I’ve been meaning to watch it! Haven’t gotten around to watching all of it yet, but I love the dub of Rey, really cute and funny.
I’m leaning toward Eddie’s view of things, but I will consider these edits, thank you! 😃
i’ve just read your updated cutlist: seems good ! I wish you would cut more (slight comedic) things but I globaly agree with the list.
Any particular things you would like to see cut?
the main thing I think I don’t agree with being the ending. But again I may change my mind about that when I get to see the finished result. The issue being I like fanedited version to keep the last shot of the official theatrical cut as it is (or more or less s it is, since Hal/Nev version has stabilized the shot).
There could be an issue with cutting out the ending when you watch different edits or original versions back to back and they don’t quite line up. My thinking behind removing the bit with Luke is that the scene is unnecessary in hindsight. Back in 2015 it was nice to get a look at Luke, but having seen TLJ the “cliffhanger” ending doesn’t quite work for me. Knowing that Luke will just throw the lightsaber away takes away the suspense of the ending. And ending with the Falcon in space seems like a more traditional Star Wars ending.
I’m still not totally sure about this decision though, since I like that the Luke ending gives some closure to “Luke Skywalker has vanished!”. Perhaps I could make two versions.
Perhaps my argument here is that aiming to hide the revelation only serves to suprise the audience, but it doesn’t suprise any of the main characters, so it doesn’t add to their emotional arcs. And as revealing it to the audience later doesn’t carry additional emotional heft for our main heroes (because it’s not a suprise), we’re not taken on a different emotional journey by hearing it either here or there. And as I said earlier, when you do leave it as is you get the persistent discomfort and anticipation about their eventual confrontation.
Good points. I still feel like it’s nicer to not spell everything out immediately, and I find it a bit silly how Snoke refers to Han Solo as “your father” and how Kylo addresses Vader as “grandfather”. So while I agree with you that the change may be pointless, it just feels slightly better to me this way.
Sir Ridley said:
3. If a projectile the size of a football would have the power of several nukes, wouldn’t the power still only be directed mostly forwards (and not in all directions like a bomb)? I assume a small projectile would only punch a hole straight through like a bullet rather than “nuking” the target. That wouldn’t necessarily work on something like the Death Star.Only if the projectile would somehow magically be able to remain intact. However, given the amount of energy involved the projectile would disintegrate as would the Death Star at the point of impact, resulting in flying debris with a similar amount of energy as the projectile, which would wreak havoc on the station and anything in the vicinity.
Right, didn’t think of that! I assume it would look similar to how it does in the movie though, with the impact spreading mostly forwards but branching out to the sides as well.
Ah ok then, so I agree with that option quite a lot ! I thought you were going to do the same as DigMod’s edit, that in my opinion wasn’t very convinving on this matter. So you’ll just remove Snoke’s “in the hands of your father” and Ren “Grand-father” ?
Yes! And possibly Han’s line “I saw our son”, but I’m unsure about that one. That might be a good moment to introduce the idea of there being a son, before we find out who it is. Maybe I’ll just remove the “he was here” part.
Regarding the hyperspace kamikaze.
I don’t mind it, I think it’s great.
Realistically I don’t think a ship could accelerate to light speed that quickly without killing everyone on board, so we’ll have to assume that the accelerating to “88 mph” works by somehow altering the physics involved.
If a projectile the size of a football would have the power of several nukes, wouldn’t the power still only be directed mostly forwards (and not in all directions like a bomb)? I assume a small projectile would only punch a hole straight through like a bullet rather than “nuking” the target. That wouldn’t necessarily work on something like the Death Star.
it’s still coming! I’ll need to update the changelist a bit since this is now based on the latest version of Restructured and I’ve had a few new ideas as well.
Cool ! I still haven’t found my TFA “perfect cut edition”, yours could probably become what I’m looking for (gonna be a though choice between yours and Nev’s cut). You’re still planning on making Ben Solo parentage a revelation ? On second though, I find it couterntuitive. Restructured aims at reworking the SKB subplot into something that’s no longer mimicking ANH too much (it still does, but less). With a “revealation structure”, you’ll get closer to mimicking TESB, don’t you think ?
