I wouldn’t say the soundtrack is worse than Twilight Princess or Wind Waker which are my favorites. It’s not worse either. It’s just different from what we’re used to, just like the game itself.
So, neither worse nor worse, got it.
D’oh! I meant neither worse nor better, naturally.
The first part bothers me a bit. I understand that it’s a metaphor, but shadows literally can’t darken stars so it sounds a bit weird. The First Order themselves are now literally darkening stars though, so that’s something.
The second part is a bit too unclear and symbolical for me. There are many words that hold meaning while not actually describing what we’re dealing with so you don’t know what to focus on. “Foundry”, “backbone”, “machine”, “forging”. I think you could be more to the point. The important parts are “hidden”, “First Order” and “weapon” so don’t put too many mysterious words around them.
The last part is pretty good, but I would change a few things. First of all I wouldn’t begin with mentioning “their doom” before we know who “they” are. And the forming of the resistance has already happened so I would say Leia “leads” them instead.
“A covert RESISTANCE fears that their doom is close at hand. With no support from the Republic, the general in charge sends her finest pilot in search of the long-lost
Jedi…” or something like that, maybe?
I hope everyone will stop saying “Breath of the Wild has no music” now.
The soundtrack is five discs.
And I want it.Breath of the Wild’s music is mostly atmospheric. It only has a few big numbers (and I can only think of three that are not recycled), compared to the many that are available in other Zelda games. Case in point: https://www.zreomirror.com/twilight-symphony/
Yes, BOTW does have music, but most of it is not catchy or at all memorable. This especially doesn’t jive with how big a deal Nintendo has made in recent years about how important music is to the Zelda franchise.
…And, doing some research before submitting this post, I found out that Koji Kondo, the primary composer for much of the Zelda franchise, did not compose at all for BOTW.
You say “atmospheric” like it’s a bad thing. I think the music in BotW is fantastic and does exactly what it should. If there was an epic catchy overworld theme you would quickly get tired of it. Instead we get quiet and unpredictable music that stays in the background and lets us be present in the world and attentive to the sounds around us. The music doesn’t have to scream at us that “wow, this is such an adventure”, it just whispers “this is nice” as we hear footsteps in the grass, birds, wind, enemies in the distance.
In older Zelda games the overworld was just the space between the important experiences, so playing some adventurous music as we head for our next stop makes sense. But in BotW you make your own adventure. The music can’t just assume that you’re out to do heroic deeds all the time. You’re exploring, you’re gathering, you’re looking for secrets, maybe aimlessly wandering. You can spend hours not doing anything in particular. The music works perfectly for that.
And then there are the themes. Lots and lots of recognizable themes with many variations. They are not always catchy or hummable (but when they are, they’re great), but they underscore what is happening in the game and feel like a part of the world.
I wouldn’t say the soundtrack is worse than Twilight Princess or Wind Waker which are my favorites. It’s not better either. It’s just different from what we’re used to, just like the game itself.
The one thing that I miss from the game and soundtrack are unique dungeons/temples with their own themes. But that’s okay.
I was actually curious about this myself as for some cropping of shots will be done for my TLJ edit and I wanted to use the 4K source just for those shots but I guess I can’t. For reference I have Intel core i7, 8 gb ram, and a gtx 960 video card.
Having some shots in 4K shouldn’t be a problem. They will just take longer to render and preview.
Maybe you could use the same clip for a quick test yourself? Could be interesting to compare.
I’ll do that!
I think it’d be neat to have two “fixed” versions of the TLJ Yoda scene for fan editors to use as sources - one that fixes the mouth to be ESB/ROTJ puppet-accurate, and one that additionally “fixes” the mouth movements a la Adywan’s ESB:R.
If I was any decent at that kind of stuff I’d do it myself, but sadly I’m shit at animation/motion graphics type stuff (that was the only film/video class I failed in college).
Yeah, the ESB:R Yoda is very nice. I don’t know exactly how adywan pulled that off, but once I’m working on Yoda’s face I’ll likely experiment with some enhanced mouth movements.
I think he used the puppet warp tool. (Or whatever the After Effects equivalent is called of that photoshop tool. Can’t remember if it’s called something different, but it performs the same function.)
