Because everyone on this forum loves RedLetterMedia so much:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9hwGZFPSmw
I like RedLetterMedia. But really have only watched their prequels and specialized OT video rants.
Looks like there actually was an agenda in all this ST.
Sadly fairy tales all root in the old world.
Please fire Kennedy
Please fire yourself (from being a poster in this thread).
Someone’s getting a little defensive.
I reckon he’s allowed to be concerned about modern day politics infiltrating Star Wars.
Right, how dare they give women equal footing.
Not really the point. Women have always been the smart ones in command in Star Wars.
Point is, telling someone to go away because you disagree with them is not a valid argument.
There are exactly 4 women with speaking roles in the OT. Three of them have less than a minute of screen time.
He said to fire Kennedy because she has an agenda. I don’t see why I should have to make a valid argument when he isn’t either. Calling for her to be fired is just as inflaming, if not more so.
Star Wars is in another galaxy far far away.
So the “humans” are aliens who just look like humans. This isn’t something happening on Earth.
Also, most of the OT is pretty much in a warzone. If you watch WWII type movies, there aren’t a lot of women in the warzone, etc.
The original negative is conformed to the Special Edition, which was not fully digitized until the DVD master was made. However, Lucasfilm likely stored the pieces of the negative they removed, and they have recently been archiving every single piece of film and audio they have. So in a sense, the original negative has been digitized, but it’s not assembled or restored.
Do you know what resolution the negatives were digitized in? i.e. 1080P?
Really hope Lucasfilm has digitized all their OT recordings in the highest quality available. Things like music and sound effects, etc.
Hi all, this is my first post, but I’ve been an admirer of Harmy’s work for some time. I really enjoy Star Wars Despecialized Edition, but I had one problem with it that was really bothering me: I think that for all of the mistakes Lucas made when he was creating the special editions, his decision to include the scene of Luke and Biggs meeting in the hangar was a good one. Up until that point we had only ever heard passing references to Biggs, and other than a brief line later on mentioning “beggar’s canyon back home”, there is really no indication that the Biggs who is flying as Luke’s wingman is the same Biggs he grew up with on Tatooine. The scene in the hanger firmly establishes that this is indeed the same Biggs, and it shows us how close the two of them really are as friends (this is even more important seeing as all of Biggs’ scenes from the beginning of the movie got cut in post-production).
The reason this scene is so vital is because it gives emotional weight to Biggs’ subsequent death during the Battle of Yavin, which otherwise does not have much more of an impact than the deaths of the many others who died during that battle. Remember that Luke grew up as an only child, and Biggs was the closest thing he had to a younger brother; by making us see Biggs as a close friend of Luke’s with whom he looks forward to spending a bright future fighting alongside, it becomes all the more tragic when that life is suddenly cut short so close to the end of the battle. I am firmly of the opinion that not only was it a good idea to add this scene back into the Special Edition, but that the scene should never have been cut in the first place.
I decided I wanted to do something about this, so I ripped the scene from the 2011 Blu-Ray version and went about editing it back into Harmy’s Despecialized Edition. This actually took longer than I expected, as I had to make a lot of adjustments to get the color to match with the rest of the film. In spite of this, and after a few hours of tinkering with the color balance, gamma, contrast, and various filters (and a few more hours of trying to get my cheap editing software to export properly without introducing any glitches or artifacts), I think I got it just right. It isn’t “archival quality”, as due to disk space restraints I was working with a 720p down-scaled version of Harmy’s original (which also helped to speed up the rendering time somewhat). However, it still looks great and is a reasonable enough size for anyone to be able to download. Below I have included a Google Drive link for a before-and-after screenshot, as well as a link for the file itself. Since I imagine that the mods would not be happy with me directly linking to the entire movie, I will instead link to a page on pastebin where the direct link can be found.
Screenshot: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UarulnvFCf3-esqwC_BSp1h0rQjuDDHM/view?usp=drivesdk
Movie: link deleted by moderator.
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One problem with that scene is if I remember correctly, I believe Lucas had to edit out Biggs talking about Luke’s father or something. And so that scene in the Blu-Ray’s has R2-D2 looks like he jumps up when he is being raised up due to part of it being edited out. I’m sure though that could have probably been fixed by them isolating R2-D2 and his lift and rotoscoping it in so R2-D2 doesn’t have that jump up effect. I’ve not looked at it in a while, so don’t know if they’d have to CGI in some parts of R2-D2 depending on if actors are covering up part of R2-D2 to make that fix not work without CGI fixing it.
