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Rodney-2187

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#1372090
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Info: Mike Verta’s 4K Restoration - May 2020 Livestream
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So what have we narrowed it down to in all this time?

Possible reasons for not releasing the unaltered versions:

  1. contractual obligation with Lucas
  2. respect for George’s wishes
  3. a proper restoration of the unaltered scenes isn’t possible
  4. Disney/Lucasfilm just doesn’t care about the unaltered versions

When will we see an official release of the unaltered versions?

  1. whenever Disney/Lucasfilm wants to cash-in on an updated release
  2. after George is gone
  3. never
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#1372005
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Info: Mike Verta’s 4K Restoration - May 2020 Livestream
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Weren’t the 4K scans done in 2014? Why did it take until 2020 to be released? Why wait? Maybe they’re sitting on the unaltered versions until a certain amount of time after the most recent release?

The scenes Garett Edwards used in Rogue One looked great. I know work was done to incorporate them into R1, but I have to think there’s a lot of material available. Certainly enough to restore the unaltered version and probably create some new special features we haven’t seen.

I always go back to George being the roadblock. I don’t think anyone else is opposed, so why not do it? Do they just not care? Or could they be saving the unaltered release for additional cash in later on?

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#1371928
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<strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> — Official Review and Opinions Thread
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DrDre said:

Rodney-2187 said:

In my opinion, the idea of Palpatine returning is something that had to be addressed if they want to move on from these characters. Clones and cloning have been a part of Star Wars from the beginning. Obi-Wan mentions the Clone Wars when we first meet him. In a universe with cloning, whenever an evil mastermind is destroyed, it isn’t gong to take long for the idea of a clone to be mentioned. Especially if that mastermind has previously mentioned extending life and is strong with the Dark Side. Even the old expanded universe novels had clones of Palpatine.

The Rise of Skywalker isn’t perfect. No movie is. But if you look past the flaws and focus on the good time, I think it’s a lot of fun. It’s probably the last time we’ll see Luke, Leia, Han, and Lando. At least portrayed by the original actors. It was really great to see them again.

I disagree. That would be equivalent to arguing, if we clone Hitler, there would be another Nazi Germany, which is ludicrous. The clone would have Palpatine’s DNA, and Force potential, but he would not have lived Palpatine’s life, or have his experiences, which involves being trained by a powerful Sith Lord. He would just be a guy, that looks like Palpatine. In either case TROS completely glosses over the nature of Palpatine’s return, so I don’t really see how it really addresses cloning, or how it adds a sense of finality to his death. He returns somehow, and then dies again in a rather lame fasion. As with everything in TROS it’s pretty half baked (imo). I will agree it can be entertaining if you shut down your brain, but to me that sadly puts it in Michael Bay territory for me. In that context seeing the old gang just isn’t worth it to me.

That sounds like The Boys From Brazil.

I’m just saying, in a fantasy world that includes cloning and Dark Side Force users who talk about extended life and cheating death, it would be more odd in my opinion if there wasn’t an attempt for Palpatine to return. TRoS wasn’t the first time the concept has come up. Also, Hitler didn’t have the Force.

I’m not necessarily advocating the shutting off of brains, just the forgiving of imperfections. No movie is perfect, and true, some are more imperfect than others. “Your focus determines your reality.” There’s a lot to enjoy in my opinion.

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#1371923
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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crissrudd4554 said:

Rodney-2187 said:

Has the level of restoration combined with modern home theater technology achieved a level that surpasses what audiences originally were able to see in theaters?

I suggest you watch this. It’s a 3 hour video but you’ll learn a lot! 😉

https://youtu.be/G3W_O-tp0_g

Thanks! I’ve seen it, there’s a thread on it here:
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Info-Mike-Vertas-4K-Restoration-May-2020-Livestream/id/77901/page/1

As with everything else, I’ve never seen anything related to any aspect of Star Wars that wasn’t somewhat debated, lol.

I did add it to the Documentaries and Special Features spreadsheet I’ve been working on. Here’s the thread for that:
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Guide-to-Star-Wars-Documentaries-and-Special-Features/id/75409

Link directly to spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mai2LI7JUYohMTvW4c8Nv213joz3xxWkFODAY6BUuKs/edit?usp=sharing

I’d love to see Mike Verta’s work get released in some fashion.

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#1371905
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<strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> — Official Review and Opinions Thread
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In my opinion, the idea of Palpatine returning is something that had to be addressed if they want to move on from these characters. Clones and cloning have been a part of Star Wars from the beginning. Obi-Wan mentions the Clone Wars when we first meet him. In a universe with cloning, whenever an evil mastermind is destroyed, it isn’t gong to take long for the idea of a clone to be mentioned. Especially if that mastermind has previously mentioned extending life and is strong with the Dark Side. Even the old expanded universe novels had clones of Palpatine.

The Rise of Skywalker isn’t perfect. No movie is. But if you look past the flaws and focus on the good time, I think it’s a lot of fun. It’s probably the last time we’ll see Luke, Leia, Han, and Lando. At least portrayed by the original actors. It was really great to see them again.

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#1371554
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Categories
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When I think of Expanded Universe, I think of the old novelizations and such that were removed from canon and relegated to legends status. I can’t imagine there is more talk about those than the prequels or sequels.

Beyond the Original Trilogy sounds like everything that isn’t the Original Trilogy and General Star Wars talk sounds like everything including the Original Trilogy.

Maybe it’s just me, and if so I apologize, but often if I’m looking for something or want to start a thread, sometimes it’s difficult to know which section is best suited.

