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#1019341
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Rogue One * <em>Spoilers</em> * Thread
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SilverWook said:

Ronster said:

SilverWook said:

I imagine someone is already planning a fan edit making RO and Star Wars into one movie. 😉

Yeah I think Disney will do that TBH.

I would not be surprised at special event screenings of the 2 films with the Gap Bridged by that Luke Binocular Shot.

It’s the Perfect Transition Shot to Make the 2 films join up. And it’s pretty easy to do…

So now I am wondering before even seeing the film what an amazing Blu-Ray this could be there must be so many stories to tell… Looking Back at all the Rumors about Bobba Fett also as that was obviously the Teaser that they made during this film production…But Wires got crossed or did they?

There must be tonnes of Material they have left for this film!!! I doubt we would see the other version but perhaps bit’s of it.

There is a Graphic Novel Comic coming that will explain a larger more detailed version of the Story with more plot threads (Some not filmed) apparently.

There was/is a Boba Fett teaser?

It was filmed and then cancelled (Teaser).

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SilverWook said:

I imagine someone is already planning a fan edit making RO and Star Wars into one movie. 😉

Yeah I think Disney will do that TBH.

I would not be surprised at special event screenings of the 2 films with the Gap Bridged by that Luke Binocular Shot.

It’s the Perfect Transition Shot to Make the 2 films join up. And it’s pretty easy to do…

So now I am wondering before even seeing the film what an amazing Blu-Ray this could be there must be so many stories to tell… Looking Back at all the Rumors about Bobba Fett also as that was obviously the Teaser that they made during this film production…But Wires got crossed or did they?

There must be tonnes of Material they have left for this film!!! I doubt we would see the other version but perhaps bit’s of it.

There is a Graphic Novel Comic coming that will explain a larger more detailed version of the Story with more plot threads (Some not filmed) apparently.

I think Edrio is now either called Benthic or his twin is called Benthic… Confusing or what?

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#1019184
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Zkinandbonez is there any chance you could roughly tell us what scenes are not in the film from the trailers?

I have heard that the Tie Fighter on the Gantry is Gone all the running with the plan’s are gone. But nobody has really talked about how much is gone?

I am just curious how much from the trailers was either from prior to reshoot / Deleted Scenes or simply Marketing…

I go on Friday to see it. I don’t want to know so much what is in it but what we have seen that is not…

Somebody said around about 85% if it’s easier to say what is in the film from the trailers then that is fine.

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#1018945
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If they used that new Vocal Augmentation tool Adobe showed off recently they could have potentially got the computer to Augment Cushing’s real voice too…

Although I felt it sounded partially flawed and not 100% accurate but good tool, to do some of the donkey work mixed with real syllables and audio cut’s you could theoretically Have his voice spot on.

Not heard it yet though. It’s always the Audio that helps sell it nobody will ever forgive the audio 😃

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#1018911
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Looking at the incoming reviews they seem fairly positive on the whole with quirks and some of the same complaints mentioned.

This is going to be a bit of a divide on people reviewing it as any other film or as a “Star Wars” film.

Not saying some complaints won’t be accurate but I have seen some ludicrous statements and opinions. And some that seem relevant and fair.

I am pretty glad about the scores at the moment because the Reviews TFA got it almost was made out to be the best film made ever and for me it was totally hyped beyond what it was but It was not awful I was totally captivated the first 40 minutes.

But then I also fear that If the score is Low then it might be worse and the scores are being lenient… But something tells me that is not going to be the case. I have a feeling this will go the other way have quite an uncomfortable start and then things gradually become right which is a far better scenario than what I felt at TFA if I am honest.

But Shakey Start and Strong Ending do very much seem to ring true from a lot of comments. Anyway time will tell when we see it.

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Fang Zei said:

Ronster said:

It’s now time to stop looking at stuff I think… At least for me. Going to wait until I go to the cinema and see it.

George’s old flame might’ve said it best:

https://youtu.be/GI6mCtHcIvw

Nice… What a sorry state I am though I am addicted to this film… I wanted to drop this one for a laugh and it may help stave off looking elsewhere if you need a content cushion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doV94MFjte4

Notice the medical droid in the Background in the secret base on Jedha…(21B look alike with a different paint job)

Saw’s Leg…(Pun Intended!)

