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4K restoration on Star Wars

I’ve read that the 1080p blu-ray discs included in the 4k boxed set as well as the individual 4K releases were the new scan, but the individual 1080p discs are now just the old blu-rays repackaged with the new covers. Is this true?

I think even the new D+ streaming versions are a vast improvement over the old 1080p Complete Saga (2011) boxed set, but in my opinion, you need a decent 4K TV with HDR as well as a 4K player with HDR to fully appreciate how good these new UHD discs look. I know some things certainly amount to personal preference, but I question what equipment some are looking at things on, and how their screens are calibrated.

Also, I’ve never gotten really great sound while streaming. The best sound by far is on the disc.

A lot of the technical stuff on this site is beyond me, but as someone who hates the special edition changes, I’ll just say for me to love these new discs as much as I do is saying something.

<strong>Coronavirus</strong> (COVID-19) Pandemic thread - <strong>relevant political discussion allowed</strong> in here

I was social distancing way before covid. I love the theater, but I’ll stick with streaming at home for the foreseeable future. Fitting that The Rise of Skywalker was the last movie I saw in a theater. Never got groceries delivered before, but it doesn’t cost much at all. Totally worth it and I will continue to do it even after covid is gone.

Dealing with People Selling Fan Projects

Williarob said:

Interesting that they can sell 4K80 even before it’s been finished or released! Maybe I should buy a copy to see how it turns out.

Spaceballs the Videotape!

Oops. I went back and looked again. This is what it says:

“Since I do not own the content on the discs, I cannot sell them. If you would like the 6 discs included, please send a message and I’ll gladly include them FREE. Again, to be clear, I’m selling the artwork & cases for these. If you would like the discs included, they will be added for FREE. I’m just a one man operation, so the cost is to cover materials & time spent putting these together. I lovingly recreated the artwork of the original CBS FOX VHS releases in the format of these 2-sided Criterion size cover art inserts & had the artwork professionally printed on the same stock as normal studio blu-ray insert art.”

Disc 1. Star Wars: Project 4K77 (DNR Version, 1080p) - blu-ray (BD25)
Disc 2. Star Wars: Harmy’s Despecialized Edition v.2.7 - blu-ray (w/Bonus Features BD50)
Disc 3. The Empire Strikes Back: Harmy’s Despecialized Edition v.2.0 - blu-ray (w/Bonus Features BD50)
Disc 4. The Empire Strikes Back: TN1 35mm “grindhouse” scan (has not been cleaned up or had DNR applied) 1080p blu-ray (BD-25)
Disc 5. Return of the Jedi: Project 4K83 (DNR Version, 1080p) - blu-ray (BD25)
Disc 6. Return of the Jedi: Harmy’s Despecialized Edition v.2.5 - blu-ray (w/Bonus Features BD50)

Alternate 1997 Special Editions (What if...?)

I remember being excited for the special editions to hut theaters. I think the suppression of the unaltered versions causes more distaste for the changes. People like having a choice. They may even be receptive of even greater changes if given the ability to still easily choose the unaltered versions.

Blade Runner: the Final Cut is my preferred version, but if the theatrical version with the narration was impossible to find, you better believe I wouldn’t be able to stop thinking about it.

This is probably blasphemy in these parts, but I’d be up for special edition versions of the entire Star Wars catalog, including the made for TV Ewok movies, if only the original versions were also released, in comparable quality. Imagine if the special effects in the prequels were updated to current standards?

How many good third movies in a trilogy can you name?

Return of the Jedi
The Rise of Skywalker
Revenge of the Sith
Thor: Ragnarok
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
The Bourne Ultimatum
Die Hard with a Vengeance
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
Return of the King
Back to the Future III
Mission: Impossible III
The Hunger Games: Mockingjay - Part 1
Star Trek Beyond
Star Trek III: The Search for Spock
Rocky III
John Wick: Chapter 3 – Parabellum
Ocean’s Thirteen
Chasing Amy
The World’s End
Another Thin Man

Best and Worst Movies: The Thread

My 100 favorite movies:

1.Rogue One (2016)
2.The Empire Strikes Back (1980)
3.Star Wars (1977)
4.Return of the Jedi (1983)
5.Blade Runner (1982)
6.The Rise of Skywalker (2019)
7.The Last Jedi (2017)
8.The Force Awakens (2015)
9.The Clone Wars (2008)
10.The Fifth Element (1997)

11.Solo: A Star Wars Story (2018)
12.The Phantom Menace (1999)
13.Attack of the Clones (2002)
14.Revenge of the Sith (2005)
15.Thor: Ragnarok (2017)
16.Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 (2017)
17.Guardians of the Galaxy (2014)
18.Alien (1979)
19.Casablanca (1942)
20.Avengers: Endgame (2019)

21.Ladyhawke (1985)
22.Excalibur (1981)
23.Conan the Barbarian (1982)
24.RoboCop (1987)
25.Ghostbusters (1984)
26.Tron (1982)
27.TRON: Legacy (2010)
28.Ghost in the Shell (2017)
29.Atomic Blonde (2017)
30.Captain Marvel (2019)

31.Blade Runner 2049 (2017)
32.Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets (2017)
33.Time Bandits (1981)
34.The Princess Bride (1987)
35.Legend (1985)
36.Black Rain (1989)
37.The Thing (1982)
38.The Lost Boys (1987)
39.The Maltese Falcon (1941)
40.To Have and Have Not (1944)

41.It Happened One Night (1934)
42.Only Angels Have Wings (1939)
43.The Grand Budapest Hotel (2014)
44.The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou (2004)
45.Young Frankenstein (1974)
46.Life of Brian (1979)
47.The Meaning of Life (1983)
48.Network (1976)
49.Citizen Kane (1941)
50.Interstellar (2014)

51.Pulp Fiction (1994)
52.The Big Lebowski (1998)
53.Inside Llewyn Davis (2013)
54.Brazil (1985)
55.Caddyshack (1980)
56.Mallrats (1995)
57.The Thin Man (1934)
58.His Girl Friday (1940)
59.The Roaring Twenties (1939)
60.12 Angry Men (1957)

61.North by Northwest (1959)
62.The Manchurian Candidate (1962)
63.The Joker Is Wild (1957)
64.The Detective (1968)
65.Tony Rome (1967)
66.Murder, My Sweet (1944)
67.Double Indemnity (1944)
68.Fallen Angel (1945)
69.The Asphalt Jungle (1950)
70.Sweet Smell of Success (1957)

71.Le Samouraï (1967)
72.Man on the Moon (1999)
73.American Splendor (2003)
74.Bohemian Rhapsody (2018)
75.A Warm December (1973)
76.Harold and Maude (1971)
77.Inglourious Basterds (2009)
78.The Hateful Eight (2015)
79.Joker (2019)
80.The Matrix (1999)

81.The Thirteenth Floor (1999)
82.Strange Days (1995)
83.The Producers (1967)
84.Jojo Rabbit (2019)
85.Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981)
86.Die Hard (1988)
87.Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country (1991)
88.Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan (1982)
89.Galaxy Quest (1999)
90.Midnight in Paris (2011)

91.The Purple Rose of Cairo (1985)
92.Manhattan Murder Mystery (1993)
93.On Her Majesty’s Secret Service (1969)
94.From Russia with Love (1963)
95.Casino Royale (2006)
96.Deadlier Than the Male (1967)
97.The Avengers (2012)
98.X-Men: Days of Future Past (2014)
99.Watchmen (2009)
100.Captain America: The First Avenger (2011)

Popularity of the OT Enhanced by Prequels?

There are likely those who grew up with the prequels who wouldn’t be fans of Star Wars otherwise. The Original Trilogy has earned a place in history but the continued popularity of the Star Wars franchise is in how it connects with the next generation. The sequels and The Mandalorian are now part of that too. The originals by themselves would not carry the franchise into the future. I don’t think it is possible to recreate what was in 1977, so Star Wars must evolve. So embrace the new because it is an extension of the old we love so dear.

4K restoration on Star Wars

I think constantly striving to improve on things is great for fans and everyone involved, but at some point you have to stop and smell the roses and recognize just how far watching Star Wars at home has come.

When I was a kid, I had an old 32" CRT connected via RCA plugs to an old boom box with detachable speakers with a VHS I recorded off HBO and in my mind I was ready for Robin Leach to feature me on Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous. I had it all.

I never dreamed what would be available in the future. Now I have a 65" with HDR and full-array dimming, a 4K player with Dolby Vision, and 5.1 surround sound (working toward Atmos).

To think back at what I used to watch and was so happy with puts it all in perspective. I have my Harmy 1080p discs for when I just don’t want to see the special edition changes, and the new 4K UHD discs for when I want to see the highest resolution and HDR.

Sure, the best would be 4K Harmy with HDR, and maybe we’ll get that next, but in my opinion we’ve come a long way, and things keep getting better. I don’t think the perfect release for all-time is achievable, so I’m just appreciating what I have now while anticipating what might be next.

If you need to B*tch about something... this is the place

I love Star Wars so much, I can never get enough. I get online to find other fans to share in the joy, but I keep getting caught up in a constant flow of negativity and hate to the point it starts to detract from that joy. I distance myself from forums, social media, and such, and find myself enjoying Star Wars much more again. Enjoying it so much in fact that I am compelled to get online and talk with other people…