I’m not too bothered by mimicking other episodes since the movies already do this a lot. Besides, the TESB “father” reveal comes out of the blue while the Ben reveal will be more gradual. It won’t be saved for the face off with Han, it will be revealed when Han talks to Leia in the Resistance base, just before we see Kylo take off his helmet for the first time.
The resistance gets alerted first which makes the spy reveal less surprising. But it’s no big deal, its probably better to just leave it in. I’ll consider changing the subtitles though, that’s a good idea!
How was this coming? Is there a workprint?
No release yet, but it’s still coming! I’ll need to update the changelist a bit since this is now based on the latest version of Restructured and I’ve had a few new ideas as well.
It’s in brackets in your changelist, but I’m not sure why you’d remove the shot of the droid alerting the resistance. Are you considering it for the sake of making the X-Wing/Poe reveal a bit more surprising?
If it were up to me, I’d keep that in. Both the First Order and Resistance get messaged, both send in the cavalry- that makes sense to me. I think having one and not the other only risks raising the question for a viewer, when we’re already wondering how Poe survived. I don’t think the excitement of an unexpected heroic rescue outweighs what you lose.
Yeah, you may be right, I will reconsider this. The idea was to give more suspense to the First Order spy discovering them and keep the Resistance bit secret.
That seems like an overstatement, my first post was literally just the word no.
You’re right. That was a very well thought out, positive response to a meaningless anecdote.
I didn’t say it wasn’t negative, just not hostile. In my mind a hostile post would have gone through all the ways you were wrong right off the bat, which would have been an overreaction considering your post was, like you say meaningless, so so was mine. I guess I could have said “you’re wrong,” or “that’s incorrect,” instead, might have been a bit more thought out, but I’m not sure how I could have responded in the positive to a post that’s totally inaccurate.
But that’s just the thing. I wasn’t trying to give some long unknown insight into the creative process of this film that needed to have holes poked in it. I was giving a witty remark in response to the comment implying that it was done purposely to please faneditors. You took seriously a comment that was an anecdotal response to a joke and came off as a bit arrogant in the process.
As stated, all I said was the word “no.”
Which speaks volumes about your mentality. Carry on.
Alright man, you’re assuming a lot from a single word, but you do you I guess.
Assumed nothing from no. Learned a lot about you from what followed. Move along.
And yet you said that my “no” response was arrogant and not in line with your apparently “witty remark”? Not sure if you’re learning right.
Maybe it’s just me, but I read everything you say in the voice and tone of your avatar. That possibly makes you seem older and grumpier than you are, but I like it.
Not to be rude but, what is your status on the Yoda face-replacement project?
That’s not rude! 😛 I don’t have the movie yet, so I haven’t started.
I would love to see an a fan edit extended cut of TLJ. The one’s mostly finished like Luke In Mourning, Not Much Of A Sewer, It’s Kind Of Weird You Recorded That (I notice the last shot you see a little bit of BB8’s puppeteer), Caretaker Sizes Up Rey, CareTaker Village Sequence (Bagpipes exist in the Star Wars Universe!!!), Mega Destroyer Incursion (I realize the film version is the alternate shorter version but you could keep both versions which is what I would like to see. I find it intresting as a whole extended scene.) Their’s shot that would have to reorder but in my mind it could work. The Shot of Kylo on The Bridge could be one or two place. The first in between where Finn and Rose are telling Poe they found a codebreaker and have the Shot of Ren looking over the bridge then Rey getting in the escape pod. The 2nd place would be after Flacon escape pod is launch and heads towards Snoke ship, the Ren Shot could be put there. I prefer the 1st Now for the Finn, Rose and The Code Breaker infiltration. Keep the original scene just cut out “Almost There” (That’ll come in later) everything else plays out. After Snoke’s line “Young Rey, Welcome”, this is how I would go about the rest of the deleted scene. Go right into the scene where the elevator door opens with the 3 of them. You’d have to cut the BB8 shots being theirs a trash bin over him and he doesn’t have it when he peeps behind the legs. The only way I could see it working if you’d keep it, is putting it before they exit the laundry room. The shot of Finn putting the bin over BB8 would be cut being he’s obviously already done that. In the deleted scene he say’s Almost There like in the original version but with a different background. After Finn say’s “Right around the corner.” you can put the part where BB8 runs into the wall from the movie.) Finn and Rose Go To Where They Belong being the last. Now the one that wont work due the most shots having pre-visuals would be the Alternate Opening, Paige’s Gun Jams, Extended Fathier Chase (Who really wants this one?), Rose Bites The Hand That Taunts Her, Phasma Squeals Like A Whoop Hog (I love this Alternate Scene better then what we got in the film and hope to see someone complete the visuals and render it up), lastly Rey and Chewie On The Falcon. I know theirs fan extended projects of the Star Wars films and hope someone tackles a Extended Ep.8. I know I’m probably am not the only one who would like it?
