There is another form of negativity I like to call “passive-aggressive trolling.” These are people who do not break forum rules, but still manage to constantly disrupt threads.
I think how most forums define trolling needs an update.
Two movies in the top 10 all-time domestic box office list and a third at #12 is tanking? I bet a lot of people wish they could tank like that.
1.The Force Awakens - $936,662,225
2.Avengers: Endgame - $858,041,646
9.The Last Jedi - $620,181,382
12.Rogue One - $532,177,324
This is going to do so well, the list of people wanting to guest star next season will be long.
I’m wondering if Mark Hamill might lend his voice somewhere in this series. I doubt Harrison Ford would, but if he did, I would be ecstatic. Anthony Daniels C-3PO and Chewbacca are other possible guests that could return.
I wouldn’t mind a few characters we know showing up but I was more referring to actors that have wanted to be in Star Wars but the timing or role was never quite right. The cast is already great, but there’s bound to be characters who appear for only a few episodes that could attract some great talent.
This is going to do so well, the list of people wanting to guest star next season will be long.
I have an Amazon 4K Fire Stick (WiFi only) that I got for $24 and it looks pretty good. The sound isn’t so great though, especially on the Hulu app.
When I stream 4K on my blu ray player (Sony UBP-X700) it looks and sounds a little better. Nothing beats putting a 4K UHD disc in it though.
I guess what I’m saying is there’s always a step up, so just take it however you can get it. We are seriously spoiled by the quality and convenience of home theaters now.
All that is missing is my beloved Original Trilogy, properly restored in 4K with HDR.
DrDre said:
TROS will likely make a profit, but the question is whether it will break the $1B mark. If not it will be seen a failure nonetheless.
Here’s how the OT and PT did in theaters:
1st film: record breaking numbers
2nd film: successful, but much lower than the 1st.
3rd: better than the 2nd but not as good as the 1st.
And for the ST?
TFA: Record breaking numbers
TLJ: successful, but much lower than the 1st.
TROS: ?? (my guess: in between TFA and TLJ)
I’ll predict The Rise of Skywalker to do $700,000,000 domestic and $1,400,000,000 worldwide. That’s more than The Last Jedi and less than The Force Awakens, very respectable.
This is of course before seeing a full trailer and experiencing the full marketing hype. Some positive word of mouth combined with the holiday season could considerably increase those numbers.
yotsuya said:
I’d predict the teaser gets 5-10 million more views by the time the movie is released, the full trailer will have 50-60 million views, and the box office will be better than TLJ, but under $700,000,000.
yotsuya said:
I’m very confident it will do better than TLJ. I will be very surprise if it fails to do that. That means in the US it should get about $630 million and worldwide about $1.4 billion.
pleasehello said:
I’m definitely predicting less than The Last Jedi. I really think a lot of people were turned off by it and don’t feel the need to see final installment.
Keep ‘em coming!
I’ve streamed 4K HDR from Amazon, VUDU, and Movies Anywhere, and it looks great. Definitely better than a 1080p blu-ray and almost as good as a 4K UHD disc. But I’ve yet to stream anything from anyone that sounds as great as a disc.
Still, if you can stream 4K HDR, just do it! I remember the old days of trying to rotate the antenna on the roof to make the picture stop rolling, so I think all this streaming is great!
That wasn’t the antenna’s fault, it was a bad vertical control knob. 😛
When I was a kid, I would get up early to watch Hanna Barbera’s World Of Super Adventure on the kitchen tv, which somehow picked up the signal from a distant New York station so long as I held onto the rabbit ears with one hand.
It was so long ago, Star Wars wasn’t even a trilogy yet.
I’ve streamed 4K HDR from Amazon, VUDU, and Movies Anywhere, and it looks great. Definitely better than a 1080p blu-ray and almost as good as a 4K UHD disc. But I’ve yet to stream anything from anyone that sounds as great as a disc.
Still, if you can stream 4K HDR, just do it! I remember the old days of trying to rotate the antenna on the roof to make the picture stop rolling, so I think all this streaming is great!
What’s wrong with nostalgia?
Let the past die is the flawed viewpoint, at least according to Yoda. He advises that failure is the greatest teacher. So you need the past and all those failures to pass on the lessons learned in life. Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.