I think he did the subtle movement of the cantina aliens the same way.
I’m aware of the puppet warp tool, but I’ve only used it on image layers, not video. I’m curious of how he made the warp mesh follow the face. Perhaps you could stabilize the face, warp it, and then “destabilize” it. It could also be possible to use displacement maps which follow the face and fade in and out to displace parts of the face. I guess I’ll just have to experiment a bit.
I think it’d be neat to have two “fixed” versions of the TLJ Yoda scene for fan editors to use as sources - one that fixes the mouth to be ESB/ROTJ puppet-accurate, and one that additionally “fixes” the mouth movements a la Adywan’s ESB:R.
If I was any decent at that kind of stuff I’d do it myself, but sadly I’m shit at animation/motion graphics type stuff (that was the only film/video class I failed in college).
Yeah, the ESB:R Yoda is very nice. I don’t know exactly how adywan pulled that off, but once I’m working on Yoda’s face I’ll likely experiment with some enhanced mouth movements.
So, as one point in my “fix list” I have “fix Yoda’s face”. I think most of us agree that it was great to see the little puppet, but I’ve seen many say that there was something off about his look, which I agree with. I think it’s mostly due to the mouth which looks a bit different. So for my edit I’ll try to overlay and animate the correct Yoda mouth. Here’s a simple test image (original left, fixed right):
When you end up finishing these scenes, do you plan on releasing them for others to use (crosses fingers)
Absolutely! I’ll make a thread when I start editing and share anything I make that could be useful for others.
Despite myself being at peace with the Luke Vs Kylo fight it would be really awesome if someone reimagined the fight & use 3d doubles to give us an actual saber fight!I know that would require alot of work but can happen right?
This is very very hypothetic but if someone would bother to add a fight I think actor doubles (with digital faces if needed) would be the easiest way (but far from easy) to pull it off convincingly. Of course it can happen, but I doubt it.
Also I’m not sure the projected light saber could clash with a real light saber.
Kinda stretching it but it is possible just to edit out that it’s a force projection & imply that it’s the real luke plus change the blade to green for obvious reasons.
😛Yeah, but then you’d have to change his hair and beard too, since his projection looks younger. And you can’t use the original Ach-To death scene. Would Luke die in the fight? You’d have to make all sorts of crazy changes. Would he live? You’d have to make crazy changes to Episode IX. So that might be nearly impossible. 😛
Hehe you got me but hey just throwing some ideas out there for fun but who knows someone might pick up on this idea one day.
😄
Of course, it’s better to discuss some wild ideas than just sticking to the easy ones!
Despite myself being at peace with the Luke Vs Kylo fight it would be really awesome if someone reimagined the fight & use 3d doubles to give us an actual saber fight!I know that would require alot of work but can happen right?
This is very very hypothetic but if someone would bother to add a fight I think actor doubles (with digital faces if needed) would be the easiest way (but far from easy) to pull it off convincingly. Of course it can happen, but I doubt it.
Also I’m not sure the projected light saber could clash with a real light saber.
Kinda stretching it but it is possible just to edit out that it’s a force projection & imply that it’s the real luke plus change the blade to green for obvious reasons.
😛
Yeah, but then you’d have to change his hair and beard too, since his projection looks younger. And you can’t use the original Ach-To death scene. Would Luke die in the fight? You’d have to make all sorts of crazy changes. Would he live? You’d have to make crazy changes to Episode IX. So that might be nearly impossible. 😛
Despite myself being at peace with the Luke Vs Kylo fight it would be really awesome if someone reimagined the fight & use 3d doubles to give us an actual saber fight!I know that would require alot of work but can happen right?
This is very very hypothetic but if someone would bother to add a fight I think actor doubles (with digital faces if needed) would be the easiest way (but far from easy) to pull it off convincingly. Of course it can happen, but I doubt it.
Also I’m not sure the projected light saber could clash with a real light saber.
Sir Ridley said:
The puppet is pretty great otherwise, but the mouth is so important for his appearance. It looks like he lost his teeth.Hence my argument that a muppet should be used for Yoda, but with CGI mouth movements. In fact, I see no reason the same approach couldn’t be taken with a host of characters that are either animatronics or actors with prosthetics. The Nemoidians are examples of the latter, and while they were lame characters anyway, because of the writing, at the very least they would have looked better if their mouths had been animated.
