Sevb32

Hey Ady, thanks for responding, I know I sound like a nag, but what you have done has got me so excited!

Thanks again!

Looks great, but I am hoping he added sky traffic, because that is after Lando advised people to leave.

Well maybe not new, but not reading up much, and I guess he didn't see the updated Emperor hologram among other things.

Scotty Balls said:

Just for my own piece of mind. Here are a few points I'd like to make about what I'd like to see/not see...

1 - Implied violence is ALWAYS more frightening than shown. For that reason, we don't need to see the Wampa.

2 - Get rid of the recycled ROTJ Vader Shuttle footage. It was HORRIBLE, and should never been seen (except in ROTJ) again.

3 - The Emperor hologram sequence. While I never saw a problem with the original look or Clive Revil's voice in the first place. I rather enjoyed hearing Ian McDiarmid. However, I thought he looked like total shite. Can you use footage of him from ROTJ, and make it look more "hologram-y". The 2004 ESB DVD had the hologram not looking tranparent enough. Also, PLEASE cut out all the new dialogue that Ian recorded for the 2004 DVD, and leave only the original conversation between Vader & The Emp. the new dialogue makes Vader's reveal to Luke completely redundant to the viewer, and takes away ALL of the emotional tension.

Of course, I'm sure you've thought of all this already.

You must be new here!

WOW!!! Thanks for that Ady! I can't wait to see the other backgrounds you've done for Slave I's platform and such, just remember, NO REPEATED CLOUD SHOTS EVEN IF THEY ARE MIRRORED OR REVERSED! (Unless they are in the exact same scene) Sorry to shout but it's a big pet peeve of mine.

A lil of topic, did anyone mention the scenes in cloud city where Chewbacca's (Mayhew's) boot soles are shown when he walks in some scenes? Those need fixed too!

Thanks again Ady!

Sigh, next thing you know you'll want to delete the entire scene. Luke takes Vader's mask off in ROTJ outside his meditation chamber with no back up breathing device, which is what Vader was breathing thru in the the chamber, Vader died in ROTJ because the electricity ruined his suit and breathing devices. He was going to die anyway ("Nothing can stop that now.") but wanted to look on his son with his own eyes before he died. Kind of a miracle he survived ROTS.

I hope their is no change to they way Vader's helmet is put on there. If you watch the scene u will see a breathing tube is moved up before the helmet/mask is lowered and covered his face, I believe he liked to have his helmet and mask off from time to time.

http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=comparisondjh.jpg

Look at the comparison and tell me what you think? Does one need to be altered to look more like the other? I think both shots can co-exist, how do we know that canon in the closer shot is not another canon well behind and to the side the one in the further away shot?

When Han rides in the base entrance on a Tauntaun  it's a slightly different angle  & it is also much closer to the entrance than the shot at the left thus the entrance looks bigger. It doesn't need altered like that.

I think to do a force push one would not necessarily have to lift a hand, but they often do to focus on whatever it is they are knocking down or moving.

Yes, for the second time time this has been fixed.

That's the window matte that is used twice, once when Lando gives his announcement, and of course here when Leia and Lando shooting at the troopers it is reversed. Annoying to the detail oriented.

Agreed about the Wampa knocking Luke off the Tauntaun, in the scene now, it looks as if the Wampas paw doesn't even come in contact with Luke's face, and all of a sudden when Luke is on the ground his face is bloodied.

vaderios said:

we need more of ur art here man!

Well,

And with the curve thing planet,which i agree,

-Angel

Ady already fixed the curve as seen in his latest screencaps.

One thing to make sure about the Cloud City scenes is to NOT repeat/re-use cloud patterns (Even mirror/reversed ones) unless it's in the same scene seconds later which is rarely the case. In the SE shots of the the hallway with the people listening to Lando's intercom announcement the same buildings and clouds outside the windows were used in reverse (Flipped/mirrored) later when Leia and Lando are shooting at the troopers just before they escape on the falcon. A new matte of buildings and clouds should be created for one of them so the shots are not repeated. I hate reused mattes even in flipped/mirroed shots, they are always obvious to me.

