Slavicuss

Some don’t want the originals back, and are perfectly happy with the crap that’s been around since 1997 (in various upgrades).

Interesting …

A while back I did something similar for JAWS and JAWS 2. I zoomed in to remove the black bars, Reframed and cropped almost every shot to make fullscreen versions for my extended cuts. I had no choice, as the TV cuts for JAWS and JAWS 2 contain (still unreleased) deleted scenes only presented in 4:3. I used the early 2000s DVDs, at the time.

Might have to go back and do it all over again - but this time - use the BD releases. I’d got lucky with JAWS, the fullscreen 2000 JAWS DVD release saved me a lot of work.

It’s a b**tard of a job, going through each shot and reframing it (I used iMovie). Still, if you want a nice-looking fullscreen version of a film, it’s the only way to go. Old laserdisc and videotape releases just don’t cut it quality-wise.

Are you planning on doing the same for the other two prequels - or any of the other STAR WARS films?

Ronster said:

Well as far as the Lightsaber close up shot goes I messed up the audio a bit there… I don’t want to give up on it just yet because in the Film the Lightsaber just appears and Luke changes position which is a lot worse than the close up of the lightsaber.

That shot of R2-D2 in the Canyon is supposed to go there for some reason he was put in the other canyon earlier in the film and it just does not work at all in that part as it’s a totally different location and it ruins continuity,

As for Editing of the Banthas yeah it’s been a bit of a tough call because I am not editing it how I would really like to because there are big marks on some of the frames and I tried to avoid that knowing full well that nobody is going to clean it up or it might be very hard to clean up. I am not hitting the cues because I am avoiding big frame damage.

But I did notice when the cue of Drum roll starts this should probably cut to the Tuskan Raider running along the edge of the ridge. I should be able to hit that cue.

Never say final I will try and get another better version up in a while but I think best to keep the Landspeeder scanner as a brief crash cut.

The extra shot of the lightsaber - is that supposed to be carpet (background)?

The close-up shots of the Landspeeder scanner screen and the lightsaber (in Ben’s hovel) are too brief. The scanner screen shot I’d extend by some more frames. The lightsaber close-up I’d leave out.

I like the lone shot of R2, trundling along in the canyon.

The editing of the banthas is a little jarring.

Nice job!

You’ve edited out the Stormtrooper bumping his head, but left him adjusting his helmet a moment later, when the other troopers enter the room.

The tentacle grabbing Luke sounds very good, as does Chewie beating on the door.

Some of the wider shots look a little lighter compared to the tighter shots (inconsistent black level?)

The video quality is very nice. Lovely colours.

kg1977 said:

ifjg, Slavicuss, Ronster

Glad you like the colorization. I remember telling Benduwan (I think it was) that I had no plans to do black and white in extended versions, but once I saw the latest tools for this and how far things have come, I am definitely including what I can. Next up for BW is a portion of the Luke and Yoda training. I am also looking forward to Luke and the Rancor extra scene where he uses force jump.

I especially like the blue colour on the FX-7 droid in the background shots.

About the audio. What are you going to use for 2-1B’s addition dialogue (voiced by the director)?

I like the overhead shot (looking down through the grating) of young Skywalker about to get into hand-to-hand combat with the Gamorrean Guard. Would’ve been an interesting fight to see. Wonder if any more of it was filmed?

Nice colourisation job on the extended bacta tank scene!

kg1977 said:

Ronster said:
I redid the Techdome Edit to improve it and added the Blue Milk Scene.

Nice! if you want 1920 wide blue milk with no dust here is a link (no audio).

the google preview stinks so download to see full qual.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1o2fmTaQL1RFOqgSPhoSJQkSXiTqc1oQR/view?usp=sharing

I spent 3 hours on this scene removing as many imperfections although you probably would not think that. The color grade is higher SAT to match adywan. Comparison below (yea the overlay ANH-X text is only on the comparison I do.)

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1onQ1ekaoUMFnVTxgiGQZyxStypkxhUdx/view

but obviously adjust to your taste if inserting. Mine is 23.97 as well. Enjoy

I like your background sounds in blue milk with the generators/kitchen equipment sound. My blue milk is going somewhere else (before breakfast) as there is radio drama additional meal scene and dialogue and using blue milk to set that scene up. but your edit works here perfectly and where it was meant to go I’m sure.

tech dome looks great. I have more radio drama audio with 3PO and Mark Hamill which gives that scene a few extra seconds and confirms that what luke sees with treadwell was indeed the same ship the droids came from, but what you have here cleans up the “official” cut of this. I thought I saw an extra shot of oil bath at one time (was that your first shot)? I would have to go see if that was it? just a small extra angle if I remember. Only other suggestion is to remove the audio where 3PO sais he is not sure he has been in many battles as clearly time has passed since EP III memory wipe and now, although that is subjective and very small detail. I think there was a Youtube cut that someone tried that idea out.

anyway nice work.

I am trying to finish the colorizations of the ESB "Friends watch Luke’s bacta bath scene atm, but will go check out and do the tweaks on Tosche later mid-week.

Great job cleaning the footage.

What software did you use for scratch removal? Any recommendations for a Mac user?

Ronster said:

1. I took a still of Luke with the magenta face and put it in “gimp” and put green in the shadows and it fixed the weird magenta you are getting so that should work.
2. Long shot yeah as I said look at “Star Wars begins” for that shot it looks like the whole shot was over dark I think the sky perhaps needs more gain or brightness and less saturation. Alternatively upscale that shot as it’s not blocky like the rest or color match.
   3.It’s ok to have a washed out sky if that is the lighting conditions - dusty desert. Yeah it’s only at the start I can see the edge softness issue once he jumps off the landspeeder it’s gone.
   4.Yeah it’s either blue contrast on that stairs element or it needs red push. The box the other side of the door also looks too sharp consider darkening that element a bit so it sits or blends better. This looks better than the star wars begins version just need to get the blend on.

To be honest it’s all small tweaks but you are very close to having that look very good.

I redid the Techdome Edit to improve it and added the Blue Milk Scene. Sww the link below

https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/654620410

There was some audio I discovered was the wrong way around when Luke Uses the Wrench

The important bit of audio was found in the documentary Star Wars the Magic and the Mystery where there is an isolated soundmix without Leia’s “Help me Obiwan-Kenobi” lines and with R2-D2 whirring and projector coming on. I think that tells us that we did not get perhaps all the changes that were planned perhaps as this fixes the fact the recording is not saying the lines at the time it is played by R2. A few scenes are shifted about.

I also employed the Tuskan Raider Rocking Backwards and Forwards trick on R2-D2 to help smooth out the continuity of the end conversation as it was a bit Jarring.

Then I added sound mix for Blue Milk to the end. Hope you like this final iteration.

Nice job.

What’s the frame rate for the deleted “blue milk” scene you’ve reinstated. It looks a little choppy compared to the surrounding material?

Love the colours for the garage interior. Much nicer than any of the official DVDs and Blu-rays.

Nice work.

Nice job!

So much STAR WARS stuff that still hasn’t been released.

Tatooine looked better with blue grey skies and no clouds.

With WEREWOLF, I think it was a mistake to show the transformation in a well-lit room. I would’ve had David, already asleep in a darkened room (instead of reading a book), waking up in pain, to the start of the transformation.

The final werewolf form is shown in quick shocking glimpses (my favourite shot of it is in the porn theatre, standing over the disembowelled theatre usher munching on his guts, when it’s interrupted by the Bobby). As with ALIEN, less is more.

Seeing the surviving outtakes of the werewolf, I can see why they were cut - the thing looks like a dog - and not some supernatural beast - “a Hound from Hell”.

Still, I’d like to see the complete tramps death scene - if it was filmed. Also, it’s a great pity the first two victims, the young couple, didn’t get a more gruesome death. It was planned to be more violent, but the actress was so cold, she couldn’t stop shivering during filming, so her scenes weren’t completed.

I’d really, really like to see the tramp getting mauled on the bonnet of the wrecked car by the beast. Oh well … we’ll probably never see it, but at least the car can be spotted in the finished film, so we have some idea of what the scene may’ve looked like - if it was, indeed, filmed?

Have a look at the comments section from the extended tramp video you’ve linked - somebody says they saw the extra footage on a videotape release, back in ‘83.

I call “bullshot” on that one - although, I’ve heard there may be a rare videotape release that is slightly extended?

I first saw the film on Betamax in 1984, and since then, no extra footage from any videotape release. It’d be great if it were true.

• Love that porn music. Nice to hear it ‘clean’. Thanks!

Ronster said:

That is the sad thing with films that you can know about stuff that was filmed and imagine what it might have been like yet also have no way of knowing what it actually was like…

I think like American Werewolf in London the out’s and trims have been binned off. Think about that for a moment a successful film like American Werewolf in London had it’s deleted scenes tossed in the bin.

Now with American Werewolf it’s not anything that is ruining the film but the things that are said to have been deleted are quite obscure like.

Teaser Trailer shows cut scene of rain puddles and werewolf paw dunking in. This is obviously to do with Jack and David straying from the path.

Jack as a zombie in the Hospital talking to David eats a piece of toast and it falls out his throat (unreleased)
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When David wakes up in the Zoo in the wolfs den he was to spit out the bankers finger he killed (unreleased).