The Nemoidians have animatronic faces, I think they work pretty well. And I don’t mind Yoda’s puppet mouth in ESB, it just has the wrong shape in TLJ.
http://www.starwars.com/news/star-wars-mysteries-getting-to-the-bottom-of-max-rebo
The kind of thing you never knew you needed to know. Wow.
Original “arms-are-really-legs-&-ears-are-really-flippers” Max is now the Max of my personal canon.
Same. I suppose he is actual canon too, considering that the illustrations with legs are now EU/Legends.
http://www.starwars.com/news/star-wars-mysteries-getting-to-the-bottom-of-max-rebo
The kind of thing you never knew you needed to know. Wow.
It’s this one but that is subject to change.
So…like…is it subject to this elephant changing into something else, or this elephant changing into a completely different elephant?
Elephants never change. Or so I’ve heard. Or maybe they never forget, I don’t remember.
Maybe figuring out there is no Lesson 3 is the lesson?
I just always assumed things got out of hand between Luke and Rey before they could get to a third lesson. This deleted scene certainly sounds like a lesson since Luke set it up to reach Rey… a lesson. About the Jedi. I don’t know.
Jedit:
Maybe the deleted scene is more like a test. To see if Rey is worthy of being a Jedi.
It has kind eyes. It is also extremely blue. Does it have a name?
This guy gets it.
And yes it does! I appreciate your interest!
What’s the name? Or is it anonymous?
It has kind eyes. It is also extremely blue. Does it have a name?
The absolute best use of this would be to take the face of ESB Yoda and put it over TLJ Yoda.
Quick Photoshop attempt;
I want some of what bottom Yoda’s smoking.
I think it looks to cg
Who is “cg”?
Why does It look to him?
What does It look to CG for? Assistance? guidance?These are questions we may never find the answers to.
It Looks fake
That’s because it’s a “quick photoshop attempt”.
Here’s a slightly less quick photoshop attempt I made where I overlayed parts of old Yoda on new Yoda:
I think I can make this work in the movie with After Effects rather than FakeApp.The upper lip is my only real issue with the TLJ puppet. Possibly also the way the mouth scrunches together when closed, but that might just be an extension of the upper lip issue.
Yep, I agree. The puppet is pretty great otherwise, but the mouth is so important for his appearance. It looks like he lost his teeth.
Maybe it’s 16:9 because they cropped the time codes? 😮
Maybe, but it doesn’t look like it. Assuming the time codes would look like the ones from TFA they would have to cut off the left side of the image but the framing of the shots look good, nothing seems to be missing. But we still don’t know if they will actually look like this on the home release, we’ll just have to wait and see.
‘First Look at deleted scenes for Star Wars: The Last Jedi’…
http://ew.com/movies/2018/03/02/first-look-deleted-scenes-star-wars-the-last-jedi/
Interesting! All of them sound like they could be nice to put back in, or at least fun to watch.
A tiny glimpse of the deleted scenes.
https://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2018/02/a-brief-look-at-deleted-scenes-from-the-last-jedi-home-video-release.html
No time code is shown, so I hope that’s how they look. It’s odd that the clips are in 16:9 format though. Maybe that’s how it was filmed and you just have to crop it for the movie? Or is it a cropped version of a wider ratio? We’ll see.
The absolute best use of this would be to take the face of ESB Yoda and put it over TLJ Yoda.
Quick Photoshop attempt;
I want some of what bottom Yoda’s smoking.
I think it looks to cg
Who is “cg”?
Why does It look to him?
What does It look to CG for? Assistance? guidance?These are questions we may never find the answers to.
It Looks fake
That’s because it’s a “quick photoshop attempt”.
Here’s a slightly less quick photoshop attempt I made where I overlayed parts of old Yoda on new Yoda:
I think I can make this work in the movie with After Effects rather than FakeApp.
I like both. Shrug.
The movie and the soundtrack? Me too, just saying the movie could’ve been more memorable, but it’s still good. I should watch it again, it’s been a while.
