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#1320240
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Rumor - Star Wars: 2022 High Republic Era
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Characters like The Mandalorian and Baby Yoda are interesting because even though they happen in the past (relative to the most recent movies) I have no idea what will happen to them. Will they live or die? The same with the rumored sequel series to Rebels. I have no idea what happens to Ezra, Sabine, or Ahsoka. But when you go to the past and bring along characters like the original Yoda, I’m not going to be too concerned about any danger he is in, or temptation he has. I already know his story. The same with the Obi-Wan series.

Don’t get me wrong, I am interested in seeing both, and the upcoming season 7 of The Clone Wars, but I’d really like it if they put more resources to telling me all new stories with all new characters that I have no idea what will happen to them. Or at least continue a known character’s story that I don’t know the outcome of.

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#1320212
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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Anakin94 said:

Rodney-2187 said:

The sound on Disney+ is considerably lower than any other streaming service I use, and I stream a lot. I have to turn the volume up a lot higher whenever I watch anything on Disney+.

Hmm, it is then more dynamic?
So it is louder when explosions there?

I wouldn’t go so far as to say the sound is bad, it’s just I’ve noticed it’s low volume. It’s definitely not more dynamic, less if anything. This disc always sounds better than streaming, but I just noticed Disney+ has a lower volume than other streaming services I use on the same device.

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#1320207
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Rumor - Star Wars: 2022 High Republic Era
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I’m definitely interested but not what I would do.

I prefer to go forward, not back. If they want to go back, go so far back that no one alive has any immediate bearing on the events we already know. Don’t be afraid to distance yourself from established characters.

Rian Johnson’s idea of a Star Wars trilogy completely separate from everything we know is the best idea I’ve heard. I hope he eventually get to make it.

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#1319531
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The Rise of Skywalker box office results: predictions and expectations - <strong>NO SPOILERS</strong>
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Broom Kid said:

Sidebar: Adjusting for Inflation is a pretty terrible metric, not only because the math is pretty clunky and imprecise, but because it also doesn’t account for a large number of competitive factors that contribute to attendance levels fluctuating yearly. It’s a big problem with box-office analysis/discussion in general - the decision to not measure by tickets sold is a built-in failing, but also completely unavoidable at this point due to how marketing-friendly the dollars-earned number was and still is.

Adjusting for Inflation doesn’t level a playing field so much as it just redistributes the lumps according to an overly simplistic formula.

A more accurate way to acknowledge historical context would probably be to measure the distance between how much each movie made compared to how much the average film in its release year made. That way you’re effectively comparing how much more popular each Star Wars film was than the other films that came out in that release year.

Yes, adjusted for inflation has a lot of flaws. It gets worse the farther apart the eras you are comparing are. I still thought it was interesting, so I posted it.

I think it’s also interesting to compare Star Wars and the MCU.

Domestic Box Office Totals Star Wars + MCU

The Force Awakens - $936,662,225
Avengers: Endgame - $858,373,000
Black Panther - $700,059,566
Avengers: Infinity War - $678,815,482
The Avengers - $623,357,910
The Last Jedi - 620,181,382
Rogue One - $532,177,324
The Rise of Skywalker - $478,169,690 (still in theaters)
Avengers: Age of Ultron - $459,005,868
Captain Marvel - $426,829,839
Iron Man 3 - $408,992,272
Captain America: Civil War - $408,084,349
Spider-Man: Far From Home - $390,532,085
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2 - $389,813,101
Spider-Man: Homecoming - $334,201,140
Guardians of the Galaxy - $333,172,112
Iron Man - $318,604,126
Thor: Ragnarok - $315,058,289
Iron Man 2 - $312,433,331
Captain America: The Winter Soldier - $259,746,958
Doctor Strange - $232,641,920
Ant-Man and the Wasp - $216,648,740
Solo - $213,767,512
Thor: The Dark World - $206,362,140
Thor - $181,030,624
Ant-Man - $180,202,163
Captain America: The First Avenger - $176,654,505
The Incredible Hulk - $134,806,913

I find reviews and box office numbers fascinating. It’s like a sports fan following scores and statistics. In the end, I still like what I like regardless.

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#1319516
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker box office results: predictions and expectations - <strong>NO SPOILERS</strong>
Time

Star Wars adjusted for inflation:

Star Wars - $1,497,057,186
The Force Awakens - $1,006,872,847
The Empire Strikes Back - $880,005,730
Return of the Jedi - $847,248,129
The Phantom Menace - $822,741,783
The Last Jedi - $628,253,896
Rogue One - $556,450,789
Revenge of the Sith - $540,446,942
Attack of the Clones - $487,136,844
The Rise of Skywalker - $478,169,690 (still in theaters)
Solo - $213,767,512

Doesn’t seem like the sequels are any more cause for alarm than the prequels. TRoS should pass AotC soon. The prequel and sequel trilogies seem to each have an entry that exceeds expectations and another that falls below expectations. The first movies appear to perform the best. Solo seems to be the only real outlier and I liked Solo very much.

