xhonzi said:
SilverWook said:
Falling in love is a no-no, but cheap one night stands with hot alien chicks is okay? Wow!
I think you're confusing us with Star Trek?
Not at all. ;)
The minute I spotted this guy in Episode One, I thought it was Yoda's love child! ;)
Lan Hikari said:
It really irks me whenever I hear Avatar called (by critics and others) "the greatest sci-fi epic since Star Wars." It is not! They are nothing alike at all in my view. To me Avatar is not even in the same league (or close to it even). Not that I thought Avatar was bad, just not great by any means and just an ok film (Cameron's previous six films were way way better IMO). Now I totally respect other people's opinions and all but the aforementioned idea is just plain absurd to me.
My two cents.
That the original film is still the high water mark by which all other genre films are measured up to 33 years later, is pretty darn amazing!
Vaderisnothayden said:
I don't think the jedi are supposed to get women pregnant. I think in some EU thing some jedi got disciplined by the order for getting a woman pregnant.
I'm still glad he let them have sex, despite the unpleasant implications. Otherwise you might get paedophile jedi knights preying on the padawans/younglings and Yoda trying to cover up the scandal.
Dave Chappelle did a skit on his show about such a scandal!
http://www.comedycentral.com/videos/index.jhtml?videoId=213010&title=jedi-sex-scandal
Does every movie need irony? The Na'vi getting their sacred tree burned down with loss of life not tragic enough for you? The battle scenes alone make Endor look like midgets in teddy bear costumes throwing rocks. ;)
Problem is, we're not little kids like when many of us saw Star Wars. The possibility existed in our minds back then the bad guys *could* win. As jaded adults we know that's not going to happen, because Hollywood likes making money.
Star Wars actually bucked a trend towards bleak depressing films, which might be why it seemed so fresh at the time. It also helped that the 70's sucked, and people craved an escape into a world they hadn't seen or experienced before. Avatar has tapped into the same need for temporary escape from the outside world for a while, in spite of any flaws.
Mind you, I only saw the movie once so far, but I recall the main guy is Jake Sully, his blue lady friend is Nateri(?) and Sigourney Weaver's character was called Grace. I'm bad with names though. I thought Vader's first name was Garth for a while! ;)
Nobody in 1977 save George knew there would be another one though. I heard many of the same complaints back then. Phrases like "carboard cutout characters" and "junk food for the mind" were tossed around a lot.
Now that the movie has made so much cash, I'm waiting for the inevitable "I worked on the biggest film of the year, and therefore deserve more money that I was paid at the time" tabloid crap that was pulled with Star Wars. ;)
They said that about Star Wars too. ;)
http://movies.yahoo.com/news/movies.ap.org/avatar-passes-star-wars-with-4918m-us-ap
I wonder if George will take out another ad congratulating Cameron?
And yeah, I know, adjusted for inflation and all that, SW is still ahead. :)
Falling in love is a no-no, but cheap one night stands with hot alien chicks is okay? Wow!
How about splicing in some sandworms from DUNE? ;)
Looks like the Darkwing and Ducktales pilots were released on Laserdisc uncut.
http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/04718/1633-AS/Darkwing-Duck-#1:-Darkly-Dawns-the-Duck/Birth-of-Negaduck!-%281991%29
http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/35343/WD088L-19041/DuckTales:-Treasure-of-the-Golden-Suns-%281987%29
This topic needs to be moved to the preservation forum though. :)
Baronlando said:
That's the real question: before 2004 they could have done anything they want with it, but did they give Lucas some kind of control in exchange for Lucas paying for the restoration and the new effects? (a pretty expensive proposition for a fairly obscure movie). Warner didn't include the theatrical versions of Big Red One or Pat Garrett when they did those new versions even though they could have, so maybe there's hope. (that the absence of both cuts on the dvd wasn't necessarily an indication of Lucas control)
Every airing of THX on Turner Classic Movies in the past couple years has been the new version. I got a bad feeling about this...
