SilverWook

There have been a few. Some are having password rest issues.

$120 million opening take, if anybody’s counting.

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/cotown/la-et-ct-star-wars-force-awakens-saturday-box-office-20151219-story.html

Dare we hope TFA will dethrone that Dances With Smurfs movie? 😉

I think seeing the movie at different venues is a must. I’ve been burned by poorly maintained sound systems before.

When I saw ROTS, the soundtrack was terrible and might have even been mono. Had it not required climbing over people at the time, I would have complained. When I saw it at a dollar theater at the end of summer, it was a different story.

DuracellEnergizer said:

RicOlie_2 said:

Well, someone’s quick to judge. I reserve judgement on the movie until I see it, and I’m expecting it to be far better than the prequels.

More power to you, but “better than the prequels” isn’t enough to cut the mustard for me anymore.

How about the fact generalfrevious likes it? 😉

m_s0 said:

I hate the new forum.

Please do not beat that horse again. And definitely don’t beat it in here. The situation has been explained elsewhere. And frankly, I’m sick of having to rehash it.

Yoda Is Your Father said:

SilverWook said:

As I’ve said elsewhere, the galaxy is in Cold War type situation at the beginning. The Resistance is fighting the good fight, and the Republic is looking the other way, yet supporting them in secret. (Yes, it’s the worst kept secret in the galaxy, but that’s politics for you.) As that sure looked like Coruscant getting vaporized, things have changed drastically.

It’s a good answer, and it goes some way to making sense of it all, so thanks.

But why would they look the other way? The Galactic Empire was awful, whole systems celebrated when it was overthrown. Wouldn’t everybody want to stop the First Order before history repeats itself.

And I don’t mean stop them by supporting a small band of rebels/resistance. I mean go at them, full pelt, and STOP THEM.

I can only presume the same sort of idiots who believed a silver tongued guy like Palpatine pre Episode III thought The First Order could be appeased, or would be content to stay in it’s own sectors. (Plenty of real world examples of this.) The Rebellion might have even been dismantled by the new Republic government. Or dumb enough to sign non agression pacts with the First Order. That Leia and Ackbar seem to be running the Resistance speaks to diplomacy not really working.

As I’ve said elsewhere, the galaxy is in Cold War type situation at the beginning. The Resistance is fighting the good fight, and the Republic is looking the other way, yet supporting them in secret. (Yes, it’s the worst kept secret in the galaxy, but that’s politics for you.) As that sure looked like Coruscant getting vaporized, things have changed drastically.

And Han’s death got spoiled for me twice. Once when I accidentally clicked on new tweets updating the OT twitter account, and again when some dumbass blurted it out in a chatroom that had absolutely nothing to do with Star Wars. So many arms that need pulling out of their sockets. 😉

I’m in shock over frevious’ reaction myself.

And I’ve seen some foaming at the mouth negative reactions on twitter. They lose street cred when they curse at bad robot’s account though. Being a potty mouth doesn’t make you clever. 😉

hydrospanner said:

Anyone else catch the Bespin corridor shot during Rey’s vision?

That was the only part I recognized. Nice touch.

I thought I saw a Padawan from ROTS getting killed too.

I had a feeling that was the case. With a Han Solo movie in the works they were going to need a new Chewie eventually. That it was seamless, means the new guy learned from the master Wook.

IIRC, Wookiee life debts can be transferred, or a new one can be forged. Rey because Han thought she was important, (and she knows her way around the Falcon) and Finn because he treated Chewie’s injuries.

Wookiees are also supposed to be Force sensitive. So Rey must light up like a Christmas tree.

It’s always been sensory overload with Star Wars. I’m amazed I recall as much of it as I do right now. 😃

Mrebo said:

hydrospanner said:

TK428 said:

So here’s my question since we aren’t 100% sure if Rey is Luke’s daughter.

a) Rey is the daughter of Luke Skywalker.
b) Rey is the daughter of Leia & Han and we weren’t told yet.
c) Rey is the offspring of someone else.

I am leaning towards A or C being the most likely. She spent half the movie with Han so if B were the case he either didn’t know it was his daughter he had found or for some reason kept it concealed. Han and Leia talk about their son quite a bit, with no mention of a daughter.

In the flashback they showed her being left on Jakku as a very small child… so this would have presumably been before Kylo turned to the dark side and killed all the Jedi, so she likely wouldn’t have been hidden from Kylo unless they are brother and sister but end up not being twins and she is in fact several years younger.

I think A is probably the most likely… why is she drawn towards a lightsaber that based on what we know now has only been used by people with the Skywalker name. With her being the one to find Luke after he has vanished for so long it sure seems they are setting it up that way.

Also recall Kylo looks into her mind and sees an island. Some rationale in Luke leaving her on a desert planet, to keep her safe, the same kind of planet he grew up on. Although I question the care she was left in.

I’ve been wondering about that. The person who was supposed to look after her could have died over the years though. (Scavenging old space ship hulks is a dangerous profession.) Could Max Von Sydow’s character been keeping an eye on her at a distance?

If there are multiple sound mixes for the movie, some here are going to go crazy trying to document them! 😉

I didn’t see a trailer in front of TFA. There weren’t as many trailers as I was expecting though. It must vary from theater chain to chain.

lovelikewinter said:

I saw it Thurs night at 7:30 and again last night with my dad. I really liked it. The biggest thing that is did to fix the flaws of the Prequels was characterization and chemistry among the new people. Poe was my favorite, but I’m partial to X-Wing pilots. Maz was a cool addition, and her place seemed more like a pub/old fashioned inn vs a bar. My favorite line from her was calling Chewie her boyfriend.

I was very resistant to Luke only having one scene, but Mark Hamill managed to do more with one look than Hayden Christensen did with two whole movies.

Props to them for getting Ackbar’s voice actor back. That is a perfect example how much care and appreciation was put into making the movie.

Was it perfect? No. However, I care about those characters and I really want to see what happens to them next. As part one of three, thats the most important thing.

They did get Ackbar’s voice actor back? Props to them if they did. I was hoping they would since he resurfaced in that interview a few months back, and you don’t even have to be in the same place to do a dubbing session these days.

I liked Maz too. Kind of like Yoda and Gunian from Star Trek TNG combined. I hope she comes back.

And yeah, Mark was wonderful without saying a word. 😃

pittrek said:

I just came from the movie theatre. I hated TFA less than any of the prequels. Unfortunately I have no idea what the movie was about. Not sure if it’s because I’ve seen a dubbed version and something was lost in the translation, but I seriously can’t understand what did I just watch.

• What was the New Order? Who exactly are they and what’s they’re position in the movie Universe? Are they at the same level as the Empire? I though so at the beginning, but then they say something about a New Republic. So what are they - some kind of a cult? Because they seem to have lots of resources and a good military. Can anybody please explain me what are the positions of the New Order and the New Republic in the “chain of command” of the universe?

• Who are now the stormtroopers? OK, they’re definitely no longer the clones of that Australian guy, because our hero is a black guy. So are they volunteerly in the army? So why did the guy desert his army? And I noticed they actually mentioned clone troopers but again - who’s the army of the picture?

• What was the BFG of the movie? You know, the new Death Star? Was it a planet? Or a big space station? Because it had trees and stuff. And aparently its own atmosphere.

• Also - why was the new Death Star in the movie? It was stupid, pointless and had nothing to do with the story, it feels like the only reason they put it to the story was so that they can blow it up and have a “cool” action sequence.

• Who was the story villain? Were it the uniform guys? Or was that just one uniform guy? Cause one of them seemed really important, he yelled at the stormtroopers in the trailer shot. ANd there was also one uniform guy who reported to the CG guy together with the Vader wannabe. Or was the Vader wannabe the villain ? I guess so, cause he killed Han Solo. Also, should it be a great reveal that he’s Han and Leia’s son? If so, why did they tell it in the beginning in the discussion between the CG guy and the DV wannabe? Or is the villain the CG guy? I thought that Abrams and Kasdan know that “less is more”.

• Was Chewie CG? Seriously, every time he was on screen I could only thing about the fact that he looks CG.

• What relationship should the girl and the black guy have? They have absolutely no chemistry together, but suddenly they hug and kiss. Should they be in love or just friends?