He said he doesn’t care or notice about the big R2 jump. And Adywan has indeed fixed this (I was impressed that I didn’t really see any seams/problems).
Anyway, I suppose this is off topic unless this guy makes a fan edit thread.
Yeah, I read later down that he “didn’t care” after I posted that.
Though for me it doesn’t matter as I’m just interested in the Harmy despecialized version.
^
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Star-Wars-Despecialized-Editions-Custom-Bluray-Set/id/49995
Thanks. I’ve never seen that thread before.
Those are reasonable points and I understand your goals. Nevertheless, I would love to see the shaky version in a fan restoration/scan.
The one thing I love about modern technology and older movies being remastered for Blu-Ray is they can fix the “shaky” film and things like the logo and ending credits shaking. I believe they use software that automatically corrects the shakiness by digitally re-aligning each frame. I remember always hating the shakiness of film that doesn’t happen anymore with modern movies. Kind of like always hating matte lines in the older movies that we no longer have to deal with in new movies and digital/CGI.
Though they don’t always fix the shaking logos for Blu-Ray releases of older movies.
I’m also really glad we don’t much have to deal with terrible film grain anymore in new movies. I’m one of those that has always hated film grain.
Hi all, this is my first post, but I’ve been an admirer of Harmy’s work for some time. I really enjoy Star Wars Despecialized Edition, but I had one problem with it that was really bothering me: I think that for all of the mistakes Lucas made when he was creating the special editions, his decision to include the scene of Luke and Biggs meeting in the hangar was a good one. Up until that point we had only ever heard passing references to Biggs, and other than a brief line later on mentioning “beggar’s canyon back home”, there is really no indication that the Biggs who is flying as Luke’s wingman is the same Biggs he grew up with on Tatooine. The scene in the hanger firmly establishes that this is indeed the same Biggs, and it shows us how close the two of them really are as friends (this is even more important seeing as all of Biggs’ scenes from the beginning of the movie got cut in post-production).
The reason this scene is so vital is because it gives emotional weight to Biggs’ subsequent death during the Battle of Yavin, which otherwise does not have much more of an impact than the deaths of the many others who died during that battle. Remember that Luke grew up as an only child, and Biggs was the closest thing he had to a younger brother; by making us see Biggs as a close friend of Luke’s with whom he looks forward to spending a bright future fighting alongside, it becomes all the more tragic when that life is suddenly cut short so close to the end of the battle. I am firmly of the opinion that not only was it a good idea to add this scene back into the Special Edition, but that the scene should never have been cut in the first place.
I decided I wanted to do something about this, so I ripped the scene from the 2011 Blu-Ray version and went about editing it back into Harmy’s Despecialized Edition. This actually took longer than I expected, as I had to make a lot of adjustments to get the color to match with the rest of the film. In spite of this, and after a few hours of tinkering with the color balance, gamma, contrast, and various filters (and a few more hours of trying to get my cheap editing software to export properly without introducing any glitches or artifacts), I think I got it just right. It isn’t “archival quality”, as due to disk space restraints I was working with a 720p down-scaled version of Harmy’s original (which also helped to speed up the rendering time somewhat). However, it still looks great and is a reasonable enough size for anyone to be able to download. Below I have included a Google Drive link for a before-and-after screenshot, as well as a link for the file itself. Since I imagine that the mods would not be happy with me directly linking to the entire movie, I will instead link to a page on pastebin where the direct link can be found.
Screenshot: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UarulnvFCf3-esqwC_BSp1h0rQjuDDHM/view?usp=drivesdk
Movie: link deleted by moderator.
Moderator Note: If members are in any doubt as to the site and fan edit / preservation rules - even after reading them, then please ask a moderator - BEFORE putting up links - thank you.
One problem with that scene is if I remember correctly, I believe Lucas had to edit out Biggs talking about Luke’s father or something. And so that scene in the Blu-Ray’s has R2-D2 looks like he jumps up when he is being raised up due to part of it being edited out. I’m sure though that could have probably been fixed by them isolating R2-D2 and his lift and rotoscoping it in so R2-D2 doesn’t have that jump up effect. I’ve not looked at it in a while, so don’t know if they’d have to CGI in some parts of R2-D2 depending on if actors are covering up part of R2-D2 to make that fix not work without CGI fixing it.