There is a whole bunch of interviews released with all the cast and crew nothing particularly ruining or any massive spoilers so it’s a relatively safe watch with a few giggles and a lot of people patting each other on the back but it’s something that you can watch that is not going to ruin the film.

There is a list of them here.

http://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2016/12/more-than-1-hour-of-behind-the-scenes-interviews-with-the-rogue-one-cast.html

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#1018232
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Enter the Dragon (a WIP)
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Just wanted to drop a small update…

I am nearly finished version 2. There is not much left to be done.

But a couple of surprises I have had with some small bits of missing footage and their relationship to the Audio.

The first instance is with regard to Bruce in His room when O’Hara come in and tells him “You must attend the morning Ritual in Uniform” Basically once this scene is over we cut to the Training grounds and the Karate training before the tournament begins. A missing shot here reveals why the Audio does not synch with the Men Punching… This then continues on until we get to the referee who’s lines are also are way out of Synch but now it is in synch. But because the Chinese actors mouthed their Lines phonetically this is slightly cut footage of the shot of the referee. But it works the same way as other shots of this nature were handled. So although it’s nothing amazingly exciting it just makes the film more plausible and it’s a nice discovery.

The second instance is when Bruce is in the Communications Hut in the underground Complex. Bruce uses the morse code machine. We then cut to the cameo of Robert Clouse decoding the message. Now here comes the missing shot. In the original film we cut to Bruce climbing out the Window and jumping down to be attacked by the guards there is no Alarm until he jumps out the window. But the missing shot is of the Alarm and when added it times out to be a small shot of the Alarm with the Sound and it fit’s seamlessly as a single extra Loop. Rectifying the absence of the sound of the Alarm which started much earlier.

So these 2 discoveries are a couple of reasons to be proud of discovering editing errors and rectifying them so that it lines up how it is actually meant to be experienced.

I have added some small extra snippets to the Cave Fight and have also extended the Mirror maze by about 5 seconds. Further Color Tweaking and more Audio Edits. I Might not Do the Extra End Credits I don’t think it would work. Very Close to wrapping this up.

There is potential for another 3 small snippets to be restored to the film. And a few extra frames of Han’s Smashed Reflection that are missing. a few audio edits too. But I could be practically done by next week.

EDIT - The small snippets are not in good enough quality so it leaves footage wise just the missing frames Hans Reflection and about 3 audio edits and a closing title card left to do.

Audio edits:
Missing shout Guard swinging the stick in Cave fight that smashes through the glass of Communications hut.
Fix Dodgy Music Fade during the Banquet introduced in the Special Edition Version Audio Mix
Restore Bruces shout before he Punches the reflection an error I introduced by accident.

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#1018231
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I’m actually a bit sad they did’nt get Liam Neeson for a bit part…

Apparently “I rebel” has been excised from the film. Good riddance to that cringe moment I say.

Similar to the Force Awakens a lot of the dialogue in the trailers probably will not be in the movie.

I’m guessing “Save the Rebellion, Save the Dream” will probably be gone too. Or it will be in a different form.

It’s now time to stop looking at stuff I think… At least for me. Going to wait until I go to the cinema and see it.

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#1018214
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http://furiousfanboys.com/2016/12/bail-organa-prequel-cameo-rogue-one/

Bail Organa is the only Prequel trilogy Cameo in Rogue One… Breathes sigh of Relief

The Running Time may have suddenly Lept up to 2 hours 18 Minutes as opposed to the given (2 hours and 14 approx.)

also

Peter Sciretta - @slashfilm Theres an amazing amount of footage/dialogue in the #RogueOne trailers and marketing that are not in the film, including Troopers in water.

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IMAX TV Spot - The POWAH we are dealing with here is… Awesome? I think I prefer immeasurable. couple of new shots in it though. The Blood / graze has gone from the soldiers head again… Let’s put my little pony back on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axebIgoIieQ

I fear the marketing campaign for this film could be very misleading as we are being shown 2 versions of the film in the trailers and my worst fears are we are going to get something that is not what was marketed for far longer until recent developments.

