Would everybody please chill out? Temp bans are on the table if certain people don’t improve their attitude.
And Duracell, if you haven’t seen the movie yet, posting in this thread could be misconstrued as trolling.
For all we know, The Emperor had S/M sessions and tortured Vader half to death off camera during the years in between movies.
Not the mental image I needed today. 😉
In case some of you haven’t Robot Chicken’s take on Emmet Otter yet. 😉
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL2hpZsIzdQ
I’m was actually expecting them to do something with the Nightmare Band though.
The ROTJ thread is that a way. 😉
I didn’t think Finn stuck around long enough to have his blaster checked to prove the suspicion he didn’t fire?
No other Star Wars character will ever generate the amount of loathing Mr. Binks has endured since 1999.
Aren’t you forgetting Phasma’s suspicion that Finn balked at carrying out orders set his decision to flee in motion?
I didn’t notice it. Another thing to watch out for the second time around.
I used to think RotJ was my all time favorite. Over time, I came to appreciate Empire Strikes Back more than ever. The way Lucas suddenly wanted Irvin Kershner to step off in favor of a director that would do Lucas’s bidding is pretty low. More toys were necessary over the quality of the story as it goes. It became a point in time for Star Wars where Lucas no longer saw interest in collaboration. It also suffers from steering away his original take on how scenes should move along in a quicker pace. First half really makes it jarring to join with the second half. And even the second half of the film, before the real action picks up, suffers with bad pacing too. Neither of these issues appear in A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back. I personally may find A New Hope slightly ‘boring’, but that’s due to what I feel is a slow buildup, which isn’t really a fault and is different from Return of the Jedi’s Frankensteined editing job.
As cool as that Death Star II was, the more I think about it, it’s quite silly. Not because it’s something from A New Hope rehashed, but because the buildup to it isn’t threatening. It’s only used for sniping Rebel cruisers and never on planets. Damn, Star Destroyers could do that with that many of them.STILL! I actually really do like Return of the Jedi. I have yet to see such a timeless and thrilling space battle. It captures a sense of urgency while keeping the action in focus and it flows nice for the viewer to keep up. Luke and Vader’s last duel is also the most emotional Star Wars duel in the history of Star Wars. Towards the end, Williams swelling piece of music really makes this confrontation impactful again and again.
It’s more complicated than that. The Director’s Guild of America suddenly complained about Kershner’s name not being at the beginning of the movie, insisting it had to be there. Lucas refused to break with the style he set with the original film, (which AFAIK the DGA had no issues with) paid the hefty fine imposed upon him and quit the DGA.
This severely limited who he could hire for Jedi. It was a dumb pissing contest on both sides, and plenty of other movies have had the director’s credit at the end before and since, but the damage was done. it’ the likely reason Spielberg never got to direct an episode, (he really wanted to) and George ended up directing all the prequels himself.
Understandable.
I’ll just have to go back to rummaging through Frink’s garbage cans again. 😉
To me, it kinda felt like “well, we have to put a Cantina scene in the movie.” It felt shoehorned in and not necessary. Maz could’ve been based anywhere, really. Didn’t have to be a bar.
Not huge things, but I also wasn’t really a fan of 1) First Order spies being there, 2) a Resistance spy being there, and 3) Finn seeking transport with a couple guys like Ben and Luke were trying to do in ANH.
A seedy den crawling with spies for both sides was a thing when sound movies were new.
We might get a Casablanca planet in Star Wars yet.
As Lucas enjoyed nearly universal goodwill from fans, (and still did for many years afterward) and at the time this was proclaimed “the end” of the saga, (IIRC, the first time George publicly hinted returning to Star Wars was in 1987) people were more forgiving then they are now.
There really wasn’t much in the way of negative critique of ROTJ until the 90’s. (And the rise of the internet.) Norman Spinrad’s review in Starlog back in '83 did generate some controversy. Enough to inspire a cartoon that later appeared in the magazine, depicting Spinrad frozen in carbonite.
Saying Maz’s bar is a cantina ripoff is like saying Applebee’s is a knockoff of TGI Fridays. A bar filled with aliens is going to be pretty much the same wherever you go in the SW universe. The sort of people Han usually deals with aren’t going to hang out at the GFFA version of Chuck E. Cheese’s. 😉
Sleazy dives are more interesting than the Buffalo Wild Wings Anakin and Obi Wan visited in AOTC, or Dex’s diner.
