RU.08

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@RU.08: there are a lot of problems that I had to solve, to improve the quality of video, and even so, result isn't 100% perfect, but just a very good compromise; so, it will take a lot of time to find out which filters and settings to use to better the quality, and they will be impaired using a compressed version as source... nevertheless, is someone is still interesting in a compressed version of the raw capture...

The drop in quality won't be very significant. The analogue noise and artifacts are way stronger than any compression artifacts introduced by mpeg4 at that quality setting, and I don't think you'd loose any significant actual detail. In any case it's up to you!

Yep 35 gig sounds right for a "raw" YV12/YUV file. You could encode using x264 on quality 14 and it wouldn't be much larger than 3-4 GB, if that. I'd love to get a chance to look at the unfiltered video too, but my biggest qualm is I don't know how to address the analogue noise (eg the yellowing near the lines).

Okay change of plans. The DVD is field-blended, so I'm putting the DVD's as-is up on the spleen now, as we speak, and a deinterlaced version will follow in a few days on demonoid.

If, however, you want to deinterlace it yourself here is my avisynth script:

mpeg2source("ohmss-abc-part1.d2v")

crop(16,48,-24,-48)

 

 

#DeBlock - you'll not lose any quality and it's a fast script.

DeBlock_QED()

 

 

#Reduce field chroma-ghosting

#(this makes a big improvement)...

separatefields()

PointResize(width(),height()*2)

interleave(selecteven().crop(0,2,0,0).addborders(0,0,0,2),selectodd())

interleave(repair(selecteven(),selectodd(),0,9,9),repair(selectodd(),selecteven(),0,9,9))

interleave(selecteven().crop(0,0,0,-2).addborders(0,2,0,0),selectodd())

crop(0,4,0,-4)

PointResize(width(),height()/2)

weave()

 

 

#Deinterlace

crop(6,10,0,-10)

QTGMC(Preset="Slower")

 

 

# Restore from 59.95p to 25p (script is called twice so it doesn't lose sync)

AssumeFPS(60000,1001)

trim(0,183056).FixBlend() ++ trim(183057,0).FixBlend()

 

Function FixBlend(clip orig){

 orig.changefps(25*4,linear=false)

 selectevery(4,2)

 return last

}

 

 

#Convert from 25p (PAL speed) to 23.976p (NTSC speed)

#Note your audio will need to be converted eg:

#eac3to "audio.ac3" audio-23.976p.ac3 -192 -slowdown -25.000

assumefps(23.976)

If anyone has the original PAL release then of course the de-interlacing won't be necessary!

The same script will work for both parts.

I agree - 1080p is 2.25x the size (in pixels) of 720p.

Both Tem Blu's SW and Harmy's Despecialized have the 35mm stereo track as one of the audio tracks. You can get the Despecialized edition from demonoid (which I'm seeding) or myspleen and Team Blu's SW on myspleen. PM me if you need an invite. There is probably some other versions (eg Laserdisc rips) on the spleen with sync'd audio.

Doubt it, they (Team Blu) upscaled the source in Avisynth using QTGMC, apparently on placebo to deinterlace (address the aliasing). QTGMC is very slow - it also has the unfortunate ability to create ghosting and destroy fine movement when used on progressive material so you have to be careful with the progressive settings ... this can be done this way for instance: repair(QTGMC(Preset="Fast",InputType=2),last).

poita said:

Hahaha!

I think I own more legit retail versions of Star Wars than anyone on the planet.

 *and non-retail versions. ;)

Sounds great, looking forward to getting it! :)

I've nearly got disc 1 from the share-online files - once I have both discs I'll do an x264 encode (quality will be transparent to the dvd) and up on demonoid - and if anyone asks (best to do this by PM) I am happy to upload the video_ts folders untouched on the spleen. This is one of my favorite Bond films but I've never seen this cut! Looking forward to it.

Can you open the .iso in 7zip?

Well he did say foreign negative so it'd be a distinct possibility!

Nice one Poita good luck, I'm sorry I can't help financially but I hope you get support from others members. Is LPP the same as IB/Technicolor or is it a different stock altogether? I only ask because I was under the impression IB's were discontinued around the time of Star Wars and that it was "fortunate" there were any of SW let alone any movies that came after it?

zombie84 said:

Closer to being done than I thought. If only I could solve this damn interlacing problem. Womble's de-interlacer basically doesn't work, and 50% of the video here is interlaced. Any suggestions? I would hate to have every new shot full of interlacing artifacts, would kind of kill the thrill.

I had no trouble deinterlacing the beta in Avisynth:

mpeg2source("blade-runner-FIXED.d2v")

TFM(d2v="blade-runner-FIXED.d2v")

TDecimate()

I just watched the edit. I saw one problem at 17:50 with a badly interlaced shot. I'd already uploaded a MKV to demonoid (2.3GB and so far I've seeded 13Gigs on it). :) Had I seen it beforehand I would have corrected it, just needs QTGMC in that one shot.

Here's my script as you would use it on the beta with QTGMC used to correct that one shot:

mpeg2source("blade-runner-FIXED.d2v")

TFM(d2v="blade-runner-FIXED.d2v")

TDecimate()

crop(0,48,0,-48)

DeBlock_QED()

crop(0,12,0,-14)

addborders(0,60,0,62)

trim(0,25648 ) ++ \

trim(25649,25798).QTGMC(Preset="Slower").selecteven() ++ \

trim(25799,0)

Very good work on this fanedit - I've not actually watched it since I originally downloaded it (August 2011) - hence why I made the MKV and uploaded it for others to enjoy.

Ford is a fitness freak like Chuck Norris, he'd be up to the challenge (if he had both his legs) -as for Hamill and Fisher though that's another story - I do hope Hamill took some acting lessons this time round...

Mark Hