SilverWook

Implying there was a thought process involved. 😉

So, zombie Andrew Jackson could have stopped the Civil War before it started?

The fandom is more fractured now than before the new films.

Disco_Lobot said:

I actually really like a lot of the clone designs and equipment, but the droids are mostly somewhere between forgettable to bad (other than the droidekas… which are cool). The Jedi fighters (and ARC-170s) are pretty sweet.

All those “flying cars” on Coruscant are god awful… they look like something out of a cartoon

Chlorine said:

ray_afraid said:

Chlorine said:

Amano said:
Many things looked generic

I mean, Doug Chiang and Ryan Church are pretty well respected.

And they are wonderful artists. But that didn’t stop most of the designs in the final product from looking dull or “un-starwarsy”. There were a few good designs throughout the PT, but most of it was blah.

I disagree. I always found the OT dull in its design, with things like Han’s ship supposedly looking like a piece of junk compared to other ships not really ringing true when so many of the ships in the OT were the same colorless grey, mega-greebled things, (star destroyers, nebulon frigates, ESB transports etc) or weren’t particularly more sleek looking than the Falcon (X-Wings, B-Wings, Ties, etc).

Felt very same-y to me.

Show the average guy in the street a prequel ship and an OT ship, and see which one they recognize. The OT designs are iconic.

Dammit Jim!

Would love to find a better version of this.

If it’s not shopped, it’s impressive.

Sure, his lackeys can say he’s in the bathroom or not available when he’s phoning up Nute Gunray in his private chambers. But how does he sneak off to meet Dooku at the end of AOTC? At least when he was out for a stroll with Maul in TPM, it was probably in the dead of night.

The security around Palpatine, (especially after the Grevious kidnapping) is laughable.

Ask a muddled question, get a muddled answer. 😉

Chlorine said:

SilverWook said:

Alderaan said:

SilverWook said:

Alderaan said:

Chlorine said:
Luke uses force super speed

What is force super speed?

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Force_speed

Sorry, you can’t apply in-universe logic that was created years or decades after the movie came out.

Shame on you for not recognizing a good troll too. 😉

How else do you explain Qui-Gon and Obi Wan zipping around like the Flash in TPM?

IIRC, force speed popped up in the Super Nintendo OT games.

And my own counsel will I keep as to who’s a troll. 😉

Just out of curiosity, are you also disputing my above screenshot and that scene as showing super speed?

Not to my knowledge.

https://propstore.com/blog/star-wars-the-empire-strikes-back-luke-skywalker-jump-puppet/

Alderaan said:

SilverWook said:

Alderaan said:

Chlorine said:
Luke uses force super speed

What is force super speed?

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Force_speed

Sorry, you can’t apply in-universe logic that was created years or decades after the movie came out.

Shame on you for not recognizing a good troll too. 😉

How else do you explain Qui-Gon and Obi Wan zipping around like the Flash in TPM?

IIRC, force speed popped up in the Super Nintendo OT games.

And my own counsel will I keep as to who’s a troll. 😉

But don’t Sith apprentices always turn on their masters eventually? 😉

Alderaan said:

Chlorine said:
Luke uses force super speed

What is force super speed?

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Force_speed

Chlorine said:

SilverWook said:

But they can’t sense the Sith Lord sitting across from them.

If you’re wearing a black hood, calling yourself Lord Sidious, and you’re making a collect hologram call to the Sepratists, that’s kind of suspicious. Lego Star Wars made a joke about Palpatine forgetting to take the hood off in front of the Jedi.

I don’t understand. He’s not making these calls with the Jedi in the room.

As for why they can’t sense him, they do sense the dark side of the force around the Chancellor. But It’s a far cry from “he’s an unsavory man” to “the guy running the galaxy is also the Sith lord we’ve been hunting”.

It’s called hiding in plain sight.

Or it’s the Jedi can’t solve a mystery over ten years that the Scooby Doo gang could figure out in 20 minutes?

If the President of the USA was secretly Cobra Commander, you don’t think a scheduling conflict might arise while he’s wearing the blue outfit with the cool helmet? Being a president or the Chancellor of the Republic is like living in a bubble, you don’t go to the bathroom without someone knowing your whereabouts. Yet Palpatine can sneak off long enough to go to an abandoned building on the rough side of Coruscant.

Of course, this is the prequels, where the window blows out of Palpatine’s office, a major lightsaber battle ensues, and a body falls from a 100 story window, and not one of those red guards shows up. And this is in the wake of his being kidnapped at the beginning of the movie. 😉

But they can’t sense the Sith Lord sitting across from them.

If you’re wearing a black hood, calling yourself Lord Sidious, and you’re making a collect hologram call to the Sepratists, that’s kind of suspicious. Lego Star Wars made a joke about Palpatine forgetting to take the hood off in front of the Jedi.

Slavicuss said:

Jeebus said:

Yarael Poof

Yeah, that’s the guy. That really does look sh*t.

Robot Chicken had their fun with Poof. 😉
https://youtu.be/2emv5A7OlVM

Of course they should have used the army. But do a little digging on them in the meantime. (A throwaway line about following the money trail could have helped, even if Palpatine has the equivalent of a Swiss bank account.) The bomb won’t go off if you safely remove the fuse.

There’s just too much plot convenience playhouse going on that benefits the bad guys. Nobody ever pays Palpatine a visit when he’s got the black hood on and making a long distance call. (Would be really funny if he was addressing his minions from a locked bathroom.) Is there a Sith lord in the house? Who knows, our ability to use the Force is diminished. (Yet Yoda can sense Anakin opening a can of Dark Side on the Sandpeople light years away.) Dooku can’t possibly be behind the attempts to kill Padme, it’s not in his nature. Oh wait! He’s evil now!

One of the funniest bits in Frink’s AOTC edit is Mace and Yoda contradicting themselves on the “Who authorized the clone army?” thing. Cracks me up every time. 😉

Again, no questions asked. It’s like getting a free laptop from some guy in an alley, and using it to pay your bills online without checking for viruses and spyware.

Aunt and uncle you mean. Technically his parents did get incinerated, but he wouldn’t know about that. 😉

Chlorine said:

Disco_Lobot said:

Meh - there was a “sort of” explanation… I think it was probably fine given the topic to leave it kind of vague.

Whatever happened to that Sifo-Dyas explanation btw? LOL

Do you guys even watch the movies?
The Sifo-Dyas complaint is one of the more baffling ones.

Obi-Wan says to Mace and Yoda that Sifo-Dyas supposedly ordered the army. Mace and Yoda exchange dark looks. Obi-Wan then says that he was under the impression that Sifo-Dyas had died before the date the army was commissioned. That lets us in on what Mace’s concerned look was about. Sifo-Dyas died before that date, so Mace says that whoever placed the order did not have the authorization of the Jedi council.

Then of course Obi-Wan is captured and learns who made the army by following Jango. Yoda has already left for Kamino though so he can’t tell him.

Then the ending scene with the three of them in the council chamber.
Obi- "I have to admit that without the clones it would not have been a victory."
Yoda- “No, not victory. The shroud of the dark side has fallen. Begun, the clone war has”.

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They know that Sifo-Dyas was a fake name used by Dooku. But it’s the clone army or no army. Either they fight this war, or just roll over for the Sith.

Yeah, let’s go with this ready made army probably commissioned by a sith lord, no questions asked. They couldn’t all possibly be sleeper agents that will slaughter us at a later date if someone says rutebaga or something. 😉

Chlorine said:

SilverWook said:

Maybe if George had brought Liam back to do the Qui-Gon voiceover in Episode III? Seriously, the technology existed in 2005 that Liam could have phoned his lines in from just about anywhere.
As it stands, name dropping Qui-Gon in the scene between Yoda and Obi Wan just seems to come in out of nowhere.

We heard Neeson in AotC though.

And it’s more fun to get the news WITH Obi-Wan.

Via dialog recorded for TPM.

Alderaan said:

Cheaper to name drop.

At least until Liam actually did a Clone Wars episode. 😉

Alderaan said:

Just ignore the prequels and you don’t have to worry about **** like this.

Yeah, but it can be fun to deconstruct them sometimes. I sometimes learn more from bad movies than I do good ones. 😉

Maybe if George had brought Liam back to do the Qui-Gon voiceover in Episode III? Seriously, the technology existed in 2005 that Liam could have phoned his lines in from just about anywhere.
As it stands, name dropping Qui-Gon in the scene between Yoda and Obi Wan just seems to come in out of nowhere.