Snippets of the werewolf were cut on the underground of the wheelbarrow werewolf showing it coming around the corner of a tunnel and at the bottom of an escalator… This is on the dvd.

Then there is the infamous tramp scene which as far as I have been able to decipher had the werewolf with a tramp on a car bonnet mauling him (Unreleased) There is a also a pushback that this scene is a complete fabrication and never filmed. This scene was shot though down by tower bridge at the Guoman tower hotel I can see the filming location.

Lastly the decapitated man in Picadilly Circus you see the reverse angle of his head bouncing off a car bonnet which was cut and is on the dvd.

These things are small don’t hurt the film but sure make you want to see them but the ones released and on the DVD are not as nearly interesting as the ones you heard about that you never saw.

So with these things always bear in mind that it could be poor and deleted for a good reason but it does not help you from wanting to see it.

Tossed in the bin the outs and trims are for American Werewolf you will never see the Tramps the Bankers finger being spat out in the zoo or the tRamp being mauled on top of a car bonnet. THEY HAD THE FILM THE REST WAS NOT REQUIRED!

There’s another deleted scene that can be found within the photo galleries from the ARROW release: a police officer, lying dead in the gutter - accidentally shot by one of his own - after the werewolf is cornered in the alley.

As great as the originally filmed attack on the tramps sounds, I doubt it was ever filmed. No stills have surfaced from such an impressive sequence. Nobody (supposedly) on the production remembers it ever being filmed. Sadly, in my opinion, I believe Landis is making it up, to build mystique around the lost scenes - knowing that they are gone for good - if some of them were ever filmed?

The puddle of blood, sounds interesting … so does another deleted moment on the moors - a shot of the wolf’s glowing eyes, as it approaches, before attacking Jack. Also reverse camera angles of the wolf’s attack on Jack, would’ve shown it from his P.O.V.

The biggest loss for me is the extended sex scene. More of Agutter is always good.

Ronster said:

Slavicuss said:

WXM said:

Michael Mann should also revisit THE KEEP.

This seems to sum up the issues…

https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/the-disappearance-of-michael-manns-the-keep/

Bummer.

Well the alternate ending is found but the Special effects are obviously “never got done”.

So it is possible to salvage what remains to be found is if they kept the rest of the cut footage for the Keep which is unlikely.

THE KEEP has (or had?) some interesting cut scenes. The one where the old bastard (that’s tasked with watching over the Keep) is being murdered by his sons, sounds good. And the old priest, drinking blood from a slaughtered dog - oh yeah … and the rest of the Nazi carnage by Molasar.

Sadly, probably all binned?

Thanks!

Just finished watching the rest of it.

SPOILERS

You’ve made some interesting editing choices. I didn’t even miss the ‘Cullen Sawyer & slut wife’ subplot at all (even though I love the scene with the shotgun - a real sweat-inducing, classic brown trouser moment, if ever there was one).
I liked the reuse of the “Marsten House” shot (from the opening titles?), now used to cover the commercial fade-to-black, just after Mark Petrie falls down the stairs and sprains his ankle. This shot is ‘unbroken’ in the “SALEM’S LOT: THE MOVIE” version. I can see why it couldn’t be used for your cut (inferior videotape quality)
What did you use for the exterior shot of Eva Miller’s boarding house (at the 1 hrs - 54 secs mark)? It looked like something from “Little House on the Prairie”?

I wish you didn’t cut short Barlow’s first appearance in the prison cell. There’s so little of him as is.

You did a great job! I enjoyed that. Thanks!

MonkeyLizard10 said:

Slavicuss said:

Finally got to see an outtake of Walrus Man’s severed bloody head. Great stuff!

I think there is some other youtube video that has that footage and a bunch of other stuff.

You wouldn’t have a link?

I remember seeing a fan reconstruction of the scene a few years back. Great to finally see the real deal. I wonder how many fan edits will make good use of the outtake?

Haven’t watched the whole thing yet, but I like what you’ve done with the new ‘widescreen’ framing. Nice job!

WXM said:

Michael Mann should also revisit THE KEEP.

This seems to sum up the issues…

https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/the-disappearance-of-michael-manns-the-keep/

Bummer.

Finally got to see an outtake of Walrus Man’s severed bloody head. Great stuff!

Great video!

Lots of unseen footage from Jabba’s palace.

kg1977 said:

Slavicuss said:

Bobson Dugnutt said:

Long time, no update, but work is always progressing. I’m trying out a fancy new program and trying to isolate some vocals. Here’s Leia tending to Luke, with all audio noise and Kersh being muted.

So what software are you using? sounds pretty clean to me

It’s not a criticism of the software, I just wanted to know if it could handle that particular scene, as the audio is very poor.