Scruffy

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Post: #218579
Topic: Remember when everyone hated Return of the Jedi?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/218579/action/topic#218579
Time: 14-Jun-2006 5:44 PM

The prequels don't ruin the OT. They can't. No matter how outlandish and bizarre the PT's take on the Star Wars universe is, the OT is still there, immutable.

Or, well ... you know what I mean.

Post: #218175
Topic: What scene in the (O-)OT do you hate/dislike the most?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/218175/action/topic#218175
Time: 13-Jun-2006 6:25 AM

Darth-Adroit ... Can I print that out and use it for my next board? "Sir, this guy says that I have a firm grasp of small unit leadership and the role of an NCO. It was on a message board, sir. A Star Wars message board. We were discussing the cordon and search of Mos Eisley, and I was defending the position that Luke and the droids ... yessir, mountain climbers, how many?"

I'm only a Reserve SPC, btw. Never been anywhere, never done anything. But if I can pass for a BTDT NCO, then something in the training must be sticking. Hooah!

While we're on the subject, what do you think about approaching Star Wars as a legitimate fictional military history? I've found that those who approach the Trilogy as such, like Saxtonor Wong tend to have the most interesting discussions.

Post: #218173
Topic: Why all the negative coments about george lucas?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/218173/action/topic#218173
Time: 13-Jun-2006 6:16 AM

I think any attempt to find political or moral messages in the PT is doomed to failure. Any indicator of such a message is so muddled that it could be interpreted as

a) poorly handled nuance, or

b) poorly handled superficial exposition.

Case in point: The contradictory argument that "Only Sith deal in absolutes." Is this supposed to be an indictment of the Jedi Order? Clearly, there are many parallels between the Jedi and the most odious and venal quasi-military groups today (recruiting children, religious indoctrination, use of force apart from legal authority). Was this the clincher, the final bit of proof we needed that Star Wars is morally relativistic and the Jedi are just as bad as the Sith?

On the other hand, George does not seem capable of such topical or profound statements. His latest hobby horse is the idea that Star Wars is a "Saturday morning serial," and anyone looking for a plot will be shot, etc.

Is George an inspired filmmaker who just isn't inspired enough to take a thematic stand, or is he a blind man wandering into a useful, if confused, narrative?

Post: #218171
Topic: We have to buy this set atleast to preserve it for the next generation of fans
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/218171/action/topic#218171
Time: 13-Jun-2006 6:08 AM

Twenty years from now, no one will be willing to watch some smeary 4:3 laserdisc master dumped onto the obsolete DVD format.

Someone probably said that about the Bible, but good philosophy has a pretty long shelf life.

And there are only a handful of scholars reading smeary, falling-apart Aramaic and Koine copies of the Bible.

Post: #217939
Topic: ORIGINAL STAR WARS TRILOGY OUT 09/2006 BY LUCASFILM
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/217939/action/topic#217939
Time: 12-Jun-2006 1:21 PM

Begging your pardon, but it's adequate for you. Were it perfect, it would be suitable for you both today, and in the foreseeable future. If you never foresee yourself watching it on a 16:9 television, a computer monitor, or a projector -- whether owned by yourself or someone else -- then it might be perfect. (And I'm really stretching the definition of perfect.)

Post: #217618
Topic: End of SE ROTJ...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/217618/action/topic#217618
Time: 10-Jun-2006 5:12 AM

Luke does a pretty good job of following Ben's eyes and body language when they have their chat in RotJ. I think he saw him.

Post: #217615
Topic: I would prefer a special special edition :O)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/217615/action/topic#217615
Time: 10-Jun-2006 5:09 AM

Originally posted by: chrisdo
I've been talking about perfection. The CGI Whitzehouse will definitely look better than the original. It is not real, it looks better. In reality there is a lot of dirt no matter how much you clean it

)

I like the perfection of cgi graphics and at least they look much better than those old muppet tricks

)

Chris

See ... my view, and probably the majority view, is that visual effects should duplicate reality as closely as possible. A perfect CGI White House would include every piece of dirt, every nick, every scratch, and every streak on the window. If it lacks any of these things, it is imperfect; it is not a perfectly true representation of the reality.

A model that looks "better" than its subject will inherently look stylized, even "cartoonish" to some people. That is why great care is usually taken to make CGI models look weathered, used, dirty, etc. Notice that the X-Wings in the Special Edition do not have perfectly scrubbed exteriors with fresh paint jobs. That's an example of good CGI; not coincidentally, it's also an example of CGI that was created to match an existing model.

Post: #217613
Topic: The Other side of the 30th Anniversary
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/217613/action/topic#217613
Time: 10-Jun-2006 5:00 AM

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In twenty years when everyone has 3D goggles at home will anyone think it is a gimmick? Widescreen now isn't. Colour now isn't. Sound now isn't. Am I going too extreme? Remember what Harry M. Warner said in 1927, the year before the first of the talkies; 'Who the hell wants to hear actors talk?!'.
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At the time, nobody. The actors weren't known for their mellifluous voices; they were known for their abilities to look pretty and emote with great elan. When talkies started, there was a transitional period ... it took time to find the right way to distribute soundtracks, and to create good soundtracks in the first place. Clara Bow, due to her voice, was no longer the It Girl. But Hollywood quickly learned to do it right, and sound is now considered something of a standard for most movies.

Three-D has been in an extended form of this transformational stage. With luck, we've finally ironed out the technical problems and we can get a standardized process set up. (And theaters be darned, I want to see this on 1080p discs.) I'm not sure if we'll still run into any "artistic" problems with the process, but anything is possible. This is the industry that managed to screw up two different Star Wars DVD releases, after all. (And I expect the mistimed film that ILM sent to Lowry will be used for the threedeification.)

Post: #217610
Topic: ROTS: Is there a single one?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/217610/action/topic#217610
Time: 10-Jun-2006 4:49 AM

If the ending credits aren't CGI, what are they? Seriously ... how'd they shoot credit scrolls before CGI?

Post: #217570
Topic: I would prefer a special special edition :O)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/217570/action/topic#217570
Time: 9-Jun-2006 10:19 PM

Imperator is, roughly, Latin for "commander" (imperium being the power to command). It is the origin for our word Emperor. Though it was not used exclusively by Roman Emperors, who adopted a number of titles -- chief among them princeps, dominus, and basileus in the East.

Also, according to some sources, it's the class name of the common Star Destroyer of the original trilogy.

Post: #217421
Topic: The Other side of the 30th Anniversary
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/217421/action/topic#217421
Time: 9-Jun-2006 5:11 AM

So, Lucas has six movies to dimensionalize and exhibit. The Popular Science article I read on the process suggests one will be released each year. I don't know if/how 3D movies will be available on home video, but I'm guessing HD media is more than adequate -- that's six BD movies to release, starting as early as 2008. Lucas may be reticent and hold out on the home 3D releases until more people have Blu-Ray players, or his favored format may lose the war. In any case, I doubt it'll be a tentpole product.

And let's not forget the long-rumored 2007 Ultimate Definitive Final Saga Boxed Set! That ought to be good for about two years, before they break the movies out and sell them individually. After that, there's VOD rights, then cable, then network TV.

In addition to the movies, there's the SW TV show starting around 2008. In accordance with TV series practices, expect DVD/BD releases to begin around 2009. It will have to last at least five seasons to be syndicated, so expect DVD releases until 2014.

If they time it right, Lucasfilm will have at least one major release every year for many years to come. Their plate is full until 2015, at least. Around 2016, expect the rumbling for a proper release of the O-OT to begin again.

Post: #217395
Topic: I would prefer a special special edition :O)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/217395/action/topic#217395
Time: 9-Jun-2006 2:17 AM

Heeeeere we go again
Same old **** again

and i hate that technological imperfection. i think star wars is future

A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away ...

A long time ago ...

A LONG TIME AGO.

