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SilverWook

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Post
#1049787
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

Warbler said:

SilverWook said:

Warbler said:

SilverWook said:

Handman said:

TV’s Frink said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Ryan McAvoy said:

moviefreakedmind said:

I do begrudge people expecting everyone else to fall in line with their choices

To be clear… “people” weren’t involved in making “everyone” do what they said. ONE person highlighted ONE t-shirt to the boss of ONE company. The boss agreed it was offensive.

The little picture of text heavily implied that everyone should fall in line with the person who wrote it.

I just don’t get why your right to offend someone is more important to you than the fact that you might be offending someone.

Speech that is offensive is much more important to protect than non-offensive speech, as offensive speech is the only speech that is questioned anyway. Again, bringing this to Star Trek, many of the ideas then were considered offensive at the time, women wrote in saying they didn’t like the female first officer! Did they change to stop causing offense? A bit, but not really. It didn’t change their mindset.

I presume they wrote these letters after The Menagerie aired, as The Cage never aired in it’s original form in the 60’s. I know the network suits allegedly put pressure on Gene Roddenberry to lose the character of Number One.
Viewers getting upset over a one shot character presented in the context of a flashback from 13 years in the past, that’s not even a current crew member, is a good definition of people who have too much time on their hands. 😉

I remember a documentary where Roddenberry was talking about people being upset about the female first officer. Maybe he showed the Cage to test audiences and those were the ones complaining?

Where there’s a test audience, there’s usually a stack of these nearby. 😉

As usual, I don’t get the joke.

Just take a nap near one, and it won’t matter. 😉

Or you could just google Invasion Of The Body Snatchers

Post
#1049760
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

Warbler said:

SilverWook said:

Handman said:

TV’s Frink said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Ryan McAvoy said:

moviefreakedmind said:

I do begrudge people expecting everyone else to fall in line with their choices

To be clear… “people” weren’t involved in making “everyone” do what they said. ONE person highlighted ONE t-shirt to the boss of ONE company. The boss agreed it was offensive.

The little picture of text heavily implied that everyone should fall in line with the person who wrote it.

I just don’t get why your right to offend someone is more important to you than the fact that you might be offending someone.

Speech that is offensive is much more important to protect than non-offensive speech, as offensive speech is the only speech that is questioned anyway. Again, bringing this to Star Trek, many of the ideas then were considered offensive at the time, women wrote in saying they didn’t like the female first officer! Did they change to stop causing offense? A bit, but not really. It didn’t change their mindset.

I presume they wrote these letters after The Menagerie aired, as The Cage never aired in it’s original form in the 60’s. I know the network suits allegedly put pressure on Gene Roddenberry to lose the character of Number One.
Viewers getting upset over a one shot character presented in the context of a flashback from 13 years in the past, that’s not even a current crew member, is a good definition of people who have too much time on their hands. 😉

I remember a documentary where Roddenberry was talking about people being upset about the female first officer. Maybe he showed the Cage to test audiences and those were the ones complaining?

Where there’s a test audience, there’s usually a stack of these nearby. 😉

Post
#1049715
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

TV’s Frink said:

SilverWook said:

TV’s Frink said:

SilverWook said:

Wow, never even heard of that one.

???

The childhood game you mentioned.

Seriously? I thought we were pretty close in age and culture and most everyone in our situation was familiar with that game. Huh.

Maybe it’s something I’ve seen or heard, but just don’t have a name for? I couldn’t give a proper name to even half of the dumb things kids did or said back then. I also essentially lived the life of an Army brat, with my father’s job making us move every couple years or less. I was in so many elementary schools, I’ve lost count.

Post
#1049692
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

Handman said:

TV’s Frink said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Ryan McAvoy said:

moviefreakedmind said:

I do begrudge people expecting everyone else to fall in line with their choices

To be clear… “people” weren’t involved in making “everyone” do what they said. ONE person highlighted ONE t-shirt to the boss of ONE company. The boss agreed it was offensive.

The little picture of text heavily implied that everyone should fall in line with the person who wrote it.

I just don’t get why your right to offend someone is more important to you than the fact that you might be offending someone.

Speech that is offensive is much more important to protect than non-offensive speech, as offensive speech is the only speech that is questioned anyway. Again, bringing this to Star Trek, many of the ideas then were considered offensive at the time, women wrote in saying they didn’t like the female first officer! Did they change to stop causing offense? A bit, but not really. It didn’t change their mindset.

I presume they wrote these letters after The Menagerie aired, as The Cage never aired in it’s original form in the 60’s. I know the network suits allegedly put pressure on Gene Roddenberry to lose the character of Number One.
Viewers getting upset over a one shot character presented in the context of a flashback from 13 years in the past, that’s not even a current crew member, is a good definition of people who have too much time on their hands. 😉

Post
#1049637
Topic
All Things Star Trek
Time

The show was not mastered to VHS or Beta, those are not broadcast formats. Digital formats simply show the limitations of 80’s/90’s NTSC analog master video tapes, and the 35mm telecine technology of the era. And we’re not watching them on lower resolution analog tv’s anymore. People in countries that didn’t have the NTSC broadcast standard had to contend with conversions of TNG episodes that probably looked even worse on their tellys.

Post
#1049415
Topic
4K restoration on Star Wars
Time

DrDre said:

The site makingstarwars.net posted a rumor about the release of the OOT for the 40th anniverary:

http://makingstarwars.net/2017/02/rumor-unaltered-original-star-wars-trilogy-re-released-year/

They state: “Several sources have let us know it was coming and it appears to actually be on the way this time.”

Considering makingstarwars.net has a track record for generally posting reliable rumors, should we be hopeful?

They have a checkered history though. Take a big chunk of salt unless proven otherwise.

Post
#1049409
Topic
Random Thoughts
Time

suspiciouscoffee said:

Tyrphanax said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

In the not too distant future… April 14!

So so jazzed for this. God I hope they don’t screw the pooch.

Reaction to screening events for backers is entirely positive from what I’ve heard. Signs point to virgin pooches.

Would be nice if backers who ponied up enough get free Netflix accounts, similar to the classic episode downloads they already earned. (Which includes two of the “lost” KTMA episodes, thanks to Joel!) Seems like a physical release of the new season is still far away. Spoilers will abound long before that.

Post
#1049382
Topic
All Things Star Trek
Time

captainsolo said:

Just finished season 1 of TOS as a complete newbie.
Loved every damn minute.
Every one…except for “The Alternative Factor”. What the heck happened with the writing on that one?

The original actor set to play Lazarus, (John Barrymore) bailed at the last minute, as in he didn’t even show up the day shooting was to begin. Robert Brown was quickly brought in to replace him with no prep time. Things only continued to go downhill behind the scenes from there.
A romantic subplot between Lazarus and Lt. Masters was scrapped at the 11th hour. (A romance the “evil” Lazarus abuses to get his hands on Dilithium crystals.) The old Star Trek Compendium book from the 80’s alleges the subplot was cut because an interracial romance might have been a bridge too far for even TOS to cross in 1967.

Post
#1049369
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

Warbler said:

SilverWook said:

Warbler said:

So the old saying “Eeny, Meeny, Miny, Moe . . .” originally included the line "catch a (n-word) . . " in it? I didn’t know this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_Then_There_Were_None

I never knew “And Then There Were None” had such an offensive original title. But what does that have to do with the old saying “Eeny, Meeny, Miny, Moe”?

Both have been modified to remove that which was offensive?