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#1319484
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker box office results: predictions and expectations - <strong>NO SPOILERS</strong>
Time

Just my opinion, but DrDre’s method does indeed seem accurate for predicting the opening based on the level of interest at that time. But interest can fluctuate greatly depending on how well the movie is received. Had the movie been better reviewed by critics and/or audiences, the total box office could have been a lot higher, just as if it had worse reviews it could have been lower. I think word of mouth is more powerful than early interest, but that is of course just my perception. I don’t have any data beyond anecdotal observations.

I loved The Rise of Skywalker. I am surprised it didn’t make more. Everyone has an idea why it didn’t and everyone seems sure they’re right. There’s probably a little truth in almost all of the theories.

I do not think Star Wars as a brand is in any kind of trouble though. These movies still did very well. In a few years there will inevitably be another set of movies. I imagine people will continue to be interested in the directors, cast, trailers, and such. Maybe those will have more universal and critical appeal. I imagine a lot of thought will be put into it. I’m interested to see exactly what Project Luminous is all about.

Until then, I can’t wait to see more of the Disney+ live action and animated series. It’s a great time to be a Star Wars fan.

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#1319450
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker box office results: predictions and expectations - <strong>NO SPOILERS</strong>
Time

Rodney-2187 said:

FINAL LIST:

User Opening Domestic Worldwide
Ryan-SWI $130M $350M $750M
Cthulhunicron $850M
voltwaffle $144M $400M $860M
Maaga $199M $450M
rocknroll41 $175M $500M $975M
StarkillerAG $200M $500M $900M
DrDre $180M $540M $1.2B
yotsuya $240M $630M $1.4B
act on instinct $217M $645M $1.3B
LexX $1.31B
ChainsawAsh $225M $650M $1.525B
oojason $250M $685M $1.65B
DominicCobb $200M $700M $1.4B
Mavimao $702M
Depheros $242M $720M $1.54B
Broom Kid $220M $735M $1.4B
mykyta-R4 $255M $740M $1.75B
Outboundflight $240M $750M $1.625B
Rodney-2187 $230M $750M $1.5B
Force-Abel $260M $770M $1.7B
V.I.N.Cent $245M $790M $1.7B
dgraham414 $300M $800M $1.7B
JawsTDS $290M $820M $2.1B
Omni $859M $1.8B
klawrence123 $260M $870M $1.8B
Hal 9000 $275M $900M $1.9B

Rodney-2187 said:

Official domestic opening weekend total:
$177,383,864

Congrats to rocknroll41 for predicting the closest (175m).

rocknroll41, StarkillerAG, DrDre are looking likely for predicting the Domestic total.

It’s probably between rocknroll41 and DrDre for the Worldwide total.

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#1318089
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker box office results: predictions and expectations - <strong>NO SPOILERS</strong>
Time

Date comparison:

Rogue One TLJ TRoS
Dec 15 $104,684,491
Dec 16 $71,094,394 $63,993,205
Dec 17 $46,308,115 $51,331,888
Dec 18 $37,679,172 $21,556,373
Dec 19 $17,596,150 $20,254,189
Dec 20 $17,582,978 $16,889,863 $89,615,288
Dec 21 $14,965,790 $17,892,347 $47,467,565
Dec 22 $16,773,075 $24,763,084 $40,301,011
Dec 23 $22,860,256 $29,172,415 $29,389,847
Dec 24 $15,308,508 $17,629,999 $20,270,474
Dec 25 $25,865,004 $27,459,557 $32,165,681
Dec 26 $32,085,637 $27,734,356 $30,586,950
Dec 27 $22,515,612 $21,846,132 $26,069,973
Dec 28 $18,021,482 $19,490,329 $25,075,535
Dec 29 $16,722,532 $19,029,250 $21,244,082
Dec 30 $18,224,317 $19,924,241 $15,302,130
Dec 31 $14,632,828 $13,566,649 $13,217,698
Jan 1 $16,751,857 $14,293,461 $17,076,472
Jan 2 $15,913,674 $7,876,574 $9,274,735
Jan 3 $6,268,921 $5,225,332 $11,038,440
Jan 4 $4,237,535 $4,348,867 $14,319,903
Jan 5 $3,893,517 $6,523,473 $9,166,472

Length of release comparison:

Rogue One TLJ TRoS
day 1 $71,094,394 $104,684,491 $89,615,288
day 2 $46,308,115 $63,993,205 $47,467,565
day 3 $37,679,172 $51,331,888 $40,301,011
day 4 $17,596,150 $21,556,373 $29,389,847
day 5 $17,582,978 $20,254,189 $20,270,474
day 6 $14,965,790 $16,889,863 $32,165,681
day 7 $16,773,075 $17,892,347 $30,586,950
day 8 $22,860,256 $24,763,084 $26,069,973
day 9 $15,308,508 $29,172,415 $25,075,535
day 10 $25,865,004 $17,629,999 $21,244,082
day 11 $32,085,637 $27,459,557 $15,302,130
day 12 $22,515,612 $27,734,356 $13,217,698
day 13 $18,021,482 $21,846,132 $17,076,472
day 14 $16,722,532 $19,490,329 $9,274,735
day 15 $18,224,317 $19,029,250 $11,038,440
day 16 $14,632,828 $19,924,241 $14,319,903
day 17 $16,751,857 $13,566,649 $9,166,472
day 18 $15,913,674 $14,293,461
day 19 $6,268,921 $7,876,574
day 20 $4,237,535 $5,225,332
day 21 $3,893,517 $4,348,867

$451,582,256 (domestic) + $467,535,506 (international) = $919,117,762 (worldwide)

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#1317870
Topic
4K restoration on Star Wars
Time

Those special effects George doesn’t like won awards. So did the editing. The arrogance of erasing someone else’s award winning work from history is infuriating to me. In the 90’s I was excited at the idea of the Special Editions, and I would likely be more accepting of them now if not for the suppression of the originals. It’s more about that suppression than it is whatever tinkering is done. That’s why I say Star Wars must go back to being about more than George Lucas.

You can’t like the version you like if it doesn’t exist anymore.

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#1317864
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker box office results: predictions and expectations - <strong>NO SPOILERS</strong>
Time

Domestic Box Office Totals Star Wars + MCU

The Force Awakens - $936,662,225

Avengers: Endgame - $858,373,000
Black Panther - $700,059,566
Avengers: Infinity War - $678,815,482
The Avengers - $623,357,910

The Last Jedi - 620,181,382

Rogue One - $532,177,324

Avengers: Age of Ultron - $459,005,868

The Rise of Skywalker - $450,796,441 (still in theaters)

Captain Marvel - $426,829,839
Iron Man 3 - $408,992,272
Captain America: Civil War - $408,084,349
Spider-Man: Far From Home - $390,532,085
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2 - $389,813,101
Spider-Man: Homecoming - $334,201,140
Guardians of the Galaxy - $333,172,112
Iron Man - $318,604,126
Thor: Ragnarok - $315,058,289
Iron Man 2 - $312,433,331
Captain America: The Winter Soldier - $259,746,958
Doctor Strange - $232,641,920
Ant-Man and the Wasp - $216,648,740

Solo - $213,767,512

Thor: The Dark World - $206,362,140
Thor - $181,030,624
Ant-Man - $180,202,163
Captain America: The First Avenger - $176,654,505
The Incredible Hulk - $134,806,913

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#1317706
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker box office results: predictions and expectations - <strong>NO SPOILERS</strong>
Time

The Rise of Skywaker is already #3 for 2019. Can it get to #2? China is such a huge part of the worldwide box office, and Star Wars isn’t popular there at all, it probably wont get very high on the worldwide list at all. The Force Awakens had a large worldwide total but that was thanks to its enormous domestic take where it is still #1 all time over Endgame.

Current top domestic box office for 2019:

  1. Avengers: Endgame - $858,373,000
  2. The Lion King - $543,638,043
  3. Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker - $450,796,441
  4. Frozen II - $449,876,364
  5. Toy Story 4 - $434,038,008
  6. Captain Marvel - $426,829,839
  7. Spider-Man: Far From Home - $390,532,085
  8. Aladdin - $355,559,216
  9. Joker - $333,494,002
  10. Jumanji: The Next Level - $236,206,405

Current top worldwide box office for 2019:

  1. Avengers: Endgame - $2,797,800,564
  2. The Lion King - $1,656,313,097
  3. Frozen II - $1,325,176,364
  4. Spider-Man: Far From Home - $1,131,927,996
  5. Captain Marvel - $1,129,729,839
  6. Toy Story 4 - $1,073,394,813
  7. Joker - $1,060,470,910
  8. Aladdin - $1,050,959,216
  9. Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker - $918,796,441
  10. Fast & Furious Presents: Hobbs & Shaw - $760,330,285

No doubt about it, The Rise of Skywalker definitely made less than I thought it would. After I saw it, I knew some wouldn’t like it, but I still thought it would do better than it did. Not that it’s the disaster some are making it out to be. Did they want more? Of course. They want to make Endgame numbers every time, that’s always the goal. I’m sure they are happy owning the majority of the top movies of 2019.