Haha! Awesome! Now I need to get me hands on those njvc BD’s and I’ll be set!
The Blu-ray ISO’s made by NJVC are fantastic. For now they’re the only way I watch the original trilogy.
I love the extras, but, oof, those menus…
What Harmy edit versions do you think are best for directly being able to burn to a Blu-Ray disc that has menus? I’ve been hoping someone designed real good Blu-Ray menus for these edits so we can burn them direct to Blu-Ray and the menus look something like what we get with the official versions or something high quality looking.
Haha! Awesome! Now I need to get me hands on those njvc BD’s and I’ll be set!
The Blu-ray ISO’s made by NJVC are fantastic. For now they’re the only way I watch the original trilogy.
Is that the Harmy edits that someone took and removed all the foreign language tracks and put a Blu-Ray menu on it? i.e. you can burn the file directly to a Blu-Ray disc without having to do anything to it? That’s the version of Harmy edits I’ve been looking for.
Also, what good Blu-Ray burning software do people recommend? I’d want one that also let me do a surface scan of the Blu-Ray disc so I know the Blu-Ray is perfect. As I plan on ALSO using it to burn backup data to Blu-Ray discs as well.
What exactly is Adywan’s distribution system?
I’ve not done a lot of research. But it seems like Lucas was pretty good to the fan base. i.e. not policing things like fan created stuff like he could have. And also I believe they released original sound recordings so people could use them for their fan projects like those custom lightsabers with sound effects?
Imagine if 20th Century Fox had been in control of Star Wars, i.e. Lucas didn’t have in his contract that he controlled the brand. Then I think a lot of these fan projects and things would have probably been policed and shut down. And we probably wouldn’t have gotten access to original sound recordings and things.
Right now, Nintendo is pretty bad at policing fan stuff. Do they not understand that a lot of this fan stuff actually helps promote their products and probably increases their sales?
Did Lucas scan and digitize the original negatives? i.e. is there a digital scan of the original negatives siting on a hard drive somewhere in Lucasfilm? And what resolution were those scanned at in the early 90’s?
I know those original negatives were pink and trashed in the early 90’s when Lucas scanned them or whatever he did. And so I’m guessing 20+ years later, that those negatives are now pretty trashed and may not even be suitable to do a 4K scan on?
I’m looking forward to those 4K scans or whatever is going on with those original 35mm positive prints that are in private collections where the colors still look very good.
I still think in 5-10 years, we’ll see lots of hate for the ST.
Five to ten years? I’m seeing so much hate already, the vast majority of which I wholly disagree with.
I’ve mentioned it before. So that post wasn’t clear. What I meant was the people who “like” the ST now. I think many of those in 5-10 will change their minds like what happened with the prequels. As there were people who didn’t like the prequels at the time. But it seemed like a lot of people who liked them at the time, then 5-10 years later changed their minds.
There can be no reasoning with people who waited and two years for Luke Skywalker to show up only (and didnt mind him) to be a comic relief throwing away his fathers lightsaber - people laughing at that joke will buy anything and defend anyting star wars.
I was hoping we got a lot of Luke in TFA. But we didn’t. So I waited two years to see a badass Luke with lightsaber battles, etc. like we got in the extended universe. But it was a huge letdown.
It’s like, why bother? What really was the point to bring Luke back to pretty much waste an opportunity?
I remember 2-4 year ago Youtube commentators talking about the Luke they wanted to see in the new movies, i.e. extended universe stuff they cherry picked. And then now we got none of that and they love it anyways like this is the Luke they wanted all along.
I still think in 5-10 years, we’ll see lots of hate for the ST.
I really think Disney should have cherry picked the most popular stuff in the extended universe and used that for the ST. I think it would have pleased most Star Wars fans, but still allowed them to also do their own thing as well.
I really wonder, if Empire versus rebels 2.0, and particulary Luke’s deflation as a character, and Rey’s simultaneous rapid inflation is really worth the journey from a saga perspective. It’s an entertaining enough story, but I don’t really see what it adds to the saga as a whole. I think it actually takes away from it, to be honest, in a much more fundamental way than the PT.
I’ve gotta say Dre, I’m really on the fence here myself. As disappointed as I was/am with ROTJ as a film, I was satisfied with it as a definitive conclusion. I never got into the EU or the Marvel series beyond 1983 because I really felt the story had been told. As fun as it is to have more Star Wars, I’m finding myself increasingly drawn to the ‘head-canon’ notion of sticking with the (unaltered) OT as the real deal and seeing all other SW material as a kind of ‘what if’ fan-fic realm.
