ty hh, I'll check it out.. quick noob q 4 moth3r... how did u make this mix?
I've seen dvd's mastered at 29.97 fps (interlaced) that were from a film > pal then field-blend to 23.976fps! The jaggies (in the gout) are there because the fields were scanned individually (i'm just about certain)... (this was perfectly normal in 1993), but the DVNR is totally inexcusable. The very few flaws in the film scan that it covered up was no where near the inexhaustiveproblems that it created... probably Lucas thought it looked better like that?
rofl, O.M. goes to the trouble of downloading the uncompressed files and offers a "narrow minded opinion"? vbangle must have a bug up his ass or something!
I have a total noob question, but there's 97 pages to this topic and I'm not going to search for hours for an answer: is this transfer just the DC sets? Not JSC or any other?
Yeah that's right a D1 tape, which supports PAL or NTSC resolution component video (480i/567i), the telecine was most likely done directly when the film was scanned. In fact I would say this would be almost a sure and certain fact, since if the scanner hadn't scanned each field seperatly then those awful jaggies in the picture wouldn't be there. You're quite right you don't normally want to be in a hurry to put them back into frames.
^^Jetrell Fo It'd be easy enough to drop-in replace the gout version that you're using (NTSC-GOUT/PAL-SE), in fact all you'd have to do is set it to resize the gout to the pal resolution and check the frame nubering between the pal/ntsc SE. It wouldn't give you much improvement though since most of the scenes would be from the SE anyway, maybe some very slight detail here and there since its unresized from the LD master tape. Anyway, I have ripped my 6x 2006 SW DVD's, I'll have a play with the g-force script (output non-resized, etc) to simply "clean" the source.
BTW did I mention how bad the gout SW looks!
Happy Moth3r 's day, rofl!
Thanks Mallwalker, I'll check it out. I'm going to have to rip all 6 discs again, haven't got a single iso stored (rofl). It looks like the new gforce script is made to work on ntsc discs? Ahh it doesn't matter I can easily adapt it. All I really need now is that list of the required plugins for this script. Too bad it'll take a whole week to g-force all my discs again, lol.
althor1138, I'd like to help adapt your script to PAL properly, could you please post some screengrabs with the frame numbers so I can identify how the numbering of the frames lines up with the PAL version? For instance frame 1200 might be frame 1202 in the PAL version and consistently +2 frames, It'd be really helpful to do that. The other thing is, the g-force script that I have is probably out of date, but I don't know where in the thread the new one for the PAL discs are, can you/someone please point me to it? I do have the raw 50+ GB files from when I did it a year or so ago, but I'm thinking I'll redo them all from scratch in a way that is better suited to combining with non-se special-edition scenes.
Also, please post all the Loadplugin lines, I remember with great difficulty setting up the g-force script for the first time for the very reason that the required plugins are not directly intuitive (for instance, some of them you need specific versions)!
Thanks for this project, btw, it should be really good... especially since it'll allow people to make their own video from their own 2006 DVD's easily.
Removing the dvnr is only possible with replacement, yes I agree. Has anyone done a good transfer of the JSC yet (which could be used to drop-in replacements)?
From reading, it seems that what upsets most peeps here is the dvnr (digital video noise reduction) applied that ghosts the image, looses fine detail, and generally reduces the overall quality.
I would suggest learning how to use the g-force avisynth script as, if nothing else, it will teach you a bit about avisynth and get you started in the right direction. It stabalizes the horizontal image shake in the movies, something that would be near impossible to do manually. Plus you could potentially apply it to other DVD's. But it's up to you after all, and nothing you do will make it any worse than it was to begin with (rofl)!
What can you do to the gout manually that will be so much better than what it already is when put through the g-force script? I don't mean to discourrage you, but the gout can only look so good, no ammount of manual labour will ever turn it into A-grade DVD quality, let alone anything else!
Why? Is it they think they worship it more than u? ;-)
You know I've seen movies that were made on 16mm film AND are older than SW (chainsaw massacre for instance) that look better on DVD than the original Star Wars. Thoes film cells look amazing, it's good to know that at least SW is preserved in 35mm film at the moment! I just watched Terminator 1 the other day on an HD-LCD projector that was loaned to me at 480p (from the old double-sided DVD), and it looked, and sounded AWESOME; and that wasn't even an HD video which would have been better still! It may be crazy to invest in transfering your own print of SW, but I'm pretty sure my lucas is crazy boardering on insane for what he's done to his own movies! BTW u guys must worship SW or something?