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DuracellEnergizer said:

ray_afraid said:

I watch the original series on METV on Saturday nights. They air the "remastered" versions with the cgi effects though. It bugs me. I've never seen the originals, but every time I see an unaltered clip, it looks so much cooler than the boring new shots! So much more style going on!

I know what you mean. The only un-remastered episode I've been able to see within recent memory has been "The Cage". =(

I don't mind the revamped effects -- unlike the changes with the SEs, they don't ruin the universe or take me out of the viewing experience -- but it would be nice for me to see the original versions as they were when first broadcast.

 You can pick the the early two episode DVD releases pretty cheap on Ebay these days. Was watching a couple the other night, and they still look good, especially compared to what I saw on tv as a kid. :)

pittrek said:

Thanks guys, especially for the memory alpha link.

The reason why I asked was that I've seen this video today : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA8D5lK8guE

Even in her current state she's still beautiful. I wish I could see her in person again.

ILM did the same thing once there were Star Wars model kits on the market. ;)

doubleofive said:

The pilot Enterprise had a larger bridge module, larger deflector dish, solid red spiked nacelle caps, and holes in back of the nacelles. When they got picked up, they upgraded the model to have lighting, so they ended up changing all that. So there are really only two versions, they just used the pilot version in the series if they had a stock shot of it doing what they needed it to do that week.

They also used a few AMT model kits, but that's beside the point.

 AFAIK, they only used the AMT kits for The Doomsday Machine to represent the wrecked USS Constellation. (The one exception might be the Enterprise as seen through the K-7 office windows in The Trouble With Tribbles.) Funny how scorching a model with a cricket lighter to simulate hull damage was a technique used well into the TNG era!

pittrek said:

A completely random question - does anybody here know ALL the variations of the Enterprise NCC 1701 model? I mean I know the original Cage model had those spiky things on the front of the nacelles, then sometimes they changed the back part of the nacelles (in some shots they looked like lightbulbs, in others completely different) and of course they built a completely new model for the movies, but does anybody know what changes and when were done to the original model? I noticed only the changes on both sides of the nacelles, but I think there were more of them

 They continued to use stock footage of the model even after changes were made to her. Not to mention the three foot version was often used for certain shots. A shame it's still missing.

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Constitution_class_model_%28original%29

When I was a kid, I rationalized that the "bulbs" pop out when the ship is in orbit for some reason. ;)

The mother of all turntables.

http://www.elpj.com/

Wish I could afford it. ;)

DrCrowTStarwars said:

Yeah unless the skit has Phil Hartman in it, I don't care about it.

 http://youtu.be/8h16WBTtgR0

These alleged plot leaks are all bupkis until we see some more footage anyway. ;)

The show was a disaster area after Lorne Michaels and what was left of the original cast departed, but even those desolate years gave us the likes of Eddie Murphy. Back when he was truly funny. ;)

I'm hoping some of the 40th anniversary hoopla translates into more seasons being released on DVD.

DuracellEnergizer said:

SNL's been lame for decades.

 If I had a nickel for every time I've heard that since 1980! ;)

bkev said:

Really?  I thoroughly enjoyed it.  My only problem was the musical numbers fell flat (outside of Marty and Bobbi and Bill Murray).

I died at Celebrith Jeopardy, but that's always been a favorite of mine.

 "Suck it, Trebek!" I wonder if they ever tried to get Connery to host? ;)

I forgot about this and only caught the last hour. The memorial tribute was touching and surprising. (Was all the bad blood between SNL and Andy Kaufman just a put on?) Not to mention one heck of a fake out at the end.

Did Mr. Bill put in an appearance?

I wonder how accurate that list really is. I saw Jedi on opening day in Ventura California, and I can't think of any theater there that was ever called the Metropolitan. There were only three theaters operating in town at the time.

I do recall some black and white Warner Bros. cartoons being colorized, (mostly early Porky Pig shorts) well before the 80's. The color versions were less detailed than the originals I finally saw much later, so perhaps they simply traced over the original footage.

Even though it was done in the 80's, I think the colorized Fleischer Bros. era Popeye's were done in a non digital way as well. They couldn't deal with the intricate "live" three dimensional backgrounds some of the shorts had at all. I doubt those color versions are shown on tv anymore, but they were real abominations.

Another one you could add to the list is Team America. The full frame version has more info at the top and bottom of the frame, yet stuff is cropped at the sides. Darn you, Super 35! ;)

I totally forgot all about that thread.

I don't think Disney's movie moratoriums mean as much as they did in the days of VHS. It's not that difficult to find used DVD's. Star Wars was on video by the time ROTJ came out. Enterprising fans were watching the VHS while in line!

Trek isn't even on tv as much as it used to be. Unless you get certain cable channels like BBC America, you won't see it at all. We're far removed from the days when TNG and DS9 were both running, and you had a Trek feature film in theaters while a series was still in production.

Trek's 50th anniversary could be a big event, if Paramount doesn't screw it up.

Huh, I was always under the impression colorization was a digital process through and through. Tv Guide even added the disclaimer "color added by computer" to denote colorized films in their listings back in the 80's.

Did someone just quote Independence Day? ;)

Leonardo said:

I've spent the last half hour looking up old commercials from my childhood on Youtube.

These were on tv when I was 5, 6, 7 years old. We're talking 1993, 1994, 1995.

I am in shock at how many of these ads I can remember watching. Or rather, I'll see the thing now and realize I have a trace of a memory, or I'll remember the music, or certain lines will suddenly come back to me and I'll remember repeating them.

To put things in context, I look at my childhood as a forgotten time, so far removed from me it might as well been another person. It was me, and some of that guy still lives, but much has changed.

It kind of frightens me..... how much information can a human brain retain?? By the looks of it, some of these memories never leave you. Yet, I've forgotten many, many things that I'm sure are far more important than stupid commercials!

And it really bothers me... how much tv did I watch as a youngster??? (answer: a lot, I'm sure. I never socialized as a kid, never got out of the house)

Most of my memories from childhood are a void. All I remember is television and vhs tapes. My grandpa died in 1995 and I don't remember spending time with him. It makes me sick.

 You probably saw those commercials dozens of times at the very least. Their repetition is designed to make them stick in one's memory. Ad agencies had this down to a science well before the 1990's.

Do you have photos or anything else of your grandfather? Sometimes that's all you need to trigger a memory. I think most early memories before 5 or 6 gets a little fuzzy once you reach adulthood. We're not computers after all.

Can we please limit our Nazi discussions to the following? ;)

You could put a little sound effect behind Palpy's spinning. ;)

http://youtu.be/4eDaWYMrOcY

European cinema went way past anything 50 Shades could possibly get away with decades ago. ;)

LOL! That is genius! Reminds me of those interactive Laserdisc mystery games.

Looks like the forthcoming new Peanuts film finally got these released. Seems like it's DVD only, alas...

http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Charlie-Brown-Peanuts-Specials-Race-For-Your-Life-Charlie-Brown/20477

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/14/arts/television/gary-owens-announcer-on-laugh-in-dies-at-80.html?_r=0

Some of you are probably too young to recall Laugh In, but you've probably heard Gary Owens' voice at some point.

Given that he was the original voice of Space Ghost, Adult Swim ought to pay him tribute.