix has muted explosions and bad dialogue mixing (everyone sounds like they’re underwater)

restorations of Junkman and Deadline just got shared to MySpleen

does anyone know if the original US DVD releases are edited and if they are how badly they’re edited?

I know that the very first DVD set of The Young Ones had edited episodes, but the 2007 re-release was uncut

I think the first release was called the “every stoopid episode” set and the re-release was “extra stoopid edition”

Though the unique thing is sometimes the first DVD release had extra bits not seen in the TV versions of the episodes, but sadly they were omitted on the re-release due to them wanting to reflect the original BBC broadcast versions

my Terminator comparison is up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kq_T3atwffA

looks like this won’t need to be done because the Arrow blu-ray is including a 2.0, 4.0, and the 5.1 track

Comparison of the Blues Brothers audio mixes is done

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-KinxZSOHY

I hate how Universal tried to integrate the 5.1 remix into the theatrical version, a lot of bits are thrown off as a result

This one may come as a surprise to some of y’all but the home video versions of Vacation actually have an alteration from the original theatrical version. The movie had three scenes with the Ferrari girl driving in her car on the road, with the first and the third of those scenes playing “I’m so Excited” by the Pointer Sisters and the second one playing “Little Boy Sweet” by Jude Pointer. Unfortunately all US home video versions of the movie omit the two instances of I’m so Excited and exchange them for Little Boy Sweet, so as a result it plays in all three scenes. But for TV versions I’m so Excited played where it was supposed to, and that’s how it is on the foreign dubs as well. (before you say it, no the blu-ray does not restore the song in the English track) But I wanna preserve the original English language version of the movie with the soundtrack fully intact, so if anyone can provide me with a version with the song intact and in English please let me know.

Charles Threepio said:

Open All Hours Series 2 is one. Most DVD prints remove a scene from one episode where Granville parodies Singin’ in the Rain. I happen to have an early R2 DVD release which retains the scene, and my PBS station’s print also retains it.

do you happen to know if the R1 DVD releases remove it?

In some ways some of the original US stereo mixes need to be preserved too. There were often subtle differences between them and the UK stereo mixes (the ones currently available today). One example is for the original US stereo release of Rubber Soul, uniquely for the song I’m Looking Through You contains two false starts at the opening that were edited out in the UK pressing and current re-issues. This was due to a mistake on Capitol’s part where when Parlaphone (the UK distributor) edited out the two false starts, they sent Capitol the master before they edited out the false starts, and Capitol simply just didn’t edit them out because they thought they belong with the song. But as I said, all current re-issues of the album reflect the UK pressing. This flub also was only unique to the US stereo version of the album, the mono version edited them out as well.

If you don’t understand, here’s what I mean
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke26Z4DZCsg

a bunch of the old New Line Cinema logos need to be preserved

This is a thread where I want to go into about how movies and TV shows have lack of distribution on DVD or streaming due to the amount of music featured. This is different from my thread about TV shows edited on DVD due to music, this is where TV shows haven’t been able to be properly distributed due to the music featured. (however, individual episodes may count as well) Examples of movies include FM (1978) and The Wild Life (1984), TV shows would include WKRP (though really only a problem till 2014) and Cold Case.

Made a comparison of the audio mixes for Chinatown

https://vimeo.com/355793301

timemeddler said:

Beverly Hillbillies and Bonanza, two iconic theme songs replaced because of music rights.

WAIT?!

FUCKING BEVERLY HILLBILLIES HAD ITS THEME CHANGED ON THE DVD?!?!

JayArgonaut said:

lilmanjs said:

Mill Creek claims that Quantum Leap is back to the original form on their blu ray release. I haven’t seen the dvd releases to know if true or not, but the licensed music is still there. I have yet to get through the entire series though.

If you can confirm that the original music has been restored, I’ll update my list.