My impressions : the first part of the movie, when it’s a mix of 2 personal stories of a guy who doesn’t want to kill people and a girl who is trying to make some money so that she can buy food is really, really good. The second part of the movie, when it’s a story about trying to run away from the New Order and find Luke Skywalker is really good. Then it suddenly feels like we switched to a poorly executed fan remake of the Death Star battle, this part is a horrible mess and I’m not sure what it was about.

So I don’t know, I’m glad I’ve seen it but I don’t really know if I want to see it again.

PS BB8 was GREAT !

The impression I got is the Resistance is a covert army fighting the New Order on behalf of the Republic, they don’t publicly sanction the Resistance, but are probably funding them secretly. It’s the worst kept secret of the Cold War era the galaxy is in a the beginning of the film. The New Order is the splintered remains of the old Empire regrouped and reformed under the leadership of this Snoke guy.

New Order troopers are kids indoctrinated when very young. This is mentioned when the bad guys discuss Finn’s defection. (We even see Finn’s personnel file with a photo of him as a child.) Clones are merely mentioned as a lament for the good old days. It was Finn’s first mission, so seeing innocents massacred made him question his loyalties.

We had multiple villains in Star Wars before. Snoke is the new Emperor, Kylo Ren is trying to walk in Vader’s footsteps. Phamsa is the new Boba Fett, in that she’s mysterious. Everyone else is either a Tarkin or a Admiral Piett. They aren’t going to survive more than two movies.

I did think a lot of the New Order officers wandered in off the set of Raiders though. 😉

Asking the bad guys in the Star Wars universe not to hollow out a planet into a massive superweapon is like asking nations on Earth not to want to build nuclear tipped missiles.

Chewie’s fur is a little different, as he’s a little older now. I don’t think he’s CG. Fur is hard to render. If Peter Mayhew’s stand in did the heavy lifting in the movie, he’s been studying the Wookiee master well, as Chewie acted like Chewie.

generalfrevious said:

I saw TFA last night, and I thought it was pretty good. Definitely far better than the prequels, although not as great as the original trilogy. But I like how Abrams took elements from the OT and made them into something new, which to be fair, what what the first Star Wars movie did back in '77.
Bottom line, can’t wait for Episode VIII to come out

Frevious liked the movie? There is a Santa Claus! 😃

Alderaan said:

This is another small thing that annoyed me. In the trailer there is a shot of the X-wing flying behind a TIE-fighter and blasting it to pieces, and you can actually hear the laser blasts and impact damage. Was I mistaken that in the movie there was no sound? Was it just loud obnoxious score, or am I misremembering?

Trailers rarely reflect the final sound mix of a film.

hydrospanner said:

Would have been nice to see some ships on the resistance side besides just the x-wings. They could have finally showed some b-wings in action or included some new ship models we haven’t seen before alongside them.

There was the transport ship that Leia arrived in. The Resistance base seemed like a smaller outpost than the Rebel bases we saw in the OT. I doubt the majority of the fleet was there. Probably a bad idea to have all your ships in one location anymore.

Mock the man who played Ming the Merciless at your own peril! 😉

I do find it interesting this is the second time he’s died on a desert planet.

At least the Boba Fett rumor was completely bogus.

Did someone just diss the acting ability of Max Von Sydow? 😉

DuracellEnergizer said:

I’ve already seen Ren’s lightsaber in the trailers and teasers. I don’t need to see the entire movie to know I hate the design and always will.

Good luck removing the damage the side blades cause then. 😉

And anybody who hasn’t seen the movie, if you’re thinking about stinking up the thread. Think twice!

kt7000 said:

This is my only two cents on it.
For any SW enthusiast, this was a film where the creators already knew how to make it “visually” appealing with enough Eye Candy and Hype scenes; but for every other logic sensible person watching it, there was really just nothing special about the story (I have own my two cents on that but that’s a whole other thread).

In a similar manner to the PT, just give it a couple of months/years after the hype dies down to where people’ll start seeing it for what it “really” is to where the faneditors have to step in to fix it.

Some of us had issues with the prequels opening day.

And logical sensible people had similar complaints in 1977 too. 😉

Duracell, kindly see the movie first. 😉

Still captured at the time.