I found out over at the HTF that it's out as an Amazon exclusive. It's one of those DVD-R things the studios are pushing on us for obscure titles. But at least it's available now.
Octorox said:
pittrek said:
Octorox said:
How would you transition into the opening credits with the Klingon capture scene? Maybe after Spock's birth?
8) Vulcan bullies (can there be bullies on a planet whose inhabitants are purely logical ???)
Remember that Vulcan's aren't vowed to purge all emotion until Kohlinar (probably butchered the spelling) Vulcans choose to embrace logic but are very emotional inside. The Vulcan kids are kids. In a TOS episode Amanda said that Spock was teased frequently as a child (Journey to Babel I think)
And the animated episode "Yesteryear" actually showed young Spock being bullied. I was bummed we didn't see his pet Sehlat in the movie!
At least until we find out what horrors other variety shows in Europe tortured their viewers with! ;)
Methinks CNN is being punked by some very clever trolls. After all, the movie was being bashed online months before it even came out. None of the people being quoted have been interviewed in person. This is no better than some of the negative crap the National Enquirer ran about Star Wars back in the day. Overwhelming success like this inevitably leads to a backlash.
The crowd I saw it with Monday night seemed to be having a good time.
And how the hell did that guy in the photo sneak a whole pizza into a movie theater?!
Battle Beyond the Stars would be a good source for FX shots, not to mention it's music score. Roger Corman got a lot of mileage out of reusing both in other movies!
Those "experts" would do well to remember a string of really bad 3D movies is one of the factors that caused them to die out by the end of the '50's and in the '80's. (That and bad projection.) And not every film is going to benefit from this process either. "My Dinner with Andre" in 3D, is just not going to work!
For the right projects, it can be just another tool filmmakers sometimes use. Cinemascope, color, and stereophonic sound were once regarded as gimmicks too.
This could also really revive the adult film industry! :P
Oh my god! I didn't think anything could top the dancing stormtroopers on Donnie and Marie. Sounds like they used a remix of MECO's disco single.
I also think my head exploded.
I think one of the early pan and scan versions squeezed the '81 crawl to be more legible on tv. I can't recall if it's a CBS/FOX release, or the alternate P&S version HBO and other cable outlets ran back in the day.
Could more resolution be squeezed out of that, even if it's from an old betamax tape? The 1983 Laserdisc may be squeezed too, but there's that pesky time compression they used on the transfer.
With the changes noticed in the recent HD broadcasts of Raiders, I'd be interested to know if Lucasfilm is sneaking anything new into these.
Vaderisnothayden said:
SilverWook said:
That's a pretty good point, zombie84! I don't think even the Marvel comics in between films ever specified the location of Jabba's base of operations. And Lucasfilm was keeping an eye on those if only to make sure they didn't unintentionally do a plotline similar to the sequels.
The story in the Marvel comics was the search for Solo. They were looking for Han because they didn't know where he was.
I meant to refer to the years between SW and Empire. Han ran afoul of Jabba a couple times during this era of the comic.
That's a pretty good point, zombie84! I don't think even the Marvel comics in between films ever specified the location of Jabba's base of operations. And Lucasfilm was keeping an eye on those if only to make sure they didn't unintentionally do a plotline similar to the sequels.
Sluggo said:
doubleofive said:
He hates sand?
;-P
I don't blame him. It is coarse and rough and it gets everywhere.
Anyone else feel that the Jabba's palace sequence was just an excuse to revisit the Cantina experience from Star Wars as well as an excuse to throw a wacky musical number in the middle of a space opera?
The "Star Wars to Jedi" documentary makes Lucas' desire to redo the cantina scene perfectly clear.
Before there was DTS sound, as it also says before "DVNR" and "ANH", referring to digital video noise reduction and the "A New Hope" title.
And the SE did indeed have a DTS track. I saw it presented that way, and a set of theatrical DTS CD's have popped up on Ebay more than once.