RicOlie_2

Oops. I should have used my lance last turn...

I must be missing something... Either that, or you are. Well, I'll see how it goes and hope that I'm not overlooking something obvious.

Nx9g

LOL, what a dumb thread this is!

I think I was pretty bored the night I made it, so I made a thread. :)

MrBrown said:

RicOlie_2 said:

MrBrown said:

RicOlie_2 said:

Absolutely not. Being black is not a choice.

 So, you say, what you belief is just a choice.

You could stop believing in God and stop being catholic just at the point? Cool... And you just can start believing homosexuality, just equal as being heterosexuality?

What if a job (out of being a priest) wants you to stop living heterosexual acts?

And, to help the employer to see iof the person is of a belief, sexuality or  such thing they don't feel comfortable with, that homosexuals have to wear a rainbow flag, and jews a little star, and islamists a small half-moon, and mormons a little.. uhm.. here I have fo pass, I don't know a fitting symbol important to the mormon belief...

..but, you know.. nothing against these kind of people... it's not to discriminate.. it ius just.. to help normal people see what they are dealing with...

 No, that's not what I mean. I don't think I presented my reasons very well. I think that in a free country, employers should have the right to refuse employment just because they don't like a person. That's all I mean, and I think that the employer in question should be the top dog in the business/organization/other for the rule to qualify. If someone under the head of the business is responsible for employing people, the rule should no longer apply unless the boss also refuses to hire that person. At a certain point even that should be prohibited.

 But this are two kind of socks, and that's the reason, I think the religion and sexuality of a person has nothing to be discussed in a job application discussion:

If the employer doesn't know on this things, and he feels uneasy with the maybe empoyee, this may be a sign, that the applicant may not fit into the business. Thats normally the main reasin for job interviews: testing, if the applicant fits in.

If a employer refuses to give a job to someone, just because he has another religion, which nothing has to do with the job itself, than this is just a kind of "rascism".

In Germany questions like "What sexuality you have?", "What religion you are part of?" and (for female employees) "Are you pregnant?" are illegal in a job interview, to avoid such form of choosing.

On the other hand, I don't go well with the persons saying "If a person from a minority/female and a person from a majority/male apply for a job, and they are almost equal in knowledge (or whatever for the job is needed) the minority/female person should be favoured, to be not a rascist/sexist whatever." Because thus kind of thinking is just the other way around. Its 'almost' the same as "Hey, we white, christian, men are just superior, because we have balls for everything, a cross to carry for the benefit of all and we get a nice tan in the sun." (okay a bit satirical expressed, but maybe you get it.)

There are som cases, where you are not all wrong:

In a (strict) catholic school, a jew, mormon or even a protestant teacher just won't "fit". In a heterosexual, men aiming, strip club, a gay male tabledancer just won't fit.

But in a company, searching a good IT-engeneer, there is no need, to be heterosexual, male and catholic. If the employer has a problem with a female mormon, which may have just perfect abilities for this job, it is the problem of the employer, for be single minded, not the problem of the applicant to be a female mormon.

I don't think it's right in most cases, but I think it should be legal. Just as I don't think making fun of someone is right, I just think it should be legal. If we impose too many restrictions, laws become stricter and stricter and the government gains more and more control over what people can't do.

Another question:

If you had a son, loving him about 15 years, would you really think he is a different person, if he would come out to be homosexual, knowing it about 3 years or so? Would you really see him as a different person? What would you say to him: "No, I am not your father anymore, I can't accept that you.. love male. Stop it! I will not help you with the problems you will have to face, because of single minded persons, like me."

As I have said many times, I have no problem with homosexuals themselves. If I had a son who discovered he was homosexual, I would still love him but I would try to discourage him from beginning any homosexual relationships. Even if he married another guy, I would still love him. It would hurt because it would mean he would have to abandon the Catholic Church, but I would still love him, though it would strain our relationship.

 Now think another way. Lets say your father had been atheist, but in your childhood, you really found your true belief in god. Finding the teachings of the catholic chuch of hope and salvation quite a true into your heart. What do you hope to hear from your father? "Hah! You fool! 'Believing' in what cannot exsist. Out of my house of true knowledge."

 Well, of course I wouldn't want to hear that, and if I were in that father's position, I wouldn't do that. If I were to become an atheist, I would be fine with other people being religious because I think religion is a beautiful thing and I believe that I still would, even if I looked at it from the outside.

Well, I guess the Jawa was the only figure with a vinyl cape that people wouldn't buy due to its price. IIRC, it cost as much as the other figures, so people thought it was more of a rip-off than other, larger characters (of course, I wasn't around back then, so that's just based on what I've read).

Hmmm... I think I'll keep it as it is.

If I haven't changed my mind by the time you come back, then go ahead with your move.

