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#258264
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Info & Idea: Superman Original 1978 Soundtrack Preservation?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/258264/action/topic#258264
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Apparently, they only fouled up with the 14-disc set in regards to the Superman III thing. The Chris Reeve collection includes the correct disc. The 14-disc set does not.

Here's the news from capedwonder.com:

"22 November 2006 -- Contrary to what I was told earlier this year and indicated in yellow in WHV's official press release, the new Superman-The Movie theatrical cut DVD (Region 1) does NOT have the original 1978 sound mix, only the 2001 restoration ("Thau") mix that many of you are very familiar with. I checked both the "English 5.1" selection and the "English" (2.0) selection in the Language menu, and each has the same newer mix. Bill Hunt of DigitalBits.com has confirmed that there's no original mix on his disc. Some WB folks I know are checking into this matter for all regions...I'll hopefully be able to update you soon....."

And:

"The Region 1 Superman Ultimate Collector's Edition DVD box set was shipped with the old 2001 Superman III DVD (old menu without all of the new extras), while the Region 1 Christopher Reeve Superman Collection DVD box set contains the new version of Superman III with the deleted scenes, trailer, making of, etc. Bill Hunt of DigitalBits.com found the same error in his Ultimate box.

I also checked the Superman-The Movie theatrical Cut DVD in both the Ultimate and CRSC boxes, and only the French language has the 1978 original sound mix. So you French speaking fans are in luck! As for the rest of us, well...we'll have to wait and see what Warner Bros. decides to do about it."
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#258226
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Info & Idea: Superman Original 1978 Soundtrack Preservation?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/258226/action/topic#258226
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Just a heads up from those looking to buy the 14-disc Ultimate Superman Collection: it looks like Warners messed up and Superman III in the new set may be the older release from 2001, without the new commentary, deleted scenes, and other extras.

In my opinion, Warners is the best DVD studio out there. But this release sure sounds like a mess. Hopefully they offer disc replacements for the theatrical cut of STM and Superman III.
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#258163
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Info & Idea: Superman Original 1978 Soundtrack Preservation?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/258163/action/topic#258163
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So it looks like the upcoming release of Superman: The Movie, which features the original theatrical cut of the film, won’t be including the film’s original soundtrack from 1978. Instead, the DVD apparently features the 2001 remixed 5.1 soundtrack with re-recorded sound effects, etc. and a 2.0 soundtrack which is simply downconverted from that.

The exclusion of Superman’s original soundtrack has been the issue of some serious groaning since the film’s first release on DVD in 2001 and fans are rightfully outraged that the upcoming sets won’t feature the film’s original audio, as it was originally announced in the press release.

For more details, read here.

What are the chances of preserving the film’s original soundtrack from laserdisc?

Hopefully, these early reports turn out to be wrong and the original soundtrack is really on there. Or hopefully Warners will take measures to recftify this problem.

But if not, isn’t this what we do here at OT.com?

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#257965
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Question about the Prequels
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/257965/action/topic#257965
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Originally posted by: lordjedi
Thread Godwined. Nice going Shifty. You take a completely reasonable question (based on some of the other posters around here) and reply with the most repulsive comment ever.
My comment was meant to be taken as a jest, but it was born out of some despicable behavior I saw here a few weeks ago. I opened a thread that started off perfectly reasonable (the subject escapes me). But it descended into big line of posts that got pregressively more disgusting and childish attacking Go-Mer-Tronic, who seems to like the prequels and Lucas, despite the fact that he hadn't even posted in the thread yet. Things like that disgust me and have turned me off from this forum. So looking at that example, it's perfectly alright to like the prequels here. You just can't love them. And if you do, just don't post about it or you're in for a whirlwind of persecution.
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#256770
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King Kong: The Spence Edit 2.0 (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/256770/action/topic#256770
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Interesting. I was just thinking about downloading your first edit earlier.

I love Peter Jackson's King Kong and yet it's so fun to edit! I had dreams of adding in all of the deleted scenes, etc. to make something along the lines of a "KONG: THE COMPLETE EXPERIENCE" but since some of the deleted scenes seem to have incomplete effects or are slightly alternate characterizations, we'll see how that turns out when I pick up the set over the weekend.