…
I don’t want to insult anyone personally, and I’m not talking about anyone specific, but some Star Wars fans, the most vocal ones it seems, are a lot like Goldilocks. This porridge is too hot. This porridge is too cold. I’ve seen people complain the new movies are too similar to the OT and just feed off nostalgia, but then those same people complain that anything new isn’t real Star Wars. There’s this narrow thin line they expect the filmmakers to walk. This just shows how making a Star Wars movie in this climate is no sure thing, and any financial success is indeed earned.
I think they have done a great job. Are the movies perfect? Of course not. No movie ever has been in the history of movies. They’ve succeeded in introducing new exciting characters while bringing the original characters back in supporting roles the same way having Alec Guinness in a supporting role benefited the cast of the originals. I find the character arcs very compelling. There are entirely new ships along with advanced versions of previous ships. John Williams has made new music. Everything that makes a great Star Wars movie to me is there.
I have absolutely no idea what will happen in TRoS and I wouldn’t have it any other way. Combine all this with supporting stories from the animated series, novels, comics and live action series that are coming soon, and to me you have a great time to be a Star Wars fan!
Did I mention the theme parks? You’re telling me I can walk around a Star Wars village and drink blue milk, build a lightsaber, buy all sorts of unique Star Wars items, eat from a Star wars themed menu, take pics with a full size Millenium Falcon, fly said Falcon, and soon the main Rise of the Resistance ride will be in full gear? Nirvana I say!
…
It may not be a popular view, but I still believe social media, youtube, and websites just looking for clicks have found that negativity gets the most clicks, and there’s only so much negativity that can be put out there before it actually starts to affect people. I honestly believe we are in a hate-first nitpicky society as it pertains to entertainment. They go into movies on a seek-and-destroy mission to find everything that is wrong with something and join the online backlash. The truth is we are spoiled rotten with how good we have it right now. Movie theaters have better screens, sound, and seats than ever before. Home theater technology is simply amazing. There is so much content being created to suit every taste, but the mentality is to seek out what you don’t like and focus on that. What a waste. This all of course just leaves the door open for trolls, disguised as fans, who just like to incite arguments for fun.
…
I’m going to enjoy The Rise of Skywaker like there’s no tomorrow. I’m going out for Force Friday and putting on my finest Jedi robe and donning my best lightsaber for the premier. Is that silly? Yes, but in a world full of people killing each other, I think the world would be a better place if we were just silly for a few hours now and then.
Just noticing I was actually charged $160.41 (instead of $140.97)
Reading the fine print, it says “taxes added where applicable.”
Still, another $20 spread out over 36 months is less than a dollar. So it’s $4.46 per month instead of $3.92 (your taxes may vary).
https://d23.com/disney-plus-exclusive-offer/
If you’re a D23 member, even at the free membership level, you can sign up for Disney+ for $140.97 for three years. That’s $46.99 per year or about $3.92 per month.
Offer ends September 2!
I’m all signed up and ready for November!
IG-88!!!
IG-11
I like the idea of releasing episodes one at a time. It makes it more of an event and more conversation about each episode every week since everyone will be on the same episode around the same time. They want each episode to be highly anticipated like Game of Thrones and Walking Dead.
This is a box office prediction/expectation thread, so let’s see some numbers people. What will TRoS opening weekend look like? Domestic totals? Worldwide? Will it have legs?
It’s all just for fun. You can always revise your prediction closer to release. I honestly think it’s all fascinating.
I think Star Wars is doing great. I’d say Lucas did more butchering with the the Holiday Special, Ewok Movies, special editions, and prequels, but Star Wars is still going. I love it as much as I ever did.
The level of Lucas’ involvement with the HS is questionable at best. And the Ewok movies are squarely aimed at kids in spite of Battle For Endor rivaling Alien 3 in some respects. 😉
Still, it’s all Star Wars. It just seems people talk about the Original Trilogy as some sort of sacred era of perfection before Disney came along and made all of this other stuff they don’t like. It’s as if they have deleted the Holiday Special, two Ewok movies, Ewok animated series, and Droids animated series all from their memories. Star Wars has always been about more than just the main saga movies, and The Last Jedi isn’t the first piece of Star Wars that some people haven’t liked.
I can sympathize though. I know where they’re coming from. Disney owns Star Wars and they don’t see an end to the current style of movies. I thought the same thing during the prequels. People come and go and someone else will inevitably be in charge of new Star Wars movies. Hopefully those will be more to their liking, but I don’t think Star Wars has been ruined, nor is it ending anytime soon.