More than one clueless reviewer thought Dune was lifting from Star Wars at the time. I could only shake my head and laugh. And I’ve never read the book.
I am surprised Lucas got away with references to spice. Whoever had the movie rights to Dune at the time could have sued, if only to draw attention to their project.
I wonder if Max Von Sydow was having Dune flashbacks on the TFA set?
Someone should suggest that to TMBTM. 😃
The real question is if they’ll actually call him Plageuis, or if he’ll just make some vague comment about having trained Palpatine.
Either way, I won’t really mind if it’s dealt with in the proper fashion.But if he actually is Plageuis, why the whole Knights of Ren thing? Isn’t Plageuis supposed to be a Sith?
Kylo could have formed his band of knights before meeting Snoke. As we only see them in the Force vision, do we even know these guys are still alive?
That Snoke likes to appear as a 50 foot hologram, (and Kylo apparently is the only one we know that’s met him in person) makes me wonder if he’s pulling a Balok.
And we have our first member named for a sequel character, I think?
I know of Universal’s tendency to pour DNR all over an innocent film. Just hadn’t heard anything bad about the Dune Blu Ray.
I was recently made aware of a two disc Blu Ray containing the theatrical and tv cut released in Europe. No idea if it’s a better or different transfer though. There’s even a 3D conversion over there!
LOL!
I wasn’t aware Frink had started work on The Ridiculous Awakens already? 😉
As for Leia and Chewie not consoling each other: I took as Chewie not realizing Leia already knew Han was dead. I thought maybe it was too difficult for Chewie to bring himself to tell her. Put yourself in Chewie’s shoes. If your best friend died, would it be easy for you to be the one to tell his/her spouse? As for Chewie taking off with Rey to find to Luke, I had no problem with it. Even with Han dead, Chewie would still want to do his duty.
This is honestly the BEST answer I’ve seen for this criticism. I never could quite pinpoint why Chewie didn’t, but after reading this, I fully back this.
Not bad as far as imaginary justifications go, but this still isn’t visible onscreen, and ultimately this would only be satisfactory if it was referenced or constructed in some way in extended footage or the next movie. If Leia knows there’s something to console Rey about, she knows there is definitely something to console Chewie about.
My guess is that it was a not-exactly-successful attempt to show that “Leia knows something”. So fine, maybe we will see exactly what in the next film. But the aggregate is still that whether we are discussing Leia and Chewie or some other events succeeding Han’s death, the effect of his death was really flat onscreen. Which sucked because he proved himself compelling for the entire prior part of the film. I’m not demanding a ten minute funeral scene or something, I’m just saying that we needed to see way more emotional fallout, somehow.
And I stand by the following that I wrote earlier, just because it would be cool and expand Chewbacca’a character:
Chewbacca should for the most part leave the rebellion as a consistent soldier and become a sort of bounty hunter specializing in collecting sith heads, or if that is too NC-17, then sith lightsabers, which Luke or Rey or Finn modify to produce white, blue, or green blades. Chewie can show up at some point in a room that everyone is in and drop an armload of sith lightsabers onto a table while everyone in the room stares at them and goes pale. The modified lightsabers can be given to new jedis in training, and the combo of sith hardware and jedi colors can be a small symbol of the light and dark sides beginning to find balance.
And Chewie’s look should definitely change to reflect his state, maybe more weapons, dirtier fur. Maybe some of the war leaders on Kashyyyk could be used as stylistic references as well, for cultural consistency.
It’s been done already. 😉
Phil Tippet and recreating the Holochess creatures.
https://vimeo.com/149357656
I miss the ability to tell if a sent PM has actually been opened by the recipient.
Did Universal screw up again? I’ve only watched the HD DVD and that looked all right to me.
I was the one who had the Lumpy all grown up theory many moons ago.
He’s middle aged as Wookiee lifespans go. Chewie could have had a dye job though. Maz did say he was her boyfriend. 😉
I thought had a kryptonite ring in case Superman went rogue. I never heard of Batman having a kryptonite gun. Yeah, I know Batmobile had guns in the 1989 movie, that was wrong too. Batman doesn’t use guns. I suppose it could have been a grappling hook. That would ok.
I’m probably thinking of one of the animated series. Bruce does like to be prepared.
I have owned two small chunks of Kyptonite since 1978, as you never know when General Zod is going to knock on your door. I should probably keep them in a locked lead box or something. 😉
Lando’s Angels? I like that idea! 😉