Also, maybe conversation and traffic regarding certain subjects would increase if sections were more clearly defined. For instance, it looks as if Disney+ series will be more significant very soon.

Not trying to ruffle any feathers, just my personal anecdotal observation. I certainly don’t know the ins and outs of forum management.

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#1371266
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Categories
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From another thread:

Rodney-2187 said:

I think the sections labeled “Beyond The Original Trilogy” and “Expanded Universe” overlap too much. I think separate sections for Originals, Prequels, Sequels, and TV series would be nice, along with a General Star Wars discussion for topics that cover the entire saga such as the comparisons you mention.

I’m sure preservation and fan edit topics would naturally pop up in those sections, but there would still be a main section for that.

I don’t see much talk about books and video games. I suppose they could fall under the General category.

Don’t get me wrong, this place is great. Just my OCD kicking in.

oojason said:

Plans to split the the current The Expanded Universe & General Star Wars Discussion section into two separate categories are afoot 😉

So the ‘Star Wars’ section of the site would look like this…

• Original Trilogy Discussion
• Beyond the Original Trilogy
• Theatrical Cuts vs. Subsequent Releases
• The Expanded Universe
• General Star Wars Discussions
• Toys & Memorabilia
 

Books and video games would likely fall under the ‘The Expanded Universe’ section. Something akin to…

‘For talk on the books, comics, gaming, soundtracks & music, documentaries, fan films, homages, cons & events, theme parks & rides, fan clubs & memberships…’

The General Star Wars Discussion would likely be along the lines of…

‘For discussions that cross the ‘Original Trilogy’, ‘Beyond The Original Trilogy’ and ‘The Expanded Universe’ forums; for thoughts and chat that covers the wider GFFA…’

 

Don’t get me wrong, this place is great. Just my OCD kicking in.

Thanks mate 👍

(there is some method in the madness of it all (or is madness in the method? 😉)
 

Rodney-2187 said:

Just my $0.02, but that sounds like going from two similar sections to three similar sections. Beyond the Original Trilogy, Expanded Universe, and General Discussion sounds like they would have so much overlap they might as well be one section.

Not to overstep, but my thoughts were more like:

Original Trilogy
Prequel Trilogy
Sequel Trilogy
TV Series (animated and live action)
General Discussion (games, books, etc.)

Preservation
Fan edits

Off-Topic

Again, no complaints or criticism intended. I appreciate and enjoy this forum and believe its existence is extremely important. Thanks to everyone here for all their hard work. Like I said, just my OCD kicking in.

Z6PO said:

^THIS

It’s much more clear! Maybe adding a section about the other movies (Ewoks, Clone Wars, Rogue one & Solo, and future films!)

NeverarGreat said:

Yeah, I’m still unsure about the division between the sections. Adding more seems unnecessary.

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#1370876
Topic
<strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> — Official Review and Opinions Thread
Time

oojason said:

Plans to split the the current The Expanded Universe & General Star Wars Discussion section into two separate categories are afoot 😉

So the ‘Star Wars’ section of the site would look like this…

• Original Trilogy Discussion
• Beyond the Original Trilogy
• Theatrical Cuts vs. Subsequent Releases
• The Expanded Universe
• General Star Wars Discussions
• Toys & Memorabilia
 

Books and video games would likely fall under the ‘The Expanded Universe’ section. Something akin to…

‘For talk on the books, comics, gaming, soundtracks & music, documentaries, fan films, homages, cons & events, theme parks & rides, fan clubs & memberships…’

The General Star Wars Discussion would likely be along the lines of…

‘For discussions that cross the ‘Original Trilogy’, ‘Beyond The Original Trilogy’ and ‘The Expanded Universe’ forums; for thoughts and chat that covers the wider GFFA…’

 

Just my $0.02, but that sounds like going from two similar sections to three similar sections. Beyond the Original Trilogy, Expanded Universe, and General Discussion sounds like they would have so much overlap they might as well be one section.

Not to overstep, but my thoughts were more like:

Original Trilogy
Prequel Trilogy
Sequel Trilogy
TV Series (animated and live action)
General Discussion (games, books, etc.)

Preservation
Fan edits

Off-Topic

Again, no complaints or criticism intended. I appreciate and enjoy this forum and believe its existence is extremely important. Thanks to everyone here for all their hard work. Like I said, just my OCD kicking in.

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#1370679
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<strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> — Official Review and Opinions Thread
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act on instinct said:

Is it time for a new thread? Seems to be getting more into comparisons between the whole saga now, less specific to TROS. Think it’s a good time for that since the dust has sort of settled.

I think the sections labeled “Beyond The Original Trilogy” and “Expanded Universe” overlap too much. I think separate sections for Originals, Prequels, Sequels, and TV series would be nice, along with a General Star Wars discussion for topics that cover the entire saga such as the comparisons you mention.

I’m sure preservation and fan edit topics would naturally pop up in those sections, but there would still be a main section for that.

I don’t see much talk about books and video games. I suppose they could fall under the General category.

Don’t get me wrong, this place is great. Just my OCD kicking in.

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#1370151
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Rogue One * <em>Spoilers</em> * Thread
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CaloNord said:

ray_afraid said:

Same. I only wish there was more Mission:Impossible-esque espionage & tension.
This shoulda’ been a trilogy.

A trilogy might have been a bit much, but it definitely would have been interesting to see what a Star Wars spy movie would have looked like. I’m happy with what we ended up getting though.

I’m hoping that’s what we get with the Cassian Andor series. Can’t wait!