On to the same subject of flipped shots, the Naboo celebration added to the end of ROTJ was flipped from EP1, they added all the crowds celebrating, but they could have at least changed the lighting and put all new cloud patterns in the sky. That would have helped a lot.

The falcon looks "flat" because of the angle.

And back to ESB REVISITED here are a few more suggestions in image form

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http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/3446/cseffect.jpg

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4575/scenery.jpg

And that darn visible squib on the troopers chest before Leia shoots it.

http://img6.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vlcsnap198691.png

Too bad someone in the UK doesn't have one (AT-AT) similar, you could film it with the new hi-def cam.

Thanks Ady! Those look great!

porkinsred6 said:

HI guys,

I've been away for a while, but I've caught up and watched the latest clip. Looks great! I have a star wars encyclopedia (Essential Locations?) that has a 3 or 4 page pull out chart of the whole battle of hoth and the paths everyone took. It might be useful to use as a reference. Also it might make a good 30,000 foot view if it is decided that we see the rebel base as the transport is escaping. the book is somewhere in my apartment, if I find it, I will post high resolution scans of those pages if anyone wants to see it.

 

-porkins

Great idea, I have that book too, although Ady will consider it EU, he might be open to using it as a guideline, he doesn't have to, but it may give him some ideas.

But who would surround theirself with "no-men"? I doubt anything would get done. I think most of us are yes-men at the workplace.

Can you burn a 720p movie on a standard DVD? I am guessing there would not be enough space and it would not be full resolution, right?

I was assuming it is due to be done around Christmastime this year.

Ok, faint panels, but they aren't consistant with the other shots. They are easy to see when Vader is standing on the gantry, not so when they are dueling. Maybe they could be brightened or darkened? One or the other, as long as they are consistant in all the shots.

ImperialFighter said:

adywan said:

Some new shots...

as for the blockade i will be adding a couple of extra stardestroyers to the initial approach and a disabled stardestroyer in the background during Lukes escape but what i was saying was that Luke could easily slip away unchallenged because its just one fighter and a transport did leave just before he escaped so any remaining stardestroyers (which would only be one or two at the most) would be concentrating on the larger ships, so no need to add loads of stardestroyers for that scene. After all Luke is going in a completely different direction than the rebels so he most likely leaves in the opposite direction so you wouldn't see all the disabled stardestroyers which seem to concentrate above the rebel base on the other side of the planet. When the rebel transport escapes the stardestroyer is now firing upon the ships and destroys one x-wing and after the stardestroyer is disabled you see the transport and remaining x-wing jump to hyperspace.

 

Adywan, I've added this below the post I just made, as a quick comparison to do with that 'gantry' structure thing. But I've been meaning to say a couple of things about this recent follow-up post of yours anyway -

Firstly, I just wanted to say that having considered your latest thoughts here about this whole Hoth 'blockade' sequence, that I absolutely 'get' your reasoning about the possible immediate actions that Vader takes at the end of the AT-AT battle, as soon as he sees the Millennium Falcon get away from him at the Rebel Base. And I also agree that this rag-tag Rebel group are NOT actually his main priority at that moment, because he has a far bigger 'agenda' in mind.... And I can see how he would probably concentrate his efforts, AND those of his 'Fleet' Admiral / and Stardestroyer Commanders too, on solely focusing immediately on continuing to go after the Falcon (where he believes Luke is aboard, again), using the current available 'Fleet' Stardestroyers at his disposal to do so. Luke, and his potential capabilities ARE the most important matter he focuses on, during 'Empire'.... And that's what the introductory 'scroll' suggests too.

So I certainly see how your explanation about why there is probably an easier, straight-forward passage for Luke off the Hoth Planet at this point, makes perfect sense - either Vader orders every single one of his Stardestroyers to forget the 'blockade' immediately, once he just misses the Falcon....OR he orders the odd one or two to 'mop up' whatever Rebel remnants they can, while he returns to the 'Executor' as quickly as possible, to re-join the search.... And either way, there will be a lot of unattended 'sectors' that Luke and any remaining others, can go off in, as the remainer of the NON-disabled 'Fleet' (which wasn't comprised of a huge number to begin with) is being immediately taken up with Vader's on-going pursuit elsewhere, now....

That certainly works for me. I've been one of those who have been hopeful that you would incorporate a bit MORE 'Fleet'action / numbers along the way in the past, but as far as when we get to the point where Vader sees the Falcon escape, I wouldn't want you to feel you should add something extra to the mix here that you really didn't originally intend to. I see you've confirmed that you WILL put some evidence of a disabled Stardestroyer in somewhere during Luke's departure, for him to 'get past safely', and I personally really like the idea of that in ANY shape or manner. But although I like the concept in general, I do agree it's certainly not a 'must-have' now, because his routes for 'escape' are pretty open-ended now, if we accept the idea behind Vader's immediate next moves when the Falcon gets away....

However, it will ALSO certainly be an equally straight-forward 'alternative answer' for the ease of Luke's departure for some, as well as giving a little 'something extra' of interest, visually....so all-in-all, I'm VERY pleased that you are including something along these lines, after all. Where you decide to place it is not important, as your own judgement is normally so good, part of the fun for me will be eventually seeing where YOU decided to place it, and in what direction, and with what 'movement', if any.... :)

Of course, whatever you decide to do, or not do with the 'Fleet' up until the Falcon escapes, will be interesting to see too!

 

Onto other things -

Sevb32 recently thought that 4 'squares' on the 'gantry' floor weren't there anymore. Well Sevb32, you'll be glad to know that I can see all 5 panels present and correct on my monitor, albeit the shadowing has been nicely improved on that end section, altogether.

gavin77 recently thought I was referring to a 'pre-electrical energy sound' to go with the new electrical ION Cannon blasts.... No. What I was asking, was if Adywan planned on incorporating a subtle hint of a 'build-up' of actual 'arcing electricity' around part of the ION Cannon as it prepared to fire? And also, if he'd be putting a little of any corresponding 'glow' reflection on the ION Cannon and snow perhaps? Both of these were very nicely done in the 'mock-up' that vaderious came up with a while ago, and I thought a subtle hint of both would add even more excellence to Adywan's version too.

Adywan, like a few others here, I would really be interested to know what your reasoning was for removing the small, 'distant' Rebel Turret Gun from your excellent ION Cannon shot? - I always liked it in the way it helped the look of the 'composition' in the shot I thought, and was a good point of reference as far as sense of 'scale' was concerned, as we got to know what a 'real-sized' Turret Gun looked like. I notice you actually removed a section of the snow 'build-up' at the front base of the Cannon too, along with the whole 'ridge' that was there in the foreground.... I'd have thought that could have still looked great, and would have blended perfectly well with the new 'mountains' in the background. That's just a trivial thing, and it still looks great, but I'm really curious about your beef with that Turret Gun.... I noticed that DuTwan reckoned he'd never noticed the Turret before, but could totally understand why it was removed. Maybe he knows your reason, but I don't understand it yet. I hope you'll let us in on that. Did you just think it was located in a position that it shouldn't have been?

I see it looks like you are going for definate ORANGE 'horizontal' lines along the surrounding 'Vane' wall, instead of the red option then? Great stuff!

And I want to echo what was said about the Vader helmet that is seen now. Looks fantastic!

Finally, I'd also REALLY like for you to answer those few questions that were recently posed by TheBoost on page 253. Fingers crossed for that. :)

 

 

 

 

I just messed with my brightness, contrast, etc monitor, it's a Dell LCD monitor just a year old. I cannot see any panels on the gantry (The five rectangles Vader stands on when he asks Luke to join him") I am talking about not seeing the panels in the shot where they are dueling. I can clearly see the four panels in the shots when Vader is standing on them, so I son't get it. Anyone else see them? If they are there, they must be really faint.

Hmmm, I thought it was more of a viewscreen inside rather than an actual window anyway. I don't see why a black bar is bad, it could easily have a built in camera device.