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#34425
Topic
George Lucas' explanation why the OT is obsolete to him
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The rings to the explosions made them realistic no way something that big can explode with no ring.


Jimbo is now our selfproclaimed planetary explosion expert.

Are we basing this ring thing on anything other then what we see of planetary explosions in other sci-fi movies from the midnineties or is there some physical basis for this. Startrek 6 was the first to have the ring effect to the exploding moon, and Stargate had a similar effect not long after.
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#34423
Topic
George Lucas' explanation why the OT is obsolete to him
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Errr... that's just that rumor list some fan posted on AICN. Imho, it is pretty obvious these are fakes, because there is a list of severe changes for EpI and II posted by the same guy that get pretty much out of hand. Although I will admit that some of the changes are very well imaginable for the archive editions, I still doubt this is the 'true changelog' for them.


Bingo! This is not a list, its just a wish list that TF.n made up, and i know this because Josh told me personally. SOme of these changes are likely to happen, but this is by no means the actual list. The actual list is probabaly still in the works, or not even started, because as he's said many times, GL is waiting until EP3 is done to worry about the dvds.

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Originally posted by: Master Sifo-Dyas
In my opinion, he should have put up a cleaned up (but otherwise untouched) version of the OT in theatres 1997 and wait with the changes until after the prequels. All we have now, is just another soon to be called 'early roughcut' version, that will become obsolete in 2007."


That was always my opinion as well. The OT would of done just as well in rerelease because it was a chance for those like me who had never seen them in theatres to see them on the big screen. Infact he could of waited a bit longer, like 1998 so that the OT rerelease would have the TPM trailers infront of it, that really would of hyped people up.

Then when the PT was done he could go in and do one SE, with the most uptodate CG of the time and a clear idea of anything that needed to be added to fit with the PT (ie Jimmy Smitts)

Of course half the reason the SE was done (according to a lucas interview in premiere circa 1999) was to get 20thcentury fox to pay for what essentially was R&D for the prequel FX. GL wanted to see what could be done with CG for SW and he decided to do it on Fox's nickle. In the end the SE's toppled the boxoffice during their theatrical release and everyone made money off of it. But accord to Lucas the main incentive was to test the CG.
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#34388
Topic
Because I'm a big geek: another rewrite
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EXT. PHOENIX - NIGHT

At the far end of the hanger, Obi-wan approaches the spice freighter known as THE PHONIEX. The ship is sleek and impressive in all respects. CAPTAIN CHORUS, the commanding officer approaches him. He is tall man, middle aged, well built and proud. He has tanned skin and a moustache.

OBI-WAN
Your ship looks impressive for a freighter.

CHORUS
Thanks, you must be Kenobi. I’m Captain Chorus. This is the Phoenix.

OBI-WAN
Yes I know, your manoeuvres at the battle of Ryloth are well documented

The captain gives a humble smile.

CHORUS
Greatly exaggerated, I assure you.

The two men turn and walk towards the ships landing ramp.

CHORUS
Captain Antilles has already brought over that damaged droid you requested. We can leave as soon as you like.

OBI-WAN
Thank you Captain, time is against us.

Obi-wan turns and enters the ship.


EXT. PLANET ALDERAAN - NIGHT

THE PHOENIX zooms away from ALDERAAN into space.


INT. PHOENIX NAVIGATION ROOM - NIGHT

Obi-wan enters the navigation room. It is dark except for many blinking lights and computer read outs.

Anakin is slumped in a chair nearby. He turns as he hears Obi-wan enter the room.

OBI-WAN
Oh, I’m sorry I didn’t mean to disturb you. I’m looking for the ships navigator.

ANAKIN
You're looking at him.

Obi-wan is a bit surprised, given Anakin’s age.

Anakin stands up to shake his hand.

ANAKIN
I’m Anakin.

OBI-WAN
Obi-wan Kenobi.

ANAKIN
I suppose you have some co-ordinates for me.

Obi-wan retrieves the tracking device from his cloak.