Personally I wouldn’t make a purely extended cut since I feel like trimming small bits here and there too but I would like to use most of the scenes you mention. Someone will probably make a regular extended cut too.
Very, very rough test for an idea regarding Luke dropping the lightsaber:
That’s great, I’d like to use that. It would be nice to have a shot of the saber landing. Perhaps that could be composited from some other shots, or even filmed by someone with a replica saber.
I’ve been playing around with the digital release and exploring ways to alter Canto Bight.
I’m trying out a less aggressive editing path first off which would be going from the prison cell conversation to them in hyperspace. I am curious whether it would be best to cut to a different scene after the prison or one right after the other to make it less confusing.
-Cut from prison cell to hyperspace
-Used The Last Jedi OST to smooth over transition
I think this needs something in between to establish that they get into/are in the ship and/or that the ship leaves Canto Bight.
I think banter between an actor and director, (playful or otherwise) far removed from the set of the film goes a bit beyond the realm of critique and discussion of the actual film here.
Which is why I asked why I should care. Certainly in the context of this thread, it doesn’t matter in the slightest what the two guys think of each other.
If I knew they hated each other it would make me enjoy the movie a bit less. Technically the movie would be the same, but as a fan it feels better to know that the people involved had a good time. And it certainly seems like they did.
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Not in here you don’t, Val.
Take it the TLJ opinion/review thread.
Taking something obviously said as a joke out of context like that does you or your views on TLJ no favours.
I didn’t see it as a joke but a veiled insult to someone that has been as outspoken as possible about his dissatisfaction with a number of matters in a very smart and humourous way without drawing the wrath of the mouse and disappointing his fans by being booted from the remaining SW movies he has a chance to be in.
I think you’re most definitely wrong. It was friendly banter, nothing sinister about it. Check out this interview as well. https://youtu.be/YYMga3GHOZU?t=33m33s Lots of teasing remarks like that but obviously there’s a friendship between them and a lot of mutual love and admiration.
To bring this back on topic… perhaps Frink could use Mark’s idea about growing to Godzilla size and stomping the First Order. That would be something.
I certainly don’t think so - go to 35:07 and there’s a perfect example of what I’m talking about. A joke about killing the past and RJ is doing a good job of it to which RJ half heartedly laughs it off while looking down and is obviously awkward in his behaviour, signifying to me he personally has different thoughts on Mark’s comment. You have to ask yourself - why would Mark actually be happy about killing of the past, his past and a character he has been the active custodian of for 40 years and had to think of it as “Jake Skywalker” in order to play the part? He obviously doesn’t agree and this is one of his many little ways he has employed over the past months of letting RJ, Disney and the audience know without actually saying it and causing a real PR shit fight.
Val
I’m not saying they don’t disagree, they probably disagree on many things (like friends can do). But I don’t see any hostility between them or a need to belittle each other, they disagree on some things but they’re just having fun with it.
Later they discuss creative differences. https://youtu.be/YYMga3GHOZU?t=42m33s Look at 42:50 where Rian genuinely laughs at Mark’s story and Mark grabs Rians hand and smiles. Very sweet and friendly but still acknowledging that there were some creative differences. Later on at 43:15 Mark admits he might have had some stupid ideas (Godzilla Luke). At 47:12 they discuss how some of Mark’s ideas are in the film too, like the forehead kiss with Leia and the wink to C3PO. Then at 48:04 Rian teases Mark in reference to their creative differences while at the same time acknowledging that it wasn’t all bad. Then he pats Marks arm to say sorry and Mark jokes on himself about the Godzilla idea. I think it’s all very wholesome and fun, no ill will there.
^ off topic thread by .Val edited to a ‘.’.
Not in here you don’t, Val.
Take it the TLJ opinion/review thread.
Taking something obviously said as a joke out of context like that does you or your views on TLJ no favours.
I didn’t see it as a joke but a veiled insult to someone that has been as outspoken as possible about his dissatisfaction with a number of matters in a very smart and humourous way without drawing the wrath of the mouse and disappointing his fans by being booted from the remaining SW movies he has a chance to be in.
I think you’re most definitely wrong. It was friendly banter, nothing sinister about it. Check out this interview as well. https://youtu.be/YYMga3GHOZU?t=33m33s Lots of teasing remarks like that but obviously there’s a friendship between them and a lot of mutual love and admiration.
To bring this back on topic… perhaps Frink could use Mark’s idea about growing to Godzilla size and stomping the First Order. That would be something.
*it seems like it’s not the third lesson because it’s actually just a sort of continuation of the second. Presumably the third is simply untaught.
Rian has stated this as well.
http://ew.com/movies/2018/03/02/first-look-deleted-scenes-star-wars-the-last-jedi/3/
If you have a music only track doesn’t that mean you can do an inversion method to eliminate all music in the channels? I thought I heard something about that a while back.
You could, if the music is mixed the same way. The music in the complete mix probably plays at different levels depending on other sounds in the scene while the music only track might be more even and up front. That could be a problem as the levels need to be the same. Either way the music only track should come in handy for fanediting purposes.
I have 540 titles on my IMDb watchlist so I’ll spare you that. I’ll just name a few important ones.
Movies:
Series:
Have you tried these? I’ve always wanted to make lembas bread.
I guess what I’m trying to say is that I’m not okay, and that’s okay, because maybe I am okay, or will be okay, if that makes sense.
Yes, it’s okay! It’s good to acknowledge to yourself what you are feeling and why. Sometimes it can be a good thing to look at your feelings from an outside perspective, and hopefully find that things are normal and will get better with time.
Getting over a crush is one of those things where you’re dealing with feelings rather than an actual problem, you are still the same person as you were before having those feelings and life goes on, yet something feels wrong. Just allow the feelings to come to you, process them, and in time you can move on.
I really wanted to go into the newest Star Wars movie spoiler free, but people on this site have been carelessly referring to the film’s title outside of the spoiler thread, and I consider the title to be a major spoiler. I also saw someone post the movie poster too, and that’s a huge spoiler. I actually saw part of the trailer on Youtube! Now that I’ve been exposed to so many spoilers I just don’t even see a reason to watch the film.
Preferably you should never know what movie you’re seeing or even that you’re going to see a movie. You just wake up one day and everything is dark and suddenly the Star Wars logo appears in front of you and the movie plays. Perhaps the logo should be removed though, to not spoil that it’s a Star Wars movie. In fact, remove all Star Wars tropes, change the actors and the names and the music. And then before the credits it’s written “actually, this was a Star Wars movie, bet you didn’t see that coming!”.
So, what Last Jedi fan edits do we have proposed so far?
darthrush’s Dark Cut
Hal9000’s Legendary Fanedit
My Light Edit
EvenSteven’s Firestorm Fanedit
I intend to do one as well, haven’t made a thread for it yet though.
I’m no good at initiating conversations.
Me neither. The trick is to just stay quiet until someone else starts talking to you.
But what if no one else starts talking?
That’s not a problem unless you want/need to talk.
If you do, you just might have to overcome that hurdle. It’s worked out okay for me so far.