Here is the Clone Wars youtube video I watched. Good quality.
I took the advice above and rewatched Clone Wars (2003 - 2005 animated tv series). I must say I loved it. I remember hating it when I tried to watch it before and not liking the tone or the animation style. I didn’t have a problem with any of it at all this time and enjoyed it very much. It’s definitely good to revisit things from time to time.
When comparing it to The Clone Wars (2008 - 2014 animated tv series) I will say the action and tone are more intense in the 2003 series. At least for me, I’d say the 2008 series has more drama and goes deeper into the individual characters.
This made me really pour over my list and put some more thought into my assesment of all things Star Wars. Here is my new list, and I think it should hold up for a while, at least until I have to add The Mandalorian and The Rise of Skywalker.
Thanks to everyone who encouraged me to give Clone Wars another look.
five-stars
1.Rogue One
2.The Empire Strikes Back (1980)
3.Star Wars (1977)
4.Return of the Jedi (1983)
5.The Last Jedi
6.The Force Awakens
7.Solo
8.Rebels (2014 - 2018 animated tv series)
9.Resistance (2018 animated tv series)
four-stars
10.The Clone Wars (2008 - 2014 animated tv series)
11.Clone Wars (2003 - 2005 animated tv series)
12.Ewoks (1985 - 1986 animated tv series)
13.Star Wars Holiday Special (1978)
14.Caravan of Courage: An Ewok Adventure (1984 tv movie)
15.Ewoks: The Battle for Endor (1985 tv movie)
three-stars
16.The Phantom Menace (1999)
17.Attack of the Clones (2002)
18.Revenge of the Sith (2005)
two-stars
19.Droids (1985 - 1986 animated tv series)
one-star
20.The Clone Wars (2008 animated movie)
I think Star Wars is doing great. I’d say Lucas did more butchering with the the Holiday Special, Ewok Movies, special editions, and prequels, but Star Wars is still going. I love it as much as I ever did.
What about The Hidden Fortress then?
The Last Jedi made slightly more than the first Frozen.
Is everyone pretty much thinking the same thing then? ($700,000,000 domestic/$1.4 worldwide) I haven’t seen too many predictions far outside of those numbers.
The Force Awakens opening weekend was $247,966,675 and The Last Jedi opened with $220,009,584, so I would expect The Rise of Skywalker to at least open around $230,000,000.
I’m definitely predicting less than The Last Jedi. I really think a lot of people were turned off by it and don’t feel the need to see final installment.
Are you going to see it?
Is everyone pretty much thinking the same thing then? ($700,000,000 domestic/$1.4 worldwide) I haven’t seen too many predictions far outside of those numbers.
The Force Awakens opening weekend was $247,966,675 and The Last Jedi opened with $220,009,584, so I would expect The Rise of Skywalker to at least open around $230,000,000.
I know we don’t even have a full trailer yet, and we haven’t seen the full marketing hype, but since the title of this thread is box office predictions and expectations, I thought it would be fun to see some early ideas. The extreme high and low predictions will be especially interesting in a few months.
I’m very excited for this. Disney+ is going to be huge. Great time to be a Star Wars fan!
More doesn’t always equal better.
I’d rather them make new movies and shows than make none at all. Also, I’ve loved the new movies and animated series, and the footage I’ve seen from The Mandalorian looks excellent, so I don’t see the trend of me enjoying things ending anytime soon.
I’ve wanted a live-action Star Wars series since I was a kid watching the original Battlestar Galactica. Ewan McGregor was one of the bright spots of the prequels. Sounds like a really great idea to me. I’m even more looking forward to the Cassian Andor series. He’s a really great character.
It could be bad, but even if it is, I’d rather they tried than didn’t. I have a feeling these new projects will be better than the Holiday Special and Ewok movies. Star Wars was just fine after those, even though they weren’t the best, so I’m sure everything will be fine.
Also the 2003 Tarakovsky series is available through YouTube in it’s entirety and like most people here I think is really great and recommend taking another look at it. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLOdxpOxy4M9Ncqw31bNB9dtsNg3Ga2bfB
I will check it out again sometime this week and report back.
For the record, I used to not like The Clone Wars much either, but after a rewatch it contains some of my favorite Star Wars moments. I suppose Clone Wars deserves another chance too.