OBI-WAN
I’ve been tracking the movements of another ship with this.

He hands it to Anakin, who plugs the device into his computer. The two stand over the monitor, their faces illuminated by it.

OBI-WAN
I need you to chart a course that will allow us to intercept them before they reach this planet.

He points to the monitor.

ANAKIN
Tatooine?

OBI-WAN
Yes. Can it be done?

ANAKIN
I’ll figure something out.


EXT. SPACE - NIGHT

The Phoenix soars through space.


INT. PHOENIX NAVIGATION ROOM - NIGHT

Anakin punches a few keys on his computer then leans back in his chair, grinning with pride.

ANAKIN
There.

Obi-wan gets up from his chair and moves to join Anakin.

ANAKIN
It’ll be tight, but we’ll get there with a few minutes to spare.

OBI-WAN
Are you sure? You calculated that rather fast.

ANAKIN
Trust me, I’m never wrong about this stuff.

Obi-wan smiles.

OBI-WAN
You must be strong with the force. I’ve never seen anyone calculate navigation that quickly, much less someone your age.

Anakin smiles back knowingly, then leans forward to an intercom, to speak with Captain Corrus.

ANAKIN
All the co-ordinates are set Captain.

CORRUS
[VOICE OVER]
Alright, strap yourselves in.


EXT. SPACE - NIGHT

The ship zooms away into space.

INT. PHOENIX MESS HALL - NIGHT

Obi-wan sits in the cramped mess hall, which only has two tables, and sips some tea, lost in thought.

Anakin enters, a mischievous grin on his face.

ANAKIN
I’m not bothering you am I?

OBI-WAN
Not at all.

ANAKIN
I wanted to show you something.

He unrolls a piece of cloth, Obi-wan’s eyes widen as Anakin reveals its contents: a lightsaber.

ANAKIN
I’ve been working on it for a while now. It’s a Jedi laser sword.

Obi-wan is awestruck.

OBI-WAN
You constructed this yourself?

Anakin nods.

ANAKIN
Its not finished yet, I’m not sure why, but the crystal keeps overloading the plasma resonator.

He picks it up.

ANAKIN
Watch.

Obi-wan watches with amazement as Anakin activates his lightsaber. The blade glows a brilliant green. The hum growing louder and louder. The blade of light begins to crackle and destabilize. Sparks fly out of it, and electric current shoots off of the blade hitting the metallic tables and walls. The energy is growing more and more out of control, then its fizzles out, a few sparks fly from the handle and it goes silent.

Anakin looks down with dismay.

ANAKIN
I’m not sure what I’m doing wrong, It does that every time.

OBI-WAN
Well no wonder, you’re trying to make it far too powerful.

He chuckles, as he stands up. Anakin hands him the lightsaber and he begins to examine its inner workings.

OBI-WAN
Here…

Obi-wan’s excitement gets the better of him and he takes out his own lightsaber and ignites it.

The blade hums quietly as it cuts through the air, the blade glows blue, but does not overload like Anakin’s.

OBI-WAN
I’m only utilizing a fraction of the power you were attempting, yet my blade is balanced, stable, and more then adequate against any adversary I might face.

He swipes the saber through the air, he smiles then shuts it off. He picks up Anakin’s saber and makes some quick adjustments.

OBI-WAN
Still it’s remarkable that you were able to construct one at all. It’s an ancient technique that even many fully trained Jedi knights have difficulty mastering.

Anakin completes the modifications.

He hands it back to Anakin.

OBI-WAN
Here, try this instead.

Anakin holds out the saber, and activates it. It hums, blue and stable like Obi-wan’s.

Anakin waves it through the air grinning.

OBI-WAN
Less is often more. Sometimes too much strength is actually a weakness.

Suddenly Obi-wan gets an idea, and reaching into his bag retrieves a white spherical remote used for training Jedis.

OBI-WAN
Here. You can use this remote for practice if you like.

Anakin’s eyes light up as he takes the remote from Obi-wan.

ANAKIN
Thanks.