I can confirm myself that the blu-ray releases restore the music in both the US Mill Creek release and the UK Fabulous Films release, however both releases are not 100% the same

On the US Mill Creek release, the episodes Genesis, Lee Harvey Oswald, and Trilogy Parts 2 and 3 (originally parts 2 and 3 were edited together into one movie) are presented in their syndicated two part versions, as the original NBC versions were movie versions. On the UK Fabulous Films release, Genesis and Lee Harvey Oswald are both restored to their original movie versions, however parts 2 and 3 of Trilogy still remain in their split form.

From what I know, the original movie version of Trilogy Parts 2 and 3 have never been seen outside of the original NBC broadcast, and even the original Universal DVD releases had it split into the two part version (though the same DVD release presented Genesis and Lee Harvey Oswald in their movie versions).

crissrudd4554 said:

SpacemanDoug said:

ChainsawAsh said:

Mission Hill had the majority of its music replaced on video. Thankfully there’s a very good restoration on MySpleen.

That 70s Show on streaming, DVD, and BR is a mess of music replacement and syndication edits depending on which version you have access to, but to my knowledge none of them have the original music despite frequent claims to the contrary.

The first season (at least) of Scrubs is missing a large chunk of the original music on DVD and streaming.

The new Netflix dub of Evangelion took out Fly Me to the Moon on every episode for licensing reasons (I’ve made a version of this new dub with the music restored myself).

I actually had involvement in restoring a bunch of music to episodes of That 70s Show, though sadly I’m still missing a bunch of episodes (most of them from season 2)

And literally to show off my work I uploaded snipets from the restorations on YT, and surprisingly I’ve had little trouble from this. (there were only two cases where a video got taken down cause of the music featured)

Off topic but do you know why the mouth effects on the Aerosmith cut outs have been removed from later releases?? I think even TV reairings have used this version too.

(Not my video)

https://youtu.be/nWjShj3IZpo

it’s clearly due to an overlook in the remastering process when the widescreen versions were created, they forgot to animate the mouths and eye wink (ironically the clip you posted is actually the version where the music cue was changed from the original FOX version)

here’s the restored song version I uploaded, skip to 3:03 for the specific moment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpU6TtkVyjQ

I made a comparison of the original mono and 5.1 remix of the first Dirty Harry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Evr1sI1UScw

ChainsawAsh said:

Mission Hill had the majority of its music replaced on video. Thankfully there’s a very good restoration on MySpleen.

That 70s Show on streaming, DVD, and BR is a mess of music replacement and syndication edits depending on which version you have access to, but to my knowledge none of them have the original music despite frequent claims to the contrary.

The first season (at least) of Scrubs is missing a large chunk of the original music on DVD and streaming.

The new Netflix dub of Evangelion took out Fly Me to the Moon on every episode for licensing reasons (I’ve made a version of this new dub with the music restored myself).

I actually had involvement in restoring a bunch of music to episodes of That 70s Show, though sadly I’m still missing a bunch of episodes (most of them from season 2)

And literally to show off my work I uploaded snipets from the restorations on YT, and surprisingly I’ve had little trouble from this. (there were only two cases where a video got taken down cause of the music featured)

Starting this thread to spark up a topic about a bunch of TV shows that have music replacement on DVD releases and even in some cases edit out entire scenes. Some examples include a bunch of CBS DVD’s releases of their classic shows. Plus a few others that haven’t even been released at all due to music rights.

Pretty much the majority of Clint Eastwood’s classic library (mainly his stuff with Warner Bros.), The Dirty Harry series being one of the most infamous ones.

riftamos said:

I’ll take a dig through my laserdisc collection and see if I have it.

can you PM me if you do?

MrBrown said:

Did you check, if the 25th anniversary DVD with DC and TC has the original mix? It contains a 2.0 Dolby Stereo track.

Also the German Turbine BD set with both cuts contains an English 2.0 Stereo DTS-MA track on the Theatrical Cut.

Afraid I don’t have access to either one of those releases