I bought my ticket to go next week I decided I could not wait until after Christmas could very well be my last ticket to a Star Wars film under Disney. It’s make or break time. I won’t be going to see episode 8 just not interested so I have 2 years to wait unless this is a clanger then I Bailing out!!! (actually coming to think of it I’m not interested in a Han Solo movie either) So it’s all or nothing.

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#1017385
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ZkinandBonez said:

“Introducing Jyn Erso” Featurette

Not a lot of new stuff here, but I did find this one BTS shot both interesting and weird.

In addition to the fact that those weird red-hooded monks that we saw a photo of earlier will very likely be a bit more than just background characters, there’s also some camels. Just regular real-life camels, nothing fancy added to them that I can see. I guess they might replace them with some CG creatures, and the SW-universe has had regular birds, lizards, snakes, etc. so I guess this isn’t that strange. Any thoughts?

Yeah those Camels are being replaced by those Daliesque Long legged things seen in the Star Wars Atlas I think…


^from a few pages back.

The Ghost ship was put in by John Knoll it’s only a nod. And he confirmed it.

Jar Jar Stinks!

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joefavs said:

These actual clips from the film are making me uneasy about the score. I know it can’t be the case with the amount of money Disney has to throw around, but the orchestra feels kind of synthetic, like it was a video game or a TV show from ten years ago. I dunno, it sounds kind of cheap and chintzy to me.

It might be temp score? Until the orchestra get recorded?

But either way I think you are on to something there. The scene really needs time to breath. I would say cut the music here, it’s intrusive and start at another cue.

10 Days Clip - Better shot of the one we saw earlier in the last TV spot. But this clip is much better video quality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ox5Z_ycakuM

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^ Yeah good

New Clip about Rogue One callsign.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0d60IYk6Xk

This is a bit silly but it’s fun and I don’t mind that at all. Very different from the trailers though. Is that the injection of the lighter mood?

Also the Death troopers are no Longer Death troopers… They are now “Advanced Weapons Research Troopers” according to Disney.

Sorry but they are still Death troopers because I was told they were and that is what I will call them forever more… 😃

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#1016323
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Thanks Joefavs! So both names are the real deal.

Cue the Dubstep on that last clip.

Couple of more trailers today and some more new footage. Still very excited for this film but I am lowering expectations for the begining. Expecting a shakey start but hopefully a very good ending.

Believe - TV Spot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS1Bzi2VE1o&feature=youtu.be

Blockade runner Spotted

International Trailer 4#

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQlQEuT07js

Looks like an attack on the Deathstar also that must go awry.

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#1016257
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Star Wars saga - Extra Extended Edition (1080p) (* unfinished project / WIP *)
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I think the colors match but the gain and the contrast are off as there is a sudden jump in detail. Particularly at the low end So the Values are off between the 2. That should be pretty easy though.

Although I think it might be a bit too slow now you should perhaps go to 90% Speed but also slow the original clip down to 90% also so the speed of the rain does not change.

But I am really impressed that you pulled that off. I think it’s great work. Hat’s off. I actually need to do something similar myself at some point did you use an image sequence for this?

Anyway this is what I think. In fact if you did it like this it would be a cut overall. But it would still be an improvement. Sometimes less is more.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/e3h46edparcxx32/menu-test4__(Edit).mp4

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http://www.aintitcool.com/node/76852

"What I’m not so sure of: The pacing seemed all wrong in the opening 12-ish minutes. Mostly when they get to adult Jyn things start jumping around at such a quick pace that it felt rushed. A sci-fi war picture that moves is a good thing, but once they start establishing the broader team characters it was such a rush of new locations, new people and things just happening without much context that it felt like I was missing a couples pieces of the puzzle.

To be fair, I’m assuming that this special footage presentation was showing that first 12 minutes as it will play in the film and it’s possible it was slightly condensed for this presentation, but they made a pretty distinguishable transition between each block of footage, which wasn’t present here."

http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/12/05/a-level-headed-reaction-to-the-rogue-one-footage-which-screened-over-the-we

"And now: the undecided news.

