Slavicuss

I turned five in 1977, but missed seeing STAR WARS on the big screen (same with EMPIRE), but did get to see JEDI at the cinema in late 1983.

I discovered STAR WARS through the original KENNER 3 & 3/4 inch action figures (around 1978 / 79). My first KENNER figure was Luke Skywalker: X-Wing Pilot in 1979.

STAR WARS (and the two sequels) were H-U-G-E back then. The merchandise was everywhere.

If you were lucky enough to be taken to a department store’s well-stocked toy section by your parents, the KENNER figures and accessories were everywhere. The little plastic dudes & dudettes were as common as flies.

A fantastic time to be alive (for a child). It was a pleasure to have lived through the original STAR WARS hoopla.

SilverWook said:

Is this Jabba’s hookah in a 1984 Doctor Who story?

A big fan of Colin Baker’s sixth incarnation. All the times I’ve watched “THE TWIN DILEMMA” and have never noticed that.

Remember the (deadly) frog head mask from “THE ABOMINABLE DR. PHIBES” (1971)? Something very similar to it is in this serial. It’s in Mestor’s palace throne room, used as decoration.

Mocata said:

I don’t think I’ve ever seen this photo before

Deep Roy. Also played Mr. Sin in the classic 1977 DOCTOR WHO serial “THE TALONS OF WENG-CHIANG”.

I think this image may be from Rinzler’s Making Of EMPIRE book?

gary1 said:

This might have some interesting stuff
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=me6f2dVq9q8

Very interesting video!

I’ve never seen that deleted shot of the Wampa’s paw, breaking through the ice, just before swiping Luke off his mount.

gary1 said:

That sounds like a lovely watch 😋👍

Do still enjoy Deleted Magic, Building Empire, Returning To Jedi etc and now even more material available.

So do I. All the above material was also used in my compilation video - as well as the edit droid JEDI outtakes.

I wanted to see everything in chronological order - and in one place.

There’s an unused foreground shot of the Wampa’s huge paw, as it approaches hanging Luke, in one of the EMPIRE trailers. It’s long enough to be of use for an extended edit.

I recently spent a week collecting all the STAR WARS ORIGINAL TRILOGY deleted scenes / outtakes & bloopers in one 2 + hours video compilation. Scouring my DVD and Blu-ray collection - as well as the Internet for the Rinzler Ebook material - and this place, was fun.

The quality isn’t very good due to the various sources and frame rates. I’ll burn it to disc and keep it as ‘bonus materials’, alongside my upscaled and colour graded 16:9 GOUT DVDs.

The two 40th Anniversary EMPIRE videos came in very handy. Thanks, DISNEY.

The 1980 theatrical release is perfect - why mess with it?

I do like the added SE shot of the SLAVE-1 pass-by. That’s it.

StarkillerAG said:

Slavicuss said:

I haven’t seen SOLO (don’t particularly want to), so I can’t be sure, but I think THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK may be the only STAR WARS film not to have subtitles for alien languages?

Not the only one. Revenge of the Sith doesn’t have any, and neither does The Last Jedi.

In general, it seems like the movies trying to be more serious avoid subtitles for some reason.

The only line in EMPIRE that could use subtitles (Bossk) doesn’t get one.

I haven’t seen SOLO (don’t particularly want to), so I can’t be sure, but I think THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK may be the only STAR WARS film not to have subtitles for alien languages?

2006 GOUT DVDs.

Once 4K80 is available, I’ll try and get all three of them. Haven’t seen any of the 4Ks yet.

Mocata said:

It’s almost like they have all this great material hoarded but don’t like to admit that deleted scenes exist for anything.

More of this stuff will probably find its way onto DISNEY’s exclusive digital platform services. STAR WARS fans are suckers for this kind of material.

A second LEGACY video includes more (very) interesting outtakes.

