SilverWook

All I saw was the message "I will leave it for someone else", apparently edited half an hour after it was posted. Sorry if I didn't see your original message while posting the 31 screencaps. I was trying to give a good sampling of various scenes in the film, (while avoiding any nudity that might offend or get them deleted) and show the mystery fleck.

Still awaiting a reply from the Japanese LD seller as well.

Bingowings said:

They are nice passages to be sure and I'd chuck The Emperor's Theme and Jabba's Theme in there for good measure but as a score (rather than an album of music) it does at times feel like the film itself.

Star Warsy enough to get away with it for a few listenings but largely a re-hash of the greatest hits so far.

For example the use of the TIE fighter cue from Here They Come in the sail barge sequence makes no musical sense at all and smacks at 'I need a bit of flurry here...oh I'll stick that bit in from the first film, even though I will later use it in the correct context later in the film'.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IPBifsaU4U

Given their current financial woes, MGM can't afford to drop their vacation photos off at Walmart these days. ;)

Indeed it was. I didn't even know it was out on Blu already!

If John Carpenter's Dark Star ever gets a BluRay release, (a new remastered DVD is coming out this year) we might find out how good 16mm can look in HD.

Funny you should mention that, Anchorhead. On another forum where discussion of a possible fifth Indy film is ongoing, someone expressed their feelings that the sequence leads directly into Indy stealing the cross from it's "rightful owner" when he grows up, and murdering people in the process. I've been pondering if they're right or not.

I wish we had an Indy forum on here sometimes!

captainsolo said:

No. ESB was and still is amazing. ROTJ was a letdown yes, but not that bad at all.

I would only for a few obvious reasons (GODDAMN MIDICHLORIANS!) but primarily for the Holiday Special, and Howard the Duck.

I hate to burst your bubble, but a movie adaptation of the comic book would have happened with or without Lucas. ;)

I have an old horror mag around somewhere with an early interview with Stan Winston, circa '81 or '82, and there was a photo of his prototype duck suit that looks more like the comic version of Howard.

I saw a interesting segment on Turner Classic movies today. It mentioned how the only known 16mm copy to exist of a film noir was used for restoration.

http://www.tcm.com/mediaroom/index/?cid=345629

It's too bad Richard Marquand isn't around to tell his side of things.

I guess we may never know how much George was actually backseat directing, unless someone else comes forward and spills the beans.

Easterhay said:

Did we have IMAX in 1983?

 

The Smithsonian Air and Space museum had IMAX since it opened in the mid 70's. It was impractical to run 35mm feature length films in IMAX venues until this past decade though.

What I meant was the effect at the particular theater I saw Jedi at was IMAX like in the way the screen filled out my field of vision. (Sitting in the sweet spot in the balcony, something modern crackerbox theaters lack.) It made the Speeder Bike chase more intense for me than it has ever been since!

Baronlando said:

Sequels were made and watched in a very different way back then. Everyone has a raging boner for continuity and tonal consistency now, but it just didn't matter as much to the average, non-starlog reader. That's why it was ok for James Bond to meet Blofeld in one movie and then meet him again in the very next. It just wasn't a big deal. 

I think the shift in sequel-making mentality might have begun after Temple of Doom was so deliberately, gleefully, different in tone than Raiders and people got all pissed.

Having watched all the Bonds up to "For Your Eyes Only" in chronological order, there's a tad more continuity hidden in there than you'd think.

I was so excited to see it on opening day, any flaws didn't catch up with me until later. (Front row balcony center during speeder bike scene=IMAX!) I've been through a love/hate thing with the Ewoks over the years, and currently like them more than I like Jar Jar. ;)

They had the potential to be vicious little furry bastards, but noooooo!

There was some criticism in print at the time. SF author Norman Spinrad wrote a pretty harsh review in Starlog magazine that got a lot of fanboy hate mail. He might have also been the one who first suggested Lucas ripped off H. Beam Piper's "Fuzzy" novels for the Ewoks.

One of the other Starlog columnists later spoofed the whole controversy with a cartoon depicting Spinrad frozen in Carbonite.

Very nice indeed!

Did you take any pics of the ending? That's where the visual differences from the 70mm are supposed to be.

It's definitely a from a U.S. source as the MPAA rating tag is there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6lzEhoXads

A far too brief glimpse of a 1984 Editdroid demo, using footage from ROTJ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27hVFq2RB1w

The Blue Harvest situation is hopeful.

No problem, rsortor.  Jaxxon was a bit dismayed, but I bought him a carrot cake, and everything is fine now.

I've been tracking these things since 2006, (by keeping the Ebay auctions bookmarked long after the listings are gone) and this is likely only the fourth time an ESB 16mm print has popped up.

In the future, your connections at that forum might be very useful. :)

But which logo did he score, the WB or American Zoetrope one? Can you time it to the DC?

There ought to be a way to degrade the logo a bit to fit in better. Play it out of an old DVD player set for a non-anamorphic tv and record it to tape perhaps? I'm still analog in my thinking. ;)

I found out how to contact the LDDB seller, and sent him an email. Cross your fingers!

You're welcome.

I found some Japanese copies for sale over at the LDDB, but there seems to be no way to contact the seller to ask about the transfers.

One website with comparison shots allegedly used the PAL disc, which has the same fleck in the same spot. So either it was burned into the print used, or they did an NSTC to PAL conversion, which seems unusual.

I was also thinking it would be nice to restore the proper WB logo for the era. The LD has the usual 90's logo plastered on. One thing the DVD got right was to use this...

This is actually from the Dirty Harry DVD, but I believe it's the same logo I saw on the Director's cut. Maybe I should have held onto it. ;)

Somebody here does know where the Ebay print ended up. See above...

Because we don't need mangy CGI mutant baboons in our 1970's SF films. ;)

I sincerely hope nobody is on dial-up!

The fleck is gone, and the chase is on!

Here's where the infamous mystery fleck appears, and is stuck in the frame for several minutes!