Everything prior to the title hitting the screen played like gangbusters. What followed was a five-minute (or so) stretch that bounced between multiple locations and characters, sometimes to a whiplash-inducing degree. In the moment, I assumed that the parade of locations (each accompanied by an on-screen title telling you where you were now) was a function of the film being sampled from for the purposes of the presentation we were watching, but afterwards I was told that, no, this is how the film plays out. That was troubling, as what was there felt, quite frankly, overly futzed-with.

Secondly: I had issues with a number of line readings and performances, particularly from secondary characters who showed up to deliver exposition and/or move scenes along. A lot of it felt like “first take” stuff, overacted or awkwardly-delivered in a way that caused me to raise an eyebrow on more than one occasion. I’ve agreed not to get into specifics on the footage which screened, so I’ll refrain from providing specific examples here, but … my guess is that you’ll know these moments when you see them."

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ray_afraid said:

Ronster said:

ray_afraid said:

When Jedis die they can reappear as visions to the people they knew. Why is that a concept that needs further analysis?

Because when Jedi’s die they don’t usually show up as ghosts otherwise there would be nothing special about it. It was Qui-gon first. Then Obi-wan and then Yoda. and then Anakin.

No other Jedi was able to achieve becoming a force ghost. But it had to do with the special teachings of Qui-gon which he had learned and passed on his knowledge. Otherwise there would be millions of Force ghost Jedi floating about.

It has nothing to do with being a Jedi.

Meh. That’s all PT garbage and doesn’t effect the films I watch. And appearing to certain people doesn’t equal “millions of Force ghost Jedi floating about”. If everybody could see 'em, Leia would have said “Hey, Luke! Come join us for a group pic- WHAT THE HELL?? G-G-G-GHOSTS!” But, she couldn’t see 'em. Only Luke.

You actually make a very good point there Ray!

If you saw a force ghost it could give you the Whillies 😃

What do you think about all this Whills stuff? Is it a tool to make different types of Jedi who are capable of different things? I know there was the Journal of the Whills which came first before Star Wars and apparently Chirrut’s crossbow gun is made by the guardians of the Whills, we also have a temple of the Whills on Planet Jedha.

I don’t like the PT films really there are little bit’s that I can take that I do think are good that amount to probably 20 minutes or so across the 3 films.

It could be an interesting addition to the Mythos though?

Fire at Whill Commander!

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ancient_Order_of_the_Whills

Even if it does not really have much impact on Jedi’s abilities perhaps they tell this Star Wars Story? From the Journal?

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Star Wars saga - Extra Extended Edition (1080p) (* unfinished project / WIP *)
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Ah actually that works really well. There is a major reason because R2-D2 get’s stuck on something and then he suddenly jumps to the window.

What I would suggest here is Slowing it down slightly and loop the rain sound effect.

What is happening with Vaders voice!!! Sounds good although what’s the plan give him subtitles or something?

Anyway a bit slower and if you can Spot match the color it would be 100% sold.

Bloopers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82I_yeF7b6g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgLl0_mqLtc

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#1016103
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joefavs said:

I think it’s far more likely that he either has a bacta soak regularly without the prosthetics or that he’s been injured recently at the start of the film. Vader’s origins really have nothing to do with Rogue One’s story, so I can’t imagine why there would be a flashback to that. I’d believe it for VIII, though. There’s no way this model is from the other movie, right?

There was a Rumor that they planned to show Vader as more Clunky like he is in Star Wars and later on in Empire strikes back he is much more athletic.

But why would you still be clunky 20 years later and then in 4 years you go from clunky to jumping about. 😃

It’s honestly anybody’s guess at the moment. Could be Vader get’s hurt in the middle of Rogue One and he’s out of action perhaps for a bit of the film and comes back extremely pissed!!!

Don’t forget the Vader Stuntman alternate actor…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcEUrA9Ix2g

The thing that makes me most question the Bacta Tank is there are no Medical droids present but perhaps they are in a room up above. It’s not at all obvious. If it is a Bacta tank and there are no Medical droids then it’s a goof up.

TV Spot - Surrender

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc3c_E7KrIQ