A nice, unused shot of Vader, meeting the bounty hunters - a rather revealing moment for Boba (probably the most vigilant of the bounty hunters - he seems to have eyes in the back of his head). And a much better (but brief) look at Dengar’s facial scarring make-up. Pity the outtake has been (conveniently?) split with a sh*tload of missing frames.

Must be the VERY FIRST TIME material has been released from the Bounty Hunters line-up scene?

jedi_bendu said:
Unless you’re thinking of a totally different death scene for Han than carbon-freezing-gone-wrong?

Roasted on a spit in “Golden Rod’s” honour.

I think Lucas painted himself into a corner by giving each film a numerical chapter. There could have been endless STAR WARS films made and set before and after the original 1977 film - ALL legit STAR WARS films, without having to be spin-offs (ROGUE ONE, SOLO, etc) - and using John Williams.

To truly get that “degenerate” vibe, intercut some hardcore STAR WARS porn scenes into the Jabba’s palace and sail barge scenes. Gotta have some sex scenes in there to go with the drunken revellers.

I’ve never seen the original theatrical versions of STAR WARS (1977) or THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK on the big screen - only the SE Trilogy, in 1997. But, I did get to see RETURN OF THE JEDI in late 1983.

I wouldn’t pay to see these films again unless they were the original theatrical versions.

Both 1983 & 1997 versions suck.

(1983) A pale imitation of the cantina band from the original film - let down by an unconvincing lead-singing puppet in a grass skirt and sporting hooker lips.

(1997) A grotesque, expanded and ‘improved’ version of the scene - with even more phoney looking CGI garbage thrown in and pointless cut-away shots to ‘ladies’ man’ Boba Fett. Sh*t.

Nicely done! Already much improved over the (intentional?) shoddy quality as presented on Blu-ray.

Sky_ said:

does the AFTER Image Look Fake??? as its CG
Thanks

The eye looks ‘dead’ - like doll’s eyes.

StarkillerAG said:

Slavicuss said:

I only asked about the cut Walrus Man decapitation scene because the severed arm gif reminded me of some pics I found online.

It appears the film’s violence was originally stronger, before being toned down to appeal to a family audience.

Actually, it was the reverse. Lucas intended the movie as a relatively light, family friendly film, but added the scenes of the burning homestead and Walrus Man’s death in order to secure a PG rating. On set of the movie, they filmed the severed arm shot, but it didn’t look right. They experimented with having Ben cut his head off, before deciding to just reshoot the severed arm.

The original severed arm? Would that be the weird, cup/bowl-like hand, instead of the hairy paw that’s in the final film? I think I saw footage of the original version somewhere, or maybe it was a b/w pic?

StarkillerAG said:

Slavicuss said:

Good clean, wholesome, family entertainment.

It actually is though. Like it or not, the movie was made with kids as a main part of the target audience. That’s a big part of the reason why it’s so popular, people of all ages can enjoy it. They just added those two random gory parts to prevent the movie getting a G rating, which would hurt its chances with adult audiences.

Was Walrus Man’s severed head also filmed?

I think it was, I clearly remember seeing footage of it online. It ended up being cut though, so it doesn’t really matter.

I only asked about the cut Walrus Man decapitation scene because the severed arm gif reminded me of some pics I found online.

It appears the film’s violence was originally stronger, before being toned down to appeal to a family audience.

Smoking or non-smoking?

Good clean, wholesome, family entertainment.

Was Walrus Man’s severed head also filmed?

Almost none of the original deleted material belongs in the films … the CGI junk, even less so.

Fang Zei said:
Maybe just maybe they’re saving the long sought after unaltereds for last.

If nothing happens in 2027, you’ll have your answer.

alter said:
Also wondering… was any video ever released of the royal guards crossing staves in front of Vader? It mirrors/adds foreshadowing to the shot of the Gamorreans barring Luke’s entry. It’s been so many years, I can’t recall where I saw/read about that.

Isn’t that from the deleted scene where Darth Vader almost strangles Moff Jerjerrod? Or is that (crossing staves) from another deleted scene?