EXT. HYPERSPACE CORRIDOR - DAY

The SLAVE MASTER soars beyond space and time.


INT. SLAVEMASTER - DAY

Uzi approaches Jango.

JANGO
What is it?

UZI
We’ve detected a foreign device on our hull. It appears to be emitting a long-range signal.

Jango grits his teeth.

JANGO
A homing beacon.

UZI
Yes sir.

JANGO
Did you reverse the signal to its source?

UZI
Yes Colonel, they’ve tracked us from Alderaan, and it appears they’ll be waiting for us when we get to Tatooine.

Jango leans in close to Uzi.

JANGO
Engage the cloaking device.

UZI
Yes sir.


EXT. HYPERSPACE CORRIDOR - DAY

The Phoenix soars through the kaleidoscope of time and space.


INT. BRIDGE OF THE PHOENIX - DAY

Obi-wan enters the darkened bridge as Chorus turns in his captain’s chair to speak with him.

CHORUS
We’ll be coming up on Tatooine soon, thanks to our trusty navigator.

Obi-wan grins.

OBI-WAN
He’s a remarkable boy.

CHORUS
He is indeed. Skywalker has brought us great fortune.

At this Obi-wan goes pale.

OBI-WAN
Skywalker?

He steadies himself sitting down in a nearby chair, looking faint.

OBI-WAN
You say Anakin’s last name is Skywalker?

CORRUS
Yeah. Why, what’s wrong, you look like you’ve seen a ghost.

Chorus looks confused as Obi-wan shakes off his puzzlement.

OBI-WAN
Well there’s no such thing as ghosts.
(beat)
But sometimes the past does comeback to haunt us.

Obi-wan is lost in thought for a moment. As a signal sounds, Chorus turns in his chair and speaks to his first officer.

CHORUS
Prepare to drop out of hyperspace.

From the bridge window, the stars streak back to normal as the ship slows, the golden brown orb of Tatooine is in the distances.


EXT. SPACE - DAY

The Phoenix looms to
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#34387
Topic
Because I'm a big geek: another rewrite
Time
STAR WARS
Episode I
Attack of the Clones

For over a thousand generations, the JEDI ORDER has kept the peace in the great GALACTIC REPUBLIC, through use of the mystical energy field known only as THE FORCE.

But now the civility is in jeopardy, rivalries between the various guilds and factions, has given way to rising tension near the galaxies outer rim territories.

Among the Jedi assigned to patrol the Republic’s border, OBI-WAN KENOBI and his apprentice DRAKE VECTOR find themselves in pursuit of a mysterious vessel, which has just emerged from the outlaw regions of space…


EXT. SPACE - NIGHT

PAN DOWN through the stars. We see a sleek silver spacing guild shuttle as it zooms through space towards us. The ships tiny cannons fire a few blue lasers blasts into its wake where a Republic Blockade runner pursues them, returning fire with yellow laser blasts from its own weapons.


INT. SPACING GUILD SHUTTLE - NIGHT

DOULTRY DOFINE a cowardly Nemodian stands huddled in the bridge of the small vessel as it is rocked by another blast. He is a tall alien with large eyes and clammy green skin. He is adorned in ornate purple robes, and his bulbous head sports a tall headdress. The ship is small, barely more then one room. Two spindly droids sit at the ships helm, mechanically punching buttons and pulling switches as they pilot the beleaguered vessel. To Dofine’s left is another robot, C3P0 a silver protocol droid made to resemble a human.

C3P0
This is hopeless! Sir you must surrender or we’ll be destroyed!

He speaks in a prissy aristocratic tone.

DOFINE
Better that then in the hands of the Jedi.


EXT. SPACE - NIGHT

The Blockade-runner closes in on the Spacing guild shuttle.


INT. SPACING GUILD SHUTTLE - NIGHT

The ship lurches and then goes still. Dofine hammers his fist on the arm of his captain‘s chair.

DOFINE
What has happened? Why have we stopped?

PILOT DROID S6P1
We appear to be caught in their tractor beam.

DOFINE
Curses!


EXT. SPACE - NIGHT

The Nemodian’s ship, now disabled, sits motionless in space as the blockade-runner floats up beside it, extending a tube shaped bridge to board the outlaw vessel.


INT. SPACING GUILD SHUTTLE - NIGHT

At the back of the bridge is a short corridor ending in a single door. Dofine gets up from the ships controls, reading a laser pistol in his defence.

Suddenly the door slides open, and Jedi Knight OBI-WAN KENOBI enters the ship. He is adorned in white armour and robes. A sleek white helmet covers his head, a white cape flows behind him. He is a young man in his mid to late twenties. Clean cut and has a twinkle in his eyes.

Next to Obi-wan is his apprentice, DRAKE VECTOR. A tall well built alien with shaggy red hair and a ridged forehead. His eyes are sunken and dark. His nose is similar to the snout of a dog. From the sides of his mouth jut small tusks. Drake wears the robes of a Jedi apprentice, white and formfitting.

Dofine moves to attack but before he can fire a single shot Obi-wan extends his hand, and as if by magic the pistol flies through the air out of Dofine’s hand and into the Jedi’s.

Remaining calm, Obi-wan surveys the bridge. Inside the blockade-runner behind the two Jedi stand a few Republic guards. Obi-wan hands the confisPadmed pistol to GARRET ANTILLES, their captain.

Kenobi folds his arms in front of him.

OBI-WAN
Leave him to me.

Garret nods, signalling for his men to remain in the doorway, as Obi-wan enters the shuttle.

Obi-wan takes a step towards the desperate alien.

OBI-WAN
Tell me, what business does a chief magistrate from the spacing guild have in the lawless regions of the outer rim territories?

DOFINE
I am not afraid of you! You can’t prove a thing!

As Dofine is speaking, Drake walks over to a number of tin crates piled on one side of the cabin. With cold indifference he puts the heel of his boot against one and kicks it, knocking it to the floor. The crate breaks open and thousands of silver coloured coins come spilling out. Obi-wan looks to the money on the floor, and raises an eyebrow as Nemodian shivers with worry.

DRAKE
This sure seems like a lot of currency credits to be traveling with, wouldn’t you agree master?

Obi-wan raises an eyebrow.

OBI-WAN
Indeed.

C3P0 interjects.

C3P0
Sir please you must co-operate! If you tell them about the plan perhaps they will grant you amnesty…

Dofine grows angry, snapping at C3P0 and then at Obi-wan and Drake.

DOFINE
Shut up you fool! Do your worst Jedi! I will tell you nothing!

Obi-wan still calm, takes another step forward, holding out his hand and gesturing with his fingers.

OBI-WAN
On the contrary, you will tell me everything.

Dofine, clutches his temples, resisting Obi-wan’s Jedi mind control technique.

DOFINE
Your mind trick… will not work… on me…

Obi-wan makes the gesture again, taking another step forward, keeping his eyes locked on Dofine’s.

OBI-WAN
You will tell me about your plans, and who else is involved.

DOFINE
No! No he’ll kill me!

Obi-wan waves his hand again.

OBI-WAN
Tell me what I want to know, and we will protect you.

The Neomodian continues to resist, squealing and running over to one of the cockpits opening a small compartment

DOFINE
No!

He grabs a silver sphere with a red button and clutches it desperately in his hand.

C3P0
Master Dofine no!

Obi-wan’s eyes widen in fear as the Dofine begins to cackle insanely and the silver ball begins to hum louder and louder.

The two Jedi jumps out of the shuttle back aboard the republic vessel.

DRAKE
Thermal detonator!


INT. BLOCKADE RUNNER - NIGHT

They jump through the doorway, as one of the men hit’s the button, which seals the outer door. Garret has only enough time to hit an intercom for a brief warning.

GARRET
Raise the shields! Brace for impact!


EXT. SPACE - NIGHT

Still side by side with the republic cruiser, the guild ship explodes in a violent fireball.


INT. BLOCKADE RUNNER - NIGHT

Obi-wan, Drake and the men are rocked violently as their ship shakes from the blast. Sparks fly from nearby panels and the lights dim. A moment passes and then emergency red lights activate.

Obi-wan gets up, patting the nearest soldier on the back.

OBI-WAN
Everyone alright?

The small crew of men nod, no worse for wear.


EXT. SPACE - NIGHT

Debris from the spacing guild vessel floats lifelessly all around the blockade-runner, which is blackened on one side from the blast.

Panels open on the sides and magnetic collectors extend, drawing pieces of the debris towards them.


INT. MAGNETIC CONTROL ROOM - NIGHT

In a darkened room aboard the ship Obi-wan, Drake and Garret supervise a young officer who sits at a control station.

GARRET
Looking for anything specific?

OBI-WAN
There was a protocol droid on board. If we can recover his memory systems, it may shed some light on this mystery.

The young officer perks up, turning some large dials at his controls. The light from the computer screen is the room’s only illumination.

MAGNETIC OPERATOR
There. I think I’ve got him.


EXT. SPACE - NIGHT

Battered and burnt but still intact, C3P0’s head as well as most of his torso and a few other pieces of the ill-fated droid are drawn to the magnets and pulled into the ship.


INT. MAGNETIC RECOVERY ROOM - NIGHT

Hi-tech doors slide open and a small conveyor moves the remains of the golden droid towards Obi-wan, who looks at them with dismay.

GARRET
We’ve been without a droi
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#34318
Topic
Read these two articles please...
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Originally posted by: Luke30
I really hope that George Lucas restore the original han & greedo scene from ANH (the one where han shoots first). .



According to a recent GL interview, Greedo ALWAYS shot first, and it was just an editing mistake that made it look otherwise.

[COUGH]Whatever![/COUGH]

I like how he simotaneously denies Han shooting first (like we're idiots or something) and at the same time blames his ex-wife for the confusion.


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BUT in the Special Edition, Han can't shoot Greedo and then bump into Jabba later on without jerking out his blaster and popping some rounds. It wouldn't make dramatic sense to shoot first against Greedo so that he won't be taken to Jabba, but then gleefully converse with Jabba as if nothing happened later on.


Even if thats the case, the change doesn't solve this problem, which is yet another reason why the Jabba scene should of remained on the cutting room floor (or Avid delete bin).
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#34316
Topic
We should've protested years ago
Time
The Se had been announced, but since this was back when Lucas could do no wrong I think most people assumed the SE would only make the OV pale in comparison. Me and my brother bought the THX release just because we had never owned the trilogy save for the taped of TV versions, but I was all like "well you can have this one when the SE comes out because it'll probably have some collectors item value and maybe you can sell it one dayy, and I'll keep the SE"

Man, at the time I thought I was really outsmarting my little brother, was I ever wrong.
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#34314
Topic
Who is the hottest babe in the star wars universe?
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Originally posted by: Bossk
I will amend that to Harrison's attitude of late. He was the coolest guy around when he was still happily married to his now ex-wife (the second ex) and living in Wyoming and so removed from the Hollywood scene. Now, he's just completely ruined his image and his reputation. Sadly, his resume of the last couple of years reads like a How to Be A Hollywood Has-Been book (although I did like him in What Lies Beneath - he desperately needed to play a villain at least once in his career).


agreed.

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#34086
Topic
Digital Bits thoughts?
Time
True, but considering I signed up the same time as you its sort of funny how much difference there is in our post counts. Not that I'm complaining, I was with TF.n for 4 years, and even though many found me outspoken and a constant presence, my post count was only 6000, which was a fraction of what some guys had who had been there only a year.
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#34085
Topic
Read these two articles please...
Time
Agreed. Its not like Han was shooting an unarmed guy, this was a guy sent to kill him. It was self defense already, just badass self defense. it didn;t need to be made silly.

Anyone remember when this scene wasn't the posterchild for the decline of SW, this actually use to be my favorite scene in ANH, and now all I can think about it is how it was bastardized.