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#1317327
Topic
4K restoration on Star Wars
Time

Hey now, don’t dream it’s over.

The better colors of the Disney+ versions have made me more interested in the 4K Skywalker Saga than I was before. It used to be Unaltered or nothing, but I suppose I’ve softened too. But dreaming of a proper release is something I’ll never stop doing. I never thought I’d see a release of multiple versions of Blade Runner because it’s not a movie the mainstream cares much about. The same with Brazil. But we have both of those. It seems unlikely right now, but not impossible that the Original Trilogy could eventually get a similar release.

Save the Rebellion. Save the dream.

Star Wars fans are largely collectors. I will just keep collecting the best versions I can get and dreaming of the best possible scenario.

Technically, I have access to everything I need right now. I can see the unaltered versions whenever I want, and they look great. The main issue for me is the history being rewritten. I want those original effects restored for posterity. I want them readily available not just for people who already want them, but for people to discover who are unaware.

The truth is (not) out there.

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#1317103
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker box office results: predictions and expectations - <strong>NO SPOILERS</strong>
Time

Date comparison:

Rogue One TLJ TRoS
Dec 15 $104,684,491
Dec 16 $71,094,394 $63,993,205
Dec 17 $46,308,115 $51,331,888
Dec 18 $37,679,172 $21,556,373
Dec 19 $17,596,150 $20,254,189
Dec 20 $17,582,978 $16,889,863 $89,615,288
Dec 21 $14,965,790 $17,892,347 $47,467,565
Dec 22 $16,773,075 $24,763,084 $40,301,011
Dec 23 $22,860,256 $29,172,415 $29,389,847
Dec 24 $15,308,508 $17,629,999 $20,270,474
Dec 25 $25,865,004 $27,459,557 $32,165,681
Dec 26 $32,085,637 $27,734,356 $30,586,950
Dec 27 $22,515,612 $21,846,132 $26,069,973
Dec 28 $18,021,482 $19,490,329 $25,075,535
Dec 29 $16,722,532 $19,029,250 $21,244,082
Dec 30 $18,224,317 $19,924,241 $15,302,130
Dec 31 $14,632,828 $13,566,649 $13,217,698
Jan 1 $16,751,857 $14,293,461 $17,076,472
Jan 2 $15,913,674 $7,876,574
Jan 3 $6,268,921 $5,225,332
Jan 4 $4,237,535 $4,348,867
Jan 5 $3,893,517 $6,523,473
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#1316657
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker box office results: predictions and expectations - <strong>NO SPOILERS</strong>
Time

For reference:

Rogue One TLJ TRoS
day 1 $71,094,394 $104,684,491 $89,615,288
day 2 $46,308,115 $63,993,205 $47,467,565
day 3 $37,679,172 $51,331,888 $40,301,011
day 4 $17,596,150 $21,556,373 $29,389,847
day 5 $17,582,978 $20,254,189 $20,270,474
day 6 $14,965,790 $16,889,863 $32,165,681
day 7 $16,773,075 $17,892,347 $30,586,950
day 8 $22,860,256 $24,763,084 $26,069,973
day 9 $15,308,508 $29,172,415 $25,075,535
day 10 $25,865,004 $17,629,999 $21,244,082
day 11 $32,085,637 $27,459,557 $15,302,130
day 12 $22,515,612 $27,734,356 $13,217,698
day 13 $18,021,482 $21,846,132 $17,076,472
day 14 $16,722,532 $19,490,329
day 15 $18,224,317 $19,029,250
day 16 $14,632,828 $19,924,241
day 17 $16,751,857 $13,566,649
day 18 $15,913,674 $14,293,461
day 19 $6,268,921 $7,876,574
day 20 $4,237,535 $5,225,332
day 21 $3,893,517 $4,348,867

$416,982,706 (domestic) + $407,900,000 (international) = $824,882,706 (worldwide)

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#1316361
Topic
<em>The Mandalorian</em> - Season One Discussion - * <strong>SPOILER THREAD</strong> *
Time

MalàStrana said:

theprequelsrule said:

  1. Super Battle Droids are shown as menacing. Well done.

The only thing worth watching this season.

MalàStrana said:

Anyway guys. I’m fed up with you. You can erase my account. I’m done with this shitty saga. It died long ago. Enjoy your shitty movies and dumb blockbusters.

But you’re done right? With the entire saga? And leaving?