SilverWook

MalàStrana said:

All the geeks love Mandy lame

Yes, we get that you don’t like the show already. Don’t be a threadcrapper.

I’ve noticed that before as well. They only seem to appear in that one shot.

I’ve been wondering for years if Lucas gave Daniels any dialog to be saying to Chewie in that shot. Then again, maybe it was along the lines of Are you sweating more than am I in your suit? 😉

Cthulhunicron said:

This is a minor nitpick, but it seems odd that Mando uses carbonite to transport his prisoners when they established in ESB that freezing people in carbonite is likely to kill them. Is it common knowledge that Han Solo was frozen this way?

Beyond that, it was pretty good.

There’s wiggle room in that Vader comments on Cloud City’s facility being crude. And there was an episode of TCW where Anakin and company were frozen to infiltrate someplace.

Smoking Lizard said:

TavorX said:

Point #7 seems weird to gripe about. It would be so plain-jane to dryly say and spell out every plot point all at once. The show had me in the dark most of the time of what the hell was going to happen, in a good way of course.

Because it’s corny? Contrived? Stilted? Not a logical way for people to behave?

I see nearly four years away from here has not improved your sunny disposition.

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

DominicCobb said:

I expected them to get rid of the 20th Century Fox logos entirely, for consistent branding with the other films. I’m honestly not sure why they didn’t.

This could be a GL thing, actually. He insisted that SW77 be preceded by the the fanfare even though it was falling into disuse at Fox at the time. In fact, it was SW’s popularity that led to Fox bringing back the logo+fanfare. So we have GL to thank for that!

I don’t think the short version of the Fox fanfare ever really went away. It was the Cinemascope extension that had fallen by the wayside, as Fox films weren’t being shot with Cinemascope lenses anymore at that point, although Rocky Horror did it’s own unique version of the longer fanfare even though it isn’t a scope film.

theprequelsrule said:

RogueLeader said:

That is such a difficult question for me. I mean, would the prequels not be about Anakin’s fall?

They could have been about Obi-wan’s failure as a teacher instead.

Back to terrible ideas: The Neimodians and Trade Federation. Nothing scares me more then something called The Trade Federation. And their ships were unimposing and nonthreatening in design. Compare them to the Star Destroyer. However they did give us the best dialogue in the prequels: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV8QO9dZKVc

That might have been the point though? That the Trade Federation wasn’t taken as serious as threat as they could have been. And let’s face it, clowns like Nute Gunray would not have been players without Palpatine pulling the strings.

Between this and the altered sunset shot in American Graffiti, Lucas’ obsession with altering cloud formations is getting a little disturbing. At least put some subliminal messages in there while you’re at it! 😉

DominicCobb said:

act on instinct said:

DominicCobb said:

act on instinct said:

I don’t agree with Kasdan’s take on ROTJ but I do think they blinked and if anything could truly be undone I would have wished Gary Kurtz never left, but that’s not really an idea so instead I’ll go with Leia really shouldn’t have been so sidelined in ROTJ.

I think the truth of the matter is having Kurtz around wouldn’t have changed much. Most of the issues present in ROTJ were brought up in the Lucas/Kasdan/Marquand/Kazanjian story meetings. The fact is that Lucas was calling the shots, and Kurtz would have ultimately acquiesced to him, same as the others (the reason TESB is great is because Kurtz basically let Kershner do what he wanted, not because he was keeping Lucas in check).

I’d want Marquand out too, no offense Marquand, but he was less of a creative drive whereas having Kurtz around just on set was another layer of someone who really did understand the story, certain silly things might have been averted but we’ll of course never know, and of course I still think ROTJ pulls it together by the end, just not quite firing on all cylinders to the degree I’d qualify the first two.

It’s kind of a chicken or egg thing though. If there was a better director with a stronger vision for the film (like Kersh for TESB), it would have been a better movie. But would Lucas have hired such a director?

After his falling out with the DGA over Kershner’s credit placement in ESB, a good number of directors he could have hired (like Spielberg) were unavailable to him.

I was surprised to see Alice Doesn’t Live Here Anymore on TCM the other night with it’s vintage 70’s Saul Bass Warner Bros. logo intact. Or does Martin Scorsese have enough clout that they don’t slap a modern logo on his films?

Anakin and Obi Wan did wear some armor in The Clone Wars, and mind the salty language.

That was fast.

Bloody hell!
https://twitter.com/StarWarsVisComp/status/1194160489825284097?s=19

Could this have been another 3D tweak like the rocks in front of Artoo that somehow didn’t get shoved in before now?

Darth Hade said:

pleasehello said:
Isn’t that what Rian Johnson tried to do? RJ may be the most “auteur” of any director to helm a Star Wars movie; he did something quite different and people hated it.

I think there is a fine line there. With Star Wars, you can take some chances.

But there is a big difference between that and going off the reservation.

Johnson went way off the reservation.

That’s a phrase with a lot of sad U.S. history behind it, and probably shouldn’t be so casually used in this context.

Look good, but I think there’s grammatical error in the last sentence on the back. It ought to read Recorded and produced?

So before filming? I can’t imagine they would still want to cut once they saw some footage. It’s a good thing Alan Ladd Jr. was on George’s side.

ATMachine said:

Lucas originally planned to make Luke’s lightsaber red and Vader’s blue, but Hirsch suggested switching them because of his knowledge of Christian iconography from the Renaissance era he’d studied in art history at Columbia University in the mid-‘60s.

from this article on Paul Hirsch’s new book

This dovetails with mention of the early lightsaber colors being swapped (and the tractor beam gauge also) in Paul Duncan’s SW Archives book.

This one is pretty astonishing.

The studio, 20th Century Fox, wanted to cut the Death Star trench battle, feeling like the movie was done after Ben’s death.

How the heck was the movie supposed to end if they didn’t blow up the Death Star?

DuracellEnergizer said:

ATMachine said:

Lucas originally planned to make Luke’s lightsaber red and Vader’s blue, but Hirsch suggested switching them because of his knowledge of Christian iconography from the Renaissance era he’d studied in art history at Columbia University in the mid-‘60s.

from this article on Paul Hirsch’s new book

This dovetails with mention of the early lightsaber colors being swapped (and the tractor beam gauge also) in Paul Duncan’s SW Archives book.

I have given a name to my pain, and it is Paul Hirsch.

*shoots laptop*

Care to elaborate, or is this just more negative waves?

DominicCobb said:

SilverWook said:

I do wonder if there was ever a crawl shot with Revenge.

Late response, but almost certainly not. According to Rinzler’s book, ROTJ finally officially became Return around December 17, 1982. The crawl wasn’t shot until the last day of February, 83.

So the Revenge teaser must have been out earlier than that? I can’t recall when I got my official fan club renewal goodies which included a Revenge patch. IIRC, the fan club sold out of the Revenge poster pretty fast once the name change was public.

You’d be amazed how many casual fans think Jabba the Hutt has always been in the original film. When even people at Lucasfilm don’t always know when they’re looking at an SE shot, some damage to the historical record has been done.

Until there’s another screening of an original print we won’t know if it was just a one off for an event in which the SE would have been pointless, or a real relaxation of George’s preferences.

People can see Gone With The Wind or The Wizard of OZ and experience more or less what audiences saw in 1939, but seeing Star Wars exactly as it was in 1977 has become somewhat more difficult in the past 20 years.

People having a civilized conversation in this thread? What sorcery is this? 😛

DuracellEnergizer said:

Rodney-2187 said:

Star Wars is forever

Until our soulless civilization is inevitably crushed under its own crapulence.

You’re a ray of sunshine.

My Dad’s ancient shortwave radio would pick up all sorts of weird signals (scrambled transmissions I presume?) and it was neat when I noticed some of those turning up as background sound effects in the original film.

I find it amusing the DVD Talk forum now has a general Star Wars discussion thread.
https://forum.dvdtalk.com/movie-talk/648960-general-star-wars-discussion-thread.html
I wonder where they got that idea from? 😉