RU.08

Could someone re-up the trailer?

Well the film was first shown in English at the Cannes film festival, where it's reported that the audience laughed at the performance of the antagonist's audio dub, and the quality of some of the other supporting actors was also not great. Since the audio track had a poor reception it of course would be changed.

At some point a new dub was done for the upcoming USA theatrical release (which then never happened), and this is what's known as the re-dub.

Maybe you need to install VobSub? They display fine in my VLC.

That looks awful.

Here's an example of how I would do it using the GOUT DVD (note that Team Blu did it even better than this):

Script:

LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files (x86)\GordianKnot\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
mpeg2source("empire-gout.d2v").killaudio()
DeBlock_QED()
crop(0,124,0,-124)
FastDegrain(3)
QTGMC(InputType=2,Sharpness=0,TR2=0,NoiseProcess=2)
crop(0,0,0,-2)
spline36resize(width()*2,height()*4)
ResampleHQ(1280,544,dither=true,chroma_kernel="Spline36")
MSharpen(1,50)
MSharpen(2,60)
blur(0.4)

Ah cool, it'd be great if you could post some screenshots if you have the ability. I don't intend to buy it, I'll wait for a UK or USA release.

Apparently it only has the Cannes audio tack, lol. You'd think with BD's they could at least include all the audios!

Yeah I don't know, he might have done them but they never got circulated or something? Who knows, they're pretty well done fan-edits though - creative use of material etc.

It is now!

I posted this thread and then put the torrent up, and then I was seeding too many torrents so it didn't even start seeding! Like a typical noob who has no idea LOL!

Plus I didn't expect anyone to read this thread and want the film so fast... But I guess take advantage of the 41 hours left of freeleech if you can!

I wonder if anyone's seen the Japanese bluray and what it's like?

Purpose:

To present Opera in open-matte - 1.77:1

Discussion:

As far as I know about, it appears there’s only one DVD transfer of the film used for every DVD release since 2001. But I stumbled across an interesting find. The 2011 84 Entertainment release has an unfinished version of the film.

After being scanned, the transfer was cleaned for scratches and dust (although the raw transfer is pretty clean for the most part). It was cropped to about 2.29:1. For 12 minutes from 1:13:17 - 1:25:03 the image was scanned in reverse, so the image was flipped back the correct way.

The 84 Ent release didn’t incorporate any of these corrections, so they must have used an earlier uncorrected master.

In addition to incorporating the fixes, the Arrow DVD is higher quality because it has less pixels to encode, thus the overall detail is a bit higher (even though the bit-rate is very similar to the EC Ent disc). The Arrow disc has English subtitles that contain numerous spelling errors.

I took this source, flipped the image from 1:13:17 - 1:25:03 to the correct way, and pasted the Arrow DVD image over the top (this took care of most of the scratches in the 2.29:1 area of the frame).

I then filtered the video to reduce the haloing present on the disc, and some other minor issues.

I also used my upscale script, added some film grain, and I’m pleased with the result.

Details:

11.1 GB.

Video:

x264 Encoded to BD Comparability.
1280 x 720
23.976 fps
14.0 Mbps

Audio:

AAC
Track 1: 5.1 English re-dub
Track 2: 2.0 English Cannes dub
Track 3: 2.0 Italian Theatrical
Track 4: 2.0 German Theatrical*

Subtitles*:

English

*Thanks go to faust1103. The German track includes some sections in Italian that require subtitles. I have included download links for the subs in the torrent description.

Availability:

MySpleen

Screenshots (yes I know they don’t fit correctly, just drag them into the tab bar to see the full images):

The Unresized DVD images are below.

The first three show scratches that are on the 84 Ent disc but are corrected on the Arrow disc.

These last two captures are examples from the 12 minutes where the video is the wrong way around on the 84 Ent disc.

FYI I'll be putting this on Demonoid as x264 encodes within a couple of days. They're encoded and ready to go, I just need to correct the subtitles for Ep II. Approx size is 4.5GB.

I think he means vhs resolution. ;)

darklordoftech said:

1080i requires a CRT. All other tvs convert it to 720p but add a blur to the image in the process.

 Rubbish, all non-CRT TVs deinterlace 1080i etc. They don't convert it to 720p (unless they're old 720p sets) they convert it to 1080p60, whilst losing about 5% off the margin (19% in total) to overscan. Even if 1080p was a broadcast format it would still need to be resized for overscan when displayed on a tv. I'm not sure why you think it "blurs" the image - modern tv sets have excellent deinterlace chips.

720p images also have to be converted to the TVs resolution whilst losing at least 19% of the resolution to overscan.

Handman said:

Getting back on track, here are some images from the P&S VHS. Let me know if there are any specific parts you want to see. They are presented in their native resolution. The first image is... ironic?

 Nice, thanks. :)

I have put this on the Speen, because that's how I roll.

NTSC DVD5 x2

Because 1080p isn't a broadcast standard - they either have to use 1080i or 720p.

Handman said:

Thanks for letting me know. As ray_afraid pointed out, the Pan and Scan release differs a little from the original theatrical cut, and the Pan and Scan-iness offers a possible nostalgia factor. I'll still offer this to anyone who wants it, though there are other options, as you said.

 FYI I was a bit lazy and didn't make a link, it's althor1138's, and there are some screenshots in his thread

Could you post some screenshots of your version? Thanks.

Yep - I suppose maybe someone could send you the NTSC version instead and then you won't need to re-encode?

Do you want me to send you the R4 audio track from AOTC? It wouldn't need any patching, unlike the R2...

I have put this set, including the extras disc, on the spleen.

Handman, there's a cap of the Jap widescreen LD on the spleen if that interests you, it's the theatrical cut and has japaneese subtitles throughout (subtitles are in the borders not the picture). It's pretty close to DVD quality.

SilentxStatik24, I've sent you a PM (link at the top-right of the page) with all the basic info to get you started. :)

You need to PM any of us and we'll give you an invite to the spleen. :)

That is unless you already have one in your PM box that you haven't seen yet.

Congrats Harmy!! I'll wait for the full mkv, but certainly appreciate all the effort you've gone to to restore ESB, easily the best star wars film, to its full glory!

I wonder what video codec he used - avi isn't properly compatible with h.264/mpeg-4 and most software out there used to encode mp4 will automatically mux it to .mp4 or .mkv not .avi... and he says "convert mkv to avi" as if he doesn't even realize that the container format has nothing to do with the video format. As I said before!

TV's Frink said:

Have you ever tried seamless branching before?  From what I hear, it usually ain't so seamless.

 True for DVD but I think bluray is a different matter as the files are physically different.

ilovewaterslides said:

I think this scanner should work like a charm with 35mm copies but they're not going to tell: "Now you can finally scan all your 35mm theatrical copies for a reasonable price" on their site since it's not completely legal to own one. That was the goal of my initial post.

All I did was quote poita and he said that the scanner won't work for old negatives or for prints and that it is only suited to newly shot material. In any case it doesn't matter since he, team -1 and others have their own film scanners that are much higher quality and that renders this scanner useless at least for preservationists (it might be useful for other uses though).

You're wrong about the legality - at the very least the studios own the prints, and many DVD and BD releases are mastered from prints and not negatives so I would think that given the target consumer they would want to advertise the full potential of their scanner.

Sweet, looking forward to it!