Ah well, no worries. Your error saved my neck, so I'm happy enough about it. :)

B-9g

The pictures are nice to have, but I think they are less helpful for me than they would be for outside viewers since I'm following along with my own program. If anyone else appreciates the pictures, then speak up, because otherwise I'm fine with them only being occasional.

Well, I misjudged you somewhere, so hopefully I make the right choices (for me, not for you ;)) in the next few moves. I don't want a rook running rampage behind my ranks again.

Px8f

P-9f

G-2i

darth_ender said:

I may have figured something out that will make putting pictures up far easier. for these games!  I'll be checking it out between moves :)

 Oh? Share it with me once you get it figured out.

K-1i

L-1h

G-3i

MrBrown said:

RicOlie_2 said:

Absolutely not. Being black is not a choice.

 So, you say, what you belief is just a choice.

You could stop believing in God and stop being catholic just at the point? Cool... And you just can start believing homosexuality, just equal as being heterosexuality?

What if a job (out of being a priest) wants you to stop living heterosexual acts?

And, to help the employer to see iof the person is of a belief, sexuality or  such thing they don't feel comfortable with, that homosexuals have to wear a rainbow flag, and jews a little star, and islamists a small half-moon, and mormons a little.. uhm.. here I have fo pass, I don't know a fitting symbol important to the mormon belief...

..but, you know.. nothing against these kind of people... it's not to discriminate.. it ius just.. to help normal people see what they are dealing with...

 No, that's not what I mean. I don't think I presented my reasons very well. I think that in a free country, employers should have the right to refuse employment just because they don't like a person. That's all I mean, and I think that the employer in question should be the top dog in the business/organization/other for the rule to qualify. If someone under the head of the business is responsible for employing people, the rule should no longer apply unless the boss also refuses to hire that person. At a certain point even that should be prohibited.

TV's Frink said:

Lol at "practicing" homosexual.

 Not the right term I know, but I was in a hurry. :P

TV's Frink said:

Neither is homosexuality.  Are you ok with an employer refusing someone employment because of that?

I think based on past statements you would not be ok with that, but just want to be sure.

 No, I am not okay with that, though I think a school (especially a Catholic school), for example, should not be forced to hire a practicing homosexual. People are born homosexual, but they still choose to engage in homosexual sex acts.

I'll answer you guys later, but I've gotta run now, so I don't have time to type up a proper answer.

There are so many amazing changes I loved, I don't think I can list them all!

In ANH, it was wonderful to see Han fire only in self-defense, making him seem less like a bad guy! That added such depth to his character and showed there was really good in him all along.

The Jabba scene was also a great idea! Not only do we get to see Jabba extra early so we don't have to wait so long to see him in ROTJ, but the important dialogue from the Greedo scene is reinforced and repeated so that we don't forget that Han has to pay Jabba lots of money. That is important for ESB and ROTJ, otherwise people would probably forget why Jabba wanted Han. But not only that; the new Jabba was created with pristine, state-of-the-art CGI and looked just like the puppet!

The ring around the Death Star explosion really added power to the scene and was so much more satisfactory than the old, pathetic one which really looked like a model blowing up (but now it doesn't because of the ring!).

I also really loved the nice blue tint they put over everything, as that added so much colour and atmosphere to the movie.

Also, it looks like Obi-Wan wears lipstick a lot, which I think is a clever nod to the transgender community, showing Lucasfilm's acceptance of all people in the fan community.

In ESB, I was glad to see that the wampa got more screen time. The poor guy hardly made an appearance originally, but now we get to see him eat, confirming our suspicions that he actually ate the tauntaun. With its previous ambiguity, we didn't know what happened to the tauntaun or why the wampa took Luke, but it is all put to rest for once and for all (for all because that crappy original original trilogy is gone now).

I was pleased to see that Boba Fett's stupid voice was finally gone, and replaced by a real actor. The new one sounds like he's half asleep, which works really well with Fett's character, since it shows that he is bored and is so cool he doesn't even care about what's going on.

Vader's new line replacing "Bring my shuttle!" is so much better. With the old line we were left wondering, "Where is Darth Vader going? Will the people on the Star Destroyer be sufficiently prepared for his arrival?" Now everything is clear and we don't have to worry about it anymore.

Another change that I liked was the new Emperor/Vader scene. Now we don't have to deal with Clive Revel and Elaine Baker and we have the handsome Ian replacing them...and with brand new dialogue that explains things better for the fans!

Hoth looked really did look cold with the new blue tint (everything else looked cold too, but whatever).

In ROTJ we are treated to an all new music video called "Lappy Neck" or something like that. The talent and CGI displayed in the video was so good that I think they should go back and replace Star Wars with a musical saga, replacing all puppets with CGI and adding a whole bunch of new ones who can pop out from behind trees and stuff and sing (I can see it now: Star Wars: A Musical Hope followed by The Tenor Strikes Back and Rehearsal of the Jedi and preceded by The Phantom Vocalist, Attack of the Notes, and Remix of the Sith).

I also love the new ending! Now we get to see Naboo and see that our beloved Gungans are OK and we can finally dispel the former notion that the collapse of the Empire was actually spread out over a long period of time. Now we know that everybody was happy as soon as the Emperor died, so the Empire couldn't have been that bad after all, giving us more sympathy for the Imperials when we watch the movies again.

Perhaps best of all is that we get to see the tender young Anakin Skywalker, with the appearance of our beloved protaganist from the prequel trilogy, whereas before that scene was a "Who the heck is that guy?" moment, which detracted from the emotional impact of the scene. Now we see more clearly the tender love between father and son as young Anakin sheepishly smiles at his son and all former misunderstandings fall away. What better way to end the saga?

Overall, I am glad that Lucas just added a bunch of stuff without changing the story and keeping all the continuity errors and other stuff intact. Even better, it is really noticeable so that we don't miss any exciting new stuff and we don't get the original and the special editions mixed up.

May your midichlorians multiply and good luck come on the backs of rontos!

Absolutely not. Being black is not a choice.

Warbler said:

RicOlie_2 said:

Warbler said:

darth_ender said:o.

Many facilities, particularly in the South, will not hire a Mormon.

 pretty sure that is illegal.  

 If it is illegal, it shouldn't be. Meaning no offense of course, but if that were the case than people would not be able to refuse people for hire based on a person's beliefs (which the employers may be completely opposed to and thus not wish to affiliate themselves with that person), and I think it is a right employers should have.

 I couldn't disagree more.   If religion has nothing to do with the job being applied to, why should it matter what the applicant's religious beliefs are?  

I am pretty certain discriminating in hiring based on religion is banned by civil rights legislation.  

Tell me, if Walmart announced  tomorrow that they were no longer going to hire Catholics, would you think Walmart had every right to do so? 

 Good point. I think it should be legal for small businesses (perhaps under 50 employees or something like that), but once it gets larger than that, then employers should be required to be looser with their requirements. With a small, personal business though, if someone is hiring one other person and they're going to be in close contact everyday, the employer might want to hire someone around whom they would be comfortable, which might involve not hiring people who wear shirts advertising that they're pro-choice (just an example, and the employer could impose a dress code to avoid that kind of thing, but that's not my point).

It's a pity that none of the big things my dad has are in great condition (I guess that means they were well-used which is good), since he has:

two Millenium Falcons (aged and missing some of the smaller pieces),

the Death Star playset (mostly broken now),

a Sandcrawler (still in pretty good condition),

an AT-AT (also in mostly good condition though the door doesn't stay on properly anymore),

Hoth,

the Cantina,

the Ewok Village

the Darth Vader helmet carry-case,

Jabba's palace (I believe it was in very good condition up until a couple years ago),

a few X-Wings (all broken),

a few TIE fighters/interceptors/Vader's TIEs (also mostly broken),

some cloud cars (one of which is in fairly good shape, the others have broken cockpits),

an AT-ST (which I think also broke in the last few years),

Slave I (sadly, this one isn't in good shape either),

the "Expanded Universe" toys (most, if not all, are in good shape),

a few other ships like the Snowspeeder and Luke's Landspeeder (most of which are broken).

He also has the Wampa, a Tauntaun, two Dewbacks, two Jabbas, the band in Jabba's palace, and a whole bunch of action figures which are in better shape than the ships.

My dad has a whole bunch of these, though they are not all in great condition anymore (most at least show signs of heavy aging) and most of his spaceships are broken.

He even has a couple vinyl-caped Jawas in his collection and has less common figures like Jabba and the Wampa.

How about the rest of you, especially those who grew up with Star Wars and the Kenner toys, do you still have any of them?

For a year or two the competition between Luke and Han over Leia went completely over my head. For a couple years after that I still didn't see it in ANH, though I noticed it in ESB. I thought the "I care" scene was nonsense and I couldn't figure it out until I was about eleven or twelve. :P

I think plot points went over my head more than I held actual misconceptions. For instance, I didn't get how the Death Star found the Rebel base since I didn't get the bit about the homing beacon.

Another actual misconception I had was again in ESB. I thought Lando didn't know about the Imperials on Bespin, so I thought he was more of a good guy than he really was and I didn't understand why Chewie choked him.

Warbler said:

darth_ender said:o.

Many facilities, particularly in the South, will not hire a Mormon.

 pretty sure that is illegal.  

 If it is illegal, it shouldn't be. Meaning no offense of course, but if that were the case than people would not be able to refuse people for hire based on a person's beliefs (which the employers may be completely opposed to and thus not wish to affiliate themselves with that person), and I think it is a right employers should have.

K-2i