Post: #216965
Topic: What is meant by 'Special Edition'?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/216965/action/topic#216965
Time: 7-Jun-2006 5:18 PM

You are correct that only the 1997 edition was ever subtitled or advertised as the Special Edition. In 2000, Lucasfilm rereleased the Special Edition on VHS as simply the "Star Wars Trilogy." However, the 2004 edition is colloquially (and occasionally officially) referred to as the Special Edition, too. You can speculate all you want about why they're so coy over which version is which, but I don't think you'll ever reach a firm answer.

Post: #216962
Topic: Luke's rope-throwing talents in EP4
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/216962/action/topic#216962
Time: 7-Jun-2006 5:11 PM

I remember Ray Stantz getting possessed by Vigo and trying to crash the Ecto-1A into a tree.

"Ray, what're you doing? You're gonna kill someone!"

"No! I'm gonna kill all of us!" *wham*

I'm pretty sure that was shot, or at least storyboarded, because there's a scene where Ray gets mesmerized by the painting that doesn't really lead to anything. (I don't think it was necessary to telegraph that Vigo was going to take over Ray in the final encounter.)

Upon reflection, I may have seen that in some kind of secondary media ... a book or whatever. Might explain why I remember Ray as a shorter, pudgier Dave Coulier.

Now what's this about the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles?

Post: #216746
Topic: Should there be an ULTIMATE EDITION!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/216746/action/topic#216746
Time: 6-Jun-2006 11:14 PM

Let's have the Ultimate Gradiose Incredible 3-D Expanded Penultimate No Holds Barred Bodacious Radical Awesome Blow Your Mind Bootylicious Paradigm Shift Rewire Your Senses Squeeze You Out of Your Mother's Womb Like Totally Again edition.

How can something be ultimate and penultimate? We might as well make it antepenultimate, too.

Post: #216553
Topic: Info: found - Revenge Of The Sith in 1080i
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/216553/action/topic#216553
Time: 6-Jun-2006 3:12 AM

Bah. NTSC 480p is good enough. Who needs anamorphic?

Seriously ... I've been avoiding TV for the last few days, for work and recovery reasons. But this offering might get me back. It's a prequel, but still, it's shiny and candy-like.

Post: #216373
Topic: ORIGINAL STAR WARS TRILOGY OUT 09/2006 BY LUCASFILM
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/216373/action/topic#216373
Time: 5-Jun-2006 4:31 PM

I say we all call Lucas bluff. Let's make this set sell better than the 2004 set.

You can't call a bluff if you're not holding any cards.

Post: #216364
Topic: 10 Other Things That Han Shot That Didn't Shoot At Him First
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/216364/action/topic#216364
Time: 5-Jun-2006 4:00 PM

Maybe, maybe not. They were captured by Devastator. Vader took Leia with him to the Death Star so he could personally interrogate her. There's no way to tell whether the other crewmembers and embarked personnel were transferred to the Death Star, kept on Devastator, or delivered to an intelligence facility for interrogation. My money's on them being on the Death Star, though; what's the point of having bajillions of prison cells if you're not going to use them?

Post: #216075
Topic: Info Wanted: Someone Fill Me In Here... the "X0" project
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/216075/action/topic#216075
Time: 4-Jun-2006 1:21 PM

http://www.x0project.com/ <-- the website
http://www.originaltrilogy.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=9&threadid=3548 <-- the thread (on the second page of the preservation forum, no less)

Post: #215986
Topic: Luke's rope-throwing talents in EP4
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/215986/action/topic#215986
Time: 4-Jun-2006 1:57 AM

I don't remember this scene, but I do remember Leia kissing Luke and missing on her first try in ESB.

Post: #215601
Topic: who wood win - suprman or anukin lol
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/215601/action/topic#215601
Time: 2-Jun-2006 6:25 AM

My problem is I didn't spend enough time in the library when a highly-ranked school was paying me to do so. But that's neither here nor there, and I really don't want to go wherever it is. And I'm nowhere near nerd fringe culture. I don't do "furry," or "cosplay," and have only dabbled in role playing games. I'm a mainstream nerd. Unfortunately, that means I also don't do intarweb dating, so I guess I will have to write your splooshy roommate off as the one who got away. Tell her that it was better to have loved and lost ... however that goes. It's Shakespeare, I think; but not Hamlet, so not worth remembering.

