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Shimraa
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and i dont know if this is what you meant but i think that melding the beliefs of the world into one is fantasic.
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i agree with you alot of people would disagree with me. it is true that some of the stories int eh bible might have some historical foundation however thats all they would have. ill give you an example, there was a program on just a little while ago about noahs ark they used science and known history to look at the story objectively. what they concluded was that there was no global flood but a huge regional flood, and that noah was a really man but the ideas of him gathering up all the animals and such was greatly exagerated. given the previous i would say that the story lost its historical use and became a great tale that tells people about the nature of human beings.
as the for cursades, sry i will do some reading into that, i learned and always thought that the cursades where started inorder to retake the holyland and bring jeruselum under chirstian power.
for my last words you misinpterpted me. what i was getting at was the fact that two majour religions e.g. christianity and islam, fight so much over there beliefs, but when you look at both of the beliefs systems the differences are only skin deep. they have exactly the same values like give to the poor take care of you family be good to you fellow human beings, yet the fight so much and for what, to prove that theres is right.
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
5143!!!
I'm getting up there now!
5143!!!
I'm getting up there now!
yeah but you need to hurry the hell up.
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Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
"As for evolution vs intelligent design...it's harder to believe in evolution, since there are so many gaps in the logic or just plain leaps in logic to really understand anything. Besides, doesn't the laws of thermodynamics already prove it wrong? Matter cannot be created or destroyed, matter goes from a state of union to disunion (can't remember the correct terms, but u get it)?"
What I don't get is why people can't reconcile these two seemingly disparate terms. There is a great deal of evidence of life adapting to changes in the environment. Humans in different areas of the world, such as artic vs. equitorial, have important and subtle differences in physiology to help them survive. Think of what happened to the variety of life in Africa when the Sahara slowly became a desert (it used to be covered with water.)
Let's not forget plate techtonics (as the recent floods reminded us are still very much in play.) Plant and fossil records show that where the plates used to meet (i.e. Pangea), modern-day organisms from those same areas share remarkable similiarities, despite now being millions of miles apart. Of course, Austriala is almost an island unto itself in this regard (), having been separated from the other continents for a greater period of time, and having a wider range of animals with very unique characteristics (i.e. marsupials.)
What people seem to miss is, regardless of whatever the "intelligent design" might have been, it is always affected by outside forces - i.e. nature. Of course, seeing as how I think the design is to adapt, survive and propogate, I have no problems with how life has changed to suit its needs. Someone who thinks there is a "higher purpose" to life might have a little more difficulty reconciling these ideas.
As to your other points, here's some fun reading:
order versus complexity. I loved the distinction made here. Excellent stuff.
types of entropy.
hye i am just curious as to how many people read those two articles and understood them.
and as for evolution i have stated many times my ideas on it. as far as i am concerned i split the theory it into two different catagories, macro evolution, and micro evolution. mircoevolution is a fact, it happens and it is observed all the time. it why we get super bugs i.e. antibiotic resistant bacteria. The idea of survival of the fittiest IS what drives mirco evolution. macro evolution is how structures like eyes came into being. now this in my opinion is where all the contoversy is. there are many theories on how this occurs known of which i am very farmilar with, i used to know them but alas i have forgotten all of the ideas and concepts in them so i wont try to explain them in fear of doing a bad job of it.
another misconception about the theory of evolution is that people think it is try to explain how life was created. this is not the case what evolution does is explain how life progressed from one type of organism or organisms. evolution requires is a starting life form from which all life arose, evolution does say or even atempt to explain where this life form came from it only says that it had to be there. the article posted my MEBEJEDI shows evidence for how that one life form came into existance. again that is a theory and is NOT part of darwins theory of evolution.
now i find that i have a very scientific mind, and at the same time i feel i believe very much in god. now i am not chirstian i am sikh and i find that the idea of the world and all of its beings being created in 6 days as being rediculous. now that is 6 caldendar days, who is to say that a day for god isnt a billion years or a mutliple of a fraction of our years. we define a year as one go around the sun. a juptor year is many more earth days longer then an earth year. on jupitor-year has even more jupitor days in it cus a jupitor day is shorter then an earth day. IMO it all comes down to preception and POV. so gods six days could really be ANY period of length cus whos to say that the 6 days recorded was written from our POV. it could be written from the point of veiw of a galaxtic day which would be like 255 million years(not sure) where one day is the time is takes for the galaxy to make one rotation. who knows only god knows.
and another thing this is just my personal belief and i guess you could call it a bias i however feel that it is not. I have listened to maybe people talk about the bible infact my best friend is an extemely religious chirstian, and a creationist i might add, and from waht he has told me about the bible, and what i have heard about it from numerous other sources i feel that almost 99% of the bible should be taken figuretively and not literally. this not jsut the my take on the bible thou i have the same opinion of every other holybook in every other religon. sadly in the world today too many people take the words in holy books as literal fact, and that is why you have the war on terror and unrest in the middle east, that is why you get genicide and suffering. its just like the cursades people endless fighting over ideas that use different words to discribe the same idea.
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Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father
Hi guys, I haven't been near the computer all weekend and it looks like this debate has come alive since last I posted. First, JediSage, nice response to my point (What if Evolution is God's method) and no hard feelings about Kyoto either. I take your point, but the way I see it (I was raised Catholic by the way, but now I don't go in for the organised religion part but still believ in Jesus and God, etc) is that God created the world. He didn't do it in 6 actual days. He maybe done it in 6 'ages' or perhaps just millions of years (I'm sure creating a planet full of life is a tough job). I also believe that there is life on other planets, also created by God. IMO the 6 days idea, and the Adam and Eve story is a metaphor. My belief is that God did create the earth and life on it, Evolution is his Method, but that doesn't mean he stepped back and let it happen, he guided it, watched (and still watches) it, he is there for us, to help us if we want, but we also have free will. I really don't think that one idea cancels out the other, I don't think that evolution existing means God doesn't, if anything I think it demonstrates the amazing complexity and brilliance of the world he has created. As a final point, I don't necessarily believe in God as a He, She or It, but I use that description to give people something to hang their mind on while they read my thoughts. Anmd these are just my thoughts, so feel free to pick them apart - I will not be offended, in fact I welcome it. Maybe togehter we can get closer to the bottom of this by discussing it...
you know your the only other person i have met to have the exact same belief on the matter and i mean EXACT. and i have met alot of people on this issue.
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i dont think there are any SE lover. personally i have never heard of one or encountered one which means that there cant be that many of them even if they do exist. secondly i think people that like the se like the PT cus they are not in love with the OT they dont mind if things are changed they dont take the changes at personal insults as i know some OOT fans have.
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so what happened is my dad somehow got the money to open a amusement park in my house, the main attraction in the park was a dancing show preformed by rapters from JP in my back yard, so anyway what happened was on opening day on the first show the rapters came out and they attacked everyone. so by the way my house is shaped i managed to get up out of my back yard onto my balcany, and run in my house. unfortunatly for me two of the rapters( there were 3) jumped up a story and start to chase me, we ran through to house and i manage to douge them and get into my basement, from there i ran back into the back yard while they were still on the main floor of my house looking for me. i then manage to run to the top of my driveway, and looked back at my house. it was at this point my house blew up some how and then i work up.
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Originally posted by: WarblerQuote
Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
Ah, who cares.....EVERYBODY BOW TO ME !!!
I bow to no one!!!!!
execpt me warbler we all know that you in secert bow to me.
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
Yes, it does seem that fans of the unaltered trilogy are usually also prequel haters, now that you mention it.
For the life of me I can't figure out why. More child-hood molesting nonsense, I guess.
i am with you 100% chaltab.
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Originally posted by: Warbler
will it cause phyical harm? no
but it just doesn't sound or read nice. And in (imho) should be avoided as much as possible. (end of sermon)
will it cause phyical harm? no
but it just doesn't sound or read nice. And in (imho) should be avoided as much as possible. (end of sermon)
its a joke.
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and all i can say is my posting is just going to down in the future
i got 3 primary and 2 secondary girls in my life right now. so its geting very troublesome to get on.
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i have high hopes for it.
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