I don't see what you are saying at all. Those are the same background buildings from the original matte painting. The original has too much at the building left above Leia's window to have the skylights.
Isn't it still too bright in the room from the view of the outside? I thought it would look more realistic to darken everything seen inside the window a bit. But I could be wrong.
Oh ok, makes sense. Did you remember to cover Mayhew's shoe soles? :)
Didn't someone say the scale of the cloud car was off when in crosses by Leia's window?
I always thought whatever that was made of was was designed to dissolve in carbonite.
vaderios, that cloud city shot looks great and it's one of the shots that needs changed because the cloud patterns are exactly the same as the shot in ROTJ when it pans up. This shot would be easier to change because it is a static shot unlike ROTJ being a shot panning up. At least the crowds are different between the two movies in the similar shots, though.
There were Ithorians at the pod race in TPM and in the nightclub in AOTC.
The refinery is still in these stills in my mind, behind the clouds. :)
So true, but I figure you had close to half of those done too.
Wow a bonus select! Thanks! Ady I am surprised you said you were worried about not having enough finished shots for the trailer, didn't you say you had about half the movie done?
Sumatra said:Ripplin said:oh_riginal said:Okay, this is the last attempt, for real this time! I promise.... If Ady isn't interested in this idea, maybe other fan editors may like it? Here it is.
I highly dig that! :D
I really don't like seeing the screen. The reason you see so many screens in the PT is because Lucas now thinks we're all so stupid that we have to be shown everything or we won't get it. He made the PT for 5 year olds.
We learn everything we need to from what Han tells Leia in that scene. There's no need to cut to something new when the scene is between the characters. Despite what Lucas think, CG is not a character.
Call me a frickin' 5 year old then.
Guess I'll become a Yes-man.
Akwat Kbrana said:Why don't we just stick to the radio drama then.
That's a strawman argument, and you know it. No one's saying "close your eyes and listen," only that over-explanation is something to be avoided, and something that positively plagued the PT. The necessary information is sufficiently and effectively communicated in this shot simply from seeing Han & Leia look down at a viewscreen and dialogue about it. Showing flashy holograms is just a change "for the hell of it," and doesn't really even enhance communication at all since the text would be in aurebesh. It's just distracting. It draws attention to a superfluous element and away from the performance of the actors.
I have a hunch that, prior to the issue being raised here, you never watched ESB and thought to yourself, "I wish they'd show a hologram or viewscreen of what Han & Leia are looking at." Am I wrong?
Not so much that you are wrong, but it also wasn't necessary to show the Death Star orbiting a planet in ANH:R either. I thought the structure was just finished and moved away from the planet it was built over just before the film began. But even so it's a change that doesn't bother me. There is nothing wrong with adding something because "You can". That point gets a bum rap, it's when you go insanely crazy with it, which I don't think adding a hologram is. It looks great, it ties the trilogies together, we can still focus on Leia and Han but not be 100 percent distracted by it. I know I keep hearing the PT should match the OT, not the other way around. If that's always the case why put the AOTC death star plans in ANH:R to update them? Continuity eh? But I am glad he did.
I just don't see how adding a hologram to that one scene kills everything. It works in the context of the scene. The falcon has panels & holoprojectors, they even play chess with them. It can still be a hunk of junk and have them.
Why don't we just stick to the radio drama then.
We already had several sunset shots, that looks good but I think we need a late afternoon/early evening look.
vaderios said:^Nice one Ady.
Here is my try.
-Angel
That's perfect!
adywan said:Bingowings said:
love it. reminds me so much of my childhood. i loved that toy when i was a toddler
That sort of defeats the argument. Complaining about something needing removed because it reminds one of something else, look at cloud City, it looks like one of those spinning tops.
How about seeing the gas mine in one of the other cloud city shots? Even smaller would be cool.
On my mock up, I am confused, see the TOP of what? There is no more top to see of the mine!
I made the gas mine refinery even smaller so it could still be there but to not take away from the city.
adywan said:Sevb32 said:Ripplin said:^Who said it was hated? Lots here like it. I seem to remember Ady saying he liked it, too. Or at least sort of liked it.
In Post 8642 Ady says he's always hated it. Why? I don't know.
i hated it because it looked so out of place in that shot. its so badly composited and the original pod car was so much better. It always stuck out like a sore thumb to me.
Then why didn't you try making it look "BETTER COMPOSITED" with all your skills? Why can't both the cloud car and the floating gas mine be there? I can focus on more than one thing in a shot, as long as Cloud City itself looks bigger in the shot, perhaps making the mine smaller or more in the distance?
Ripplin said:^Who said it was hated? Lots here like it. I seem to remember Ady saying he liked it, too. Or at least sort of liked it.
In Post 8642 Ady says he's always hated it. Why? I don't know.
Why is the refinery hated? It was an original McQuarrie design, NOT something just cooked up for the SE. It was something McQuarrie drew at the time of the OT.
But the Star Destroyer Bridge and Tantive IV buttons and knobs in EP3 look just like the OT. More to do with aesthetics than technology.