The thing that really saved ROTJ is the Emperor scenes. Those scenes are my favorite in all of the Star Wars movies.
Ryan said:
I even remember the movie ‘A Series of Unfortunate Events’ in the theater and the boom mic kept dropping down into the picture all throughout the movie. Then on the DVD release, they must have digitally removed the boom mic as I didn’t see it drop into picture like in the theater.Wasn’t sure if this was answered yet, but that was because the theater had the wrong mask/lens setup. It has been known to happen, but I’ve never witnessed it. Same thing can happen on movie home releases if they screw it up.
Are you talking film or digital? I know that movie was on film as the theater hadn’t been converted to digital yet.
I’ve never heard of a mask/lens setup in the theater that you are talking about. But I could clearly see that a boom mic kept dropping down in the picture throughout the movie. If the boom mic was caught on film in the picture as it was filmed, then I don’t really see what the theater could/would do about it.
Though I know they fixed it for the DVD release.
But I think George Lucas wanted to sell toys, and thus needed Storm Troopers and the Empire in the old trilogy.
Seriously, anyone who only complains about Disney marketing apparently is too young to remember the OT marketing.
I’m not talking about marketing that comes naturally out of a movie. But I do think they put the New Order and new Storm Troopers into the story to sell toys vs. it being needed or wanted in the progression of the story past ROTJ.
I mean look at the clone troopers in AOTC. That was there to serve the story i.e. Luke in ANH talking about Obi-Wan fighting in the Clone Wars.
LOL (and I never use LOL). Do you really think the Phase II clone troopers, different color armor paint, and different clone trooper classes in ROTS had nothing to do with marketing and selling toys? That all that was there to “serve the story?”
It can be both. But the Clone Troopers served the story first. There was a Clone Wars that happened before Obi-Wan and Anakin fought on the volcano. Plus it helps to establish the Storm Troopers in OT even though I know a lot of them by then weren’t clones anymore.
From reading things years ago. It seems like in the 80’s and 90’s a lot of people were theorizing what was the Clone Wars and the talk of the fight between Obi-Wan and Anakin on the side of a volcano. So those things being in the prequels served the story. Though I’m sure they loved selling clone trooper toys too.
But I think George Lucas wanted to sell toys, and thus needed Storm Troopers and the Empire in the old trilogy.
Seriously, anyone who only complains about Disney marketing apparently is too young to remember the OT marketing.
I’m not talking about marketing that comes naturally out of a movie. But I do think they put the New Order and new Storm Troopers into the story to sell toys vs. it being needed or wanted in the progression of the story past ROTJ.
I mean look at the clone troopers in AOTC. That was there to serve the story i.e. Luke in ANH talking about Obi-Wan fighting in the Clone Wars.
Speaking of other message boards, I just read this on another one, and it’s spot on.
All this discussion and posting really shows the tough part about working on franchises like this - I doubt there was nearly this much discussion, theorizing and fanboying for the original trilogy. It was fresh and there was no internet, not to mention no years of backstories, extended universe and ages for people to decide what Star Wars was to them. I don’t think you could ever make a perfect movie now for it that will satisfy everyone or even most people - again that’s why I respect Rian for doing what he did in this film.
This is why I originally felt that the original main characters like Luke, Leia, and Han shouldn’t be in the new trilogy.
But then I thought about it and changed my mind as I was expecting to have a badass all powerful Luke Skywalker. I figured it’d be worth the risk to be able to see a Luke kicking ass. But then we didn’t even get that. Oh well.
I doubt two years ago people would have said they wanted a Luke Skywalker who was living like a hermit in isolation and doesn’t really do anything in the movie as far as Jedi battles go, etc.
Oh, i think Luke was quite kick-ass in this.
What I mean is Luke doing Jedi master battles and things like in the extended universe. Or even something like the lightsaber battles in the prequels. We didn’t get any of that.
Thank goodness.
Seconded. I don’t want to see Luke jumping around doing backflips and stuff like prequels Yoda.
I probably wouldn’t have wanted to see that either. But would have wanted something like the lightsaber battles in Empire or Jedi, but taken up a couple of notches.
I would have loved a new trilogy about the Jedi Temple and Luke running it but a new Sith Lord comes about and turns one of his powerful pupils to the dark side.