Anyway, I haven't seen your original version, but I read some of the changes you made in that. Here are some cuts I made for my personalized edit of Kong. Feel free to use some of them if you think they sound promising.

* It opens with Carl showing his dailes and I also cut the producer's comments on tribal bosoms in that scene.
* The first time you see Ann is the first time Denham see her.
* I cut some of the Ann's introduction to Einglehorn like him warning her about the dangers (Why does she still get on the ship?)
* I removed a lot from the boat ride including Ann & Jack's first meeting (awkward!), Jack living in the animal cages, the Skull Island subplot (Jimmy walking in on Jack's slo-mo typing session and subsequent crew whisperings; the crew is experienced so they can tell something's up), removed the Jimmy & Hayes relationship, removed the turning around the ship subplot, shortened the ship crashing sequence, cut some of the group's journey as they first get to shore, walk around, etc)
* I cut away nearly all closeups of the natives (except for the kid and the old woman). They're now a more mysterious and less disgusting.
* I cut some other scenes down (such as the slo-mo Captain shooting the native & arduous Kong shaking Ann moments that you mentioned in the other thread).
* I cut some of the crew walking around the island & cut down on the Bronto stampede. I think the sequence is a little more plausable now since there's no gag with Bruce and the raptor, no Super Jimmy video game moment. They just run around for a while with quite a few of the shots of all the crewman dodging the brontos removed.
* I removed the cameraman's death scene & subsequent mourning by Denham. I may have also cut the mourning for the sound guy, but I don't quite recall
* Removed some of Kong seeing if Ann is asleep & some of their later scene together (where she does the vaudevill act). He doesn't push her over a billion times now.
* I cut some of the interaction between Hayes & Jimmy and Lumpy & Choy during the log sequence.
* Ann no longer encounters the little dino, run into the log and meet all the gross out bugs. She just runs, and sees the V-Rex eating the other dino.
* I cut down on the pit sequence. Heck, in my second version, it's completely removed and plays out like the original film. When they're rescued, I cut Denham's speech abour cockroaches.
* I cut down on Ann & Kong's weepy expressions when he's captured.
* Shortened the scene with Denham meeting everyone at the premiere. It's now more of a quick montage.
* I cut some of the sampling we get of Jack's play
* I deleted some of Denham's intro at the theater, some of Bruce's dance and shortened Kong's reaction to fake Ann
* I chopped some of the NY sequence. Kong doesn't throw around so many blondes and Jack's chase sequence is a few blocks shorter.
* I cut directly from Ann & Kong's reunion to a firing sound (the implication being that the army is shooting at them). They then run up the ESB. And then I shortened the aerial assault (removed shots of planes doing nothing, and repetitive action, etc.)

Your new version sounds like an interesting take on the material, so good luck and I hope to see it when you're done.
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#255880
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Star Wars: Classic Edition 2.0 NEW from Ocpmovie (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/255880/action/topic#255880
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On my monitor, the middle portion of the starfield in image 8 looks all gray but then it gets all blocky with purer black coming through on the sides.

By saying version 1 was disappointing, there seemed to be some issues with the encoding/compression. Movement didn't flow well and seemed slightly jerky and there was quite a bit of compression artifacts.
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#254782
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Official Star Wars newsletter from 1978
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/254782/action/topic#254782
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Personally, I think it's fair to say that when George Lucas created Star Wars, he had a rough story idea, more or less with basis in Kurosawa's The Hidden Fortress. He tosses in some Flash Gordon and Buck Rogers, and Star Wars was born. He thinks up a pretty rich (though not necessarily specific) backstory concerning the Jedi Bendu, the nature of the Force, mythical wizards, etc. Throughout the development of his script, he pares down all the backstory and we get what we know today as Star Wars (A New Hope). Lucas had intended the film to carry on in the tradition of old serials, so he envisioned a series of cliffhanger type entertainment. He tries a story treatment for the second film, perhaps bringing in more of the mythology he created (kyber crystals, etc). He eventually tosses this idea (Splinter of the Mind's Eye) and decides to continue the story in a more traditional means. The concept of The Empire Strikes Back is born. Lucas figures he could throw in a real twist and combined the Anakin and Vader characters. At this moment, he envisions a more detailed backstory (with Anakin & Obi Wan, the old Republic, plotpoints, and all, but still fairly rough) and figures he could make a prequel trilogy. He's also young and figures Star Wars could thrive as a James Bond type series, so he reasons that he could do more trilogies in the future. Around the time of Return of the Jedi, he probably gets tired of it and decides to make the third film the big finale. He ties up loose ends even if not according to the original plan for the sequels (like Leia and Luke being siblings) and puts a cap in the series for a while. Then his wife divorces him, takes half of his money, and he spends the next decade or so making it back with merchandising, producing movies, etc. He also keeps an eye on technology and when it's right (around the time of Jurassic Park), he decides to start on the prequel trilogy. While he has a rough idea of where things will go, it tortures him to write the scripts, but he eventually does it and attempts to once again wrap things up.

That's all conjecture, but I think it's reasonable considering what we know and what Lucas has said in the past.
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#254057
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Help Wanted: anyone have the old 20th Century Fox Logo in good quality?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/254057/action/topic#254057
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The Alien logo is still a bit off (I noticed the screenshot was wrong when I compared it to the 2006 DVDs). The main difference is, I believe, the spotlights have an outline around them, the background isn't as dark, and the clouds aren't as pronounced. The Alien logo more closely matches the ROTJ one. As I said, the closest I could find was on that release of "The Leopard". Of the possible films I mentioned in my last post, The Poseidon Adventure & Towering Inferno don't include opening logos, and French Connection is 1.85. Maybe someone can investigate MASH, Planet of the Apes, and Down with love.

I won't be able to upload anything until the weekend (I'm at college now and don't have any of my DVDs with me).

Of course, the Alien logo may be good enough for the purpose.
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#254001
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Help Wanted: anyone have the old 20th Century Fox Logo in good quality?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/254001/action/topic#254001
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This has me interested, so I've been scanning a few 70s era Fox titles. So far, the closest I've come across for Star Wars & ESB is from the American theatrical version of "The Leopard". The copy on the Criterion DVD isn't quite pristine (some film specs), but it's pretty good. Also note that the Star Wars Fox logos fade out early for the Lucasfilm logo. There are some other titles that you guys can check (Planet of the Apes, Poseidon Adventure, Towering Inferno, French Connection all come to mind), but I think I'll stop before I get obsessed.
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#253998
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Help Wanted: anyone have the old 20th Century Fox Logo in good quality?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/253998/action/topic#253998
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I remember reading some discussions over the opening Fox logo. It would seem that there are slight differences between some of the logos, so taking the logo from a movie of the same time period may not be 100% accurate, but I guess it'd be good enough.

Alien would probably be a good pick. Aliens in 1.85 though, so it's the wrong aspect ratio.

Looking at the logo at the start of Alien, it's a bit different from the Star Wars & ESB ones. The 20th Century Fox thing is a bit on the left (as opposed to centered), there's some difference in the spotlights, and the blue isn't as dark.
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#253384
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Request: a 'Serenity' movie fan edit? - ADM??
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/253384/action/topic#253384
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Originally posted by: lordjedi
Originally posted by: ocpmovie
>>I always wondered why Joss killed two leads in what most considered the start of a new franchise.

For him it was and is probably the end of a franchise .... also, Joss Whedon can be very mean to his characters. Cordelia, Anya, and Tara, anyone?

=(


He responds in kind to the way he's treated. Seth Green anyone?
Hmm?

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#252642
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Alien Subtitles In The GOUT
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/252642/action/topic#252642
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The issue over the subtitles not being hard coded into the picture is unfortunate. Of course, Star Wars is not the only example where this has been done (off the top of my head, the Kill Bill DVDs do this as well and there was a whole issue regarding the Bond DVDs). If the issue over language is a problem, just look at DVDs that do include hard coded subtitles. The Lord of the Rings films, for example. The other language subtitles are placed on screen elsewhere. Of course, this ends up looking rather cluttered with all the text onscreen, but it's a tradeoff. Of course, they could've gone with multiple angles, since this is already done with the opening crawls anyway.