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#1122645
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General Star Wars <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> Thread
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The Dark Empire said:

Hello everyone.

There is a thing in the new Star Wars films that has changed compared to the original trilogy. I’ve already mentioned it somewhere in another topic, and I think I can talk about it again after watching the new trailer for episode 8.

In Episode 8, a ground attack of the Empire can be seen, like in Episode 5.
Even in the first pictures of Episode 7, I was enormously disturbed by the atmosphere flying TIE-Fighters and star-destroyers.

I have several technical manuals at home. So far, the TIE-Fighter has been a pure space ship, which has neither a suitable propulsion for the atmosphere, an ion drive only works in space, nor the repulsor lift required by this bad aerodynamic.

Furthermore, Star Destroyers of the Imperial class are not able to fly in atmosphere like a Venator for example. Thats why they are build in space. They only have ION-engines build for use in space. This was also apparent in Episode 5. There the Star Destroyers could not launch an Orbital Bombardment, since the Rebel Base had a shield. So ground troops had to be sent.

If the great Imperial class star destroyers were capable of atmospheric maneuvers, one would not need any ground troops. Likewise, in such an open terrain, heavy slow ground troops make little sense if thousands of cheap and fast-to-produce TIEs could attack from all directions. In Episode 5, no TIEs were sent to Hoth’s surface. With TIEs, the empire can instantly send an overpower into the battle. You would simply let some of the star destroyers circle a few kilometers above the enemy. From there, they could cover the whole area with laser fires and TIEs.

No body groups would be needed.

In the old triology, the imperial military was militarily logically structured.
Now it feels illogical. I’m keeping the TIE-Fighter out of the air.

Rogue One was more logical in this regard, because the TIE striker used there is
"specialized for in-atmosphere missions, the atmospheric fighter is identifiable by its horizontal high-speed wings and large central pod." And it has repulsorlifts.

That makes sense and shows that the TIE flying in atmosphere is wrong. Therefore i can not watch TIEs standing on there panels. I hate it because nothing that flies would be standing on this filligrane components.

I know that it is quite technically realistic what is going on in my mind and I know that it is only films, but the Technical Manuals do so if everything was real.

Whats your oppinion on this?

TIE’s seem to have had no difficulty operating in the atmosphere on Bespin.


The old making of ESB paperback mentioned an FX shot of Rebel troops on Hoth looking up and seeing a Star Destroyer in the sky, but this obviously didn’t make it into the finished film.

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#1122608
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Handman said:

If they were released any earlier, most of the individuals involved would still be around. It doesn’t paint a pretty picture of the CIA and FBI, it kind of makes them look like a bunch of fools. Utilizing the mafia wouldn’t look good to a public that believes its government sticks to the law.

IIRC, the criminal underworld was enlisted in rooting out foreign agents in WWII. Nothing new about dealing with shady characters in the name of National Security.

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#1121534
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The Stephen King Thread
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ChainsawAsh said:

The Dark Tower, while far from perfect, is one of my favorite book series of all time. I’m so gutted at how they ruined the film adaptation. I’ve read the 2014 draft of the script and, while it wasn’t amazing, I wouldn’t have hated it and it would’ve been an okay foundation for a film series that followed books 2+ more closely.

But no, they cut that script to the bone and butchered both Roland’s motivation and the ending.

Here’s hoping the TV series that’s supposedly still going ahead is, in fact, a complete reboot as has been suggested instead of taking place within the universe of the film…

Has King complained about Dark Tower the way he does about Kubrick’s version of The Shining? 😉

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#1121530
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The Stephen King Thread
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Since this thread jogged my memory, was King verboten for book reports for anyone else in high school back in the day? I can’t recall what the specific reason given was anymore. Either he was too popular or the English Dept. didn’t like him very much. I think a couple other authors were on the no-no list, but can’t remember who they were.

Non American authors were also curiously not allowed. I got away with a Douglas Adams book anyway. 😛