But I think Disney wanted to sell toys, and thus needed Storm Troopers and the New Order in this new trilogy.
You know what would be cool? A Netflix (or HBO or whatever) miniseries about Luke’s attempts to rebuild the Jedi before Kylo was born (or maybe Kylo’s a kid in it).
It could happen. Give Hamill more work and us more Luke. Please.
I’d love to see that. But I really doubt that will happen. Plus, I don’t really know how good it will be since it will have a small budget compared to it being a trilogy movie. So it would probably mostly be people sitting around talking the whole episode.
But I think George Lucas wanted to sell toys, and thus needed Storm Troopers and the Empire in this old trilogy.
I just don’t see the New Order, new Storm Troopers, and walkers, etc. being a progression in the story after ROTJ. It just has a retcon feel to it.
I really would like to read Lucas’s story treatment for “his” new trilogy that he sold to Disney. I’m guessing that’s locked up. Maybe Lucas told some friends who will share it down the road.
Speaking of other message boards, I just read this on another one, and it’s spot on.
All this discussion and posting really shows the tough part about working on franchises like this - I doubt there was nearly this much discussion, theorizing and fanboying for the original trilogy. It was fresh and there was no internet, not to mention no years of backstories, extended universe and ages for people to decide what Star Wars was to them. I don’t think you could ever make a perfect movie now for it that will satisfy everyone or even most people - again that’s why I respect Rian for doing what he did in this film.
This is why I originally felt that the original main characters like Luke, Leia, and Han shouldn’t be in the new trilogy.
But then I thought about it and changed my mind as I was expecting to have a badass all powerful Luke Skywalker. I figured it’d be worth the risk to be able to see a Luke kicking ass. But then we didn’t even get that. Oh well.
I doubt two years ago people would have said they wanted a Luke Skywalker who was living like a hermit in isolation and doesn’t really do anything in the movie as far as Jedi battles go, etc.
Oh, i think Luke was quite kick-ass in this.
What I mean is Luke doing Jedi master battles and things like in the extended universe. Or even something like the lightsaber battles in the prequels. We didn’t get any of that.
Thank goodness.
Seconded. I don’t want to see Luke jumping around doing backflips and stuff like prequels Yoda.
I probably wouldn’t have wanted to see that either. But would have wanted something like the lightsaber battles in Empire or Jedi, but taken up a couple of notches.
I would have loved a new trilogy about the Jedi Temple and Luke running it but a new Sith Lord comes about and turns one of his powerful pupils to the dark side.
But I think Disney wanted to sell toys, and thus needed Storm Troopers and the New Order in this new trilogy.
The lightsaber fight with the Praetor guards honestly seemed “Revenge of the Sith spinning lightsabers at each other” level.
The Praetor guards in the beginning kept spinning and running away from Rey and Kylo. When they did attack, they attacked in the same exact location in the same exact way (ex: overhead swing) and then scurried away when their attack was blocked. It was REALLY hilarious looking.
When the focus of the fight got onto them individually fighting the guards the choreography got better, but was still pretty wonky and hilarious (whip guy reeling in Rey, Rey swinging her lightsaber at nothing while Praetor guy just calmly walked up to her, etc)
Yes, I do think those lightsaber battles with the guards were rather hokey and too choreographed looking. Kind of like they were doing a dance.
This isn’t the only thing. But I do think part of the problem is that the actors playing Rey and Kylo probably aren’t naturally able to swing a sword and do all of those moves like someone who had been training in that for years. So they are probably limited to a heavily choreographed fight, etc. But part of the problem too is probably the person who designed the fights.
For example, look at Ray Park who played Darth Maul. He was trained in that in real life and you could tell he knew what he was doing.
The entire Disney Trilogy is screwed up thanks to TFA’s ANH-reboot and reset back to Empire vs. Rebels.
Lose the Starkiller base. New Republic is still in power. The First Order is a fringe secret organization in the outer rim, not The Empire again. They don’t have gigantic Dreadnaughts and Stealth Bomber ships.
The Last Jedi might have been a good movie on that smaller scale. (TFA would have been better as well.)
A single Star Destroyer and Rebel Transport locked in a lowspeed chase. That’s a potentially thrilling and dramatic set piece. U-Boat and Sink the Bismarck! vibes. (ALSO A CALLBACK TO THE OPENING OF A NEW HOPE).