As for Loeb ... hmm. I think TLH/DV and Hush are very stylish achievements, but storywise, they're no Dark Knight. I read one or two arcs from B/S and left it alone. I want to pick up When in Rome sometime, since I kind of like his take on Selina Kyle. I also like the completely opposite take on her from Miller, Newhart, and Cooke. It's all good. Catwoman is hard to do wrong. (Though Pitof and Berry certainly proved it's possible.)

Post: #215590
Topic: who wood win - suprman or anukin lol
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/215590/action/topic#215590
Time: 2-Jun-2006 3:56 AM

Dark Lord, tell your female roommate to send me a PM. I am -- strangely enough -- underloved for someone who has a working knowledge of both research techniques and DC continuity history.

As for whineyness overpowering a bioelectric field, I must agree. Superman always seems to be at his weakest when surrounded by angst. This has historically been blamed on the writers, but it may be that adolescent ennui has a deleterious effect on his Kryptonian metabolism. See any appearance of Superman in a Frank Miller Batman book.

(Incidentally, I *love* The Dark Knight Returns and recommend it to everyone here. Just in case you haven't already read it and been overpowered by its greatness.)

Post: #215546
Topic: who wood win - suprman or anukin lol
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/215546/action/topic#215546
Time: 1-Jun-2006 10:51 PM

We used to live on "Earth Prime," but that Earth along with most of the others was destroyed during the Crisis on Infinite Earths. Then it was revealed that the post-Crisis Earth is slightly larger than the Marvel Earth, accounting for the extra cities like Metropolis, Gotham, etc. We obviously don't live on the Marvel Earth, but I think we, too, live on a smaller Earth. Since the appearance of a Superman seems to be linked to the existence of Metropolis, and our Earth is too small to host a Metropolis, there's almost no way any incarnation of Superman could exist here.

Unless this is a version of Earth Prime that wasn't destroyed in the Crisis (different timeline, you know), in which case somewhere there's an Earth Prime Superman ... but he's as bad as Anakin; the one from the Crisis Multiverse recently tried to destroy the DC Universe and went on a whiny rampage. (Another reason I don't read the monthly books.)

Our best bet for getting these two together is a reconceptualization ... we must model them in a computer. Perhaps we can distribute the computation load over a number of systems, like SETI@home does. It's certainly just as important.

As for lightsabers ... I kind of doubt they'd even scratch him. Even if they did, he still has super speed to react and fly away from danger. And it's unlikely that kryptonite would be used in constructing a lightsaber, seeing as kryptonite is, you know, only found in the remains of the planet Krypton.

Post: #215525
Topic: who wood win - suprman or anukin lol
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/215525/action/topic#215525
Time: 1-Jun-2006 8:14 PM

If I remember correctly, conceptualization is when you decide what is going to be measured, and operationalization is when you decide how you're going to measure it.

Conceptualization stage:

Turanga Leela and Amy Wong, both well-rested, will be pitted against each other in an oil wrestling match to determine the superior slippery wrestler using Traditional Apefight Rules.

Operationalization stage:

Construct wrestling arena of given size, lay down plastic tarp, slather with 25.7 gallons of baby oil, etc ... using Traditional Apefight Rules, whomever scores three points first wins.

Post: #215455
Topic: Darth vader
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/215455/action/topic#215455
Time: 1-Jun-2006 4:11 PM

Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape

Originally posted by: Scruffy
Guys, you're all overthinking this.

It's his head.

Well, isn't that the nerd calling the geek obsessed? ^_~

Er, no. Not in any way I can figure out. If it helps, I was responding to the original and dominant topic of the "meditation chamber," not the tanget about his cranium.