As is, they required SO many universe-breaking gotchas to enable the main plot of the movie that the entire Leia/Po/Finn arcs were ruined. Rey/Kylo/Luke are the only things redeemable from this movie. Looking forward to The Last Edit.
I’m not totally familiar with the extended universe. But I think this new trilogy should have been centered around something like the Jedi Temple, or whatever was big like that in the extended universe. Have Luke running it. Then maybe there is a new Sith lord emerge and turn one of his pupils to the dark side and becomes his apprentice. And then maybe in 8 Luke battles the Sith lord and dies. And in 9 Luke’s “good” pupil takes on the Sith Lord and his apprentice.
I think something like that would have been a lot better then this New Order and the new Stormtroopers running around, etc.
This whole New Order and new Stormtroopers just feels like they are just trying to remake the OT instead of advancing the story beyond ROTJ.
But maybe we’ll get something like that in the new trilogy Disney is working on.
Speaking of other message boards, I just read this on another one, and it’s spot on.
All this discussion and posting really shows the tough part about working on franchises like this - I doubt there was nearly this much discussion, theorizing and fanboying for the original trilogy. It was fresh and there was no internet, not to mention no years of backstories, extended universe and ages for people to decide what Star Wars was to them. I don’t think you could ever make a perfect movie now for it that will satisfy everyone or even most people - again that’s why I respect Rian for doing what he did in this film.
This is why I originally felt that the original main characters like Luke, Leia, and Han shouldn’t be in the new trilogy.
But then I thought about it and changed my mind as I was expecting to have a badass all powerful Luke Skywalker. I figured it’d be worth the risk to be able to see a Luke kicking ass. But then we didn’t even get that. Oh well.
I doubt two years ago people would have said they wanted a Luke Skywalker who was living like a hermit in isolation and doesn’t really do anything in the movie as far as Jedi battles go, etc.
Oh, i think Luke was quite kick-ass in this.
What I mean is Luke doing Jedi master battles and things like in the extended universe. Or even something like the lightsaber battles in the prequels. We didn’t get any of that. Luke might as well been a nobody or a regular person in TLJ not counting the force projection thing he did at the end.
I think it was a huge missed opportunity. I think people were expecting to get a Luke like we got in the extended universe. I kept up with all the Luke theories people had passed 4 years that we were going to get, and none of them were even close to what we got.
I guess now the best we can hope to get something like that would be a post Jedi cartoon or something with Luke doing Jedi Master things.
This is sounding a lot like Yoda vs. Count Dooku in Attack of the Clones or Yoda vs. Emperor in Revenge of the Sith.
I don’t like the prequels. But I did like some of the lightsaber battles. I thought those were the high points of the prequels. I know people who hate the prequels generally say the lightsaber battles weren’t too bad. But I’m not saying those lightsaber battles were perfect or that I liked everything about them or liked every bit of choreography. But I thought they were in the right direction. It’s like they took the lightsaber battles in the OT and cranked it up a notch.
Speaking of other message boards, I just read this on another one, and it’s spot on.
All this discussion and posting really shows the tough part about working on franchises like this - I doubt there was nearly this much discussion, theorizing and fanboying for the original trilogy. It was fresh and there was no internet, not to mention no years of backstories, extended universe and ages for people to decide what Star Wars was to them. I don’t think you could ever make a perfect movie now for it that will satisfy everyone or even most people - again that’s why I respect Rian for doing what he did in this film.
This is why I originally felt that the original main characters like Luke, Leia, and Han shouldn’t be in the new trilogy.
But then I thought about it and changed my mind as I was expecting to have a badass all powerful Luke Skywalker. I figured it’d be worth the risk to be able to see a Luke kicking ass. But then we didn’t even get that. Oh well.
I doubt two years ago people would have said they wanted a Luke Skywalker who was living like a hermit in isolation and doesn’t really do anything in the movie as far as Jedi battles go, etc.
Oh, i think Luke was quite kick-ass in this.
What I mean is Luke doing Jedi master battles and things like in the extended universe. Or even something like the lightsaber battles in the prequels. We didn’t get any of that. Luke might as well been a nobody or a regular person in TLJ not counting the force projection thing he did at the end.
I think it was a huge missed opportunity. I think people were expecting to get a Luke like we got in the extended universe. I kept up with all the Luke theories people had passed 4 years that we were going to get, and none of them were even close to what we got.
I guess now the best we can hope to get something like that would be a post Jedi cartoon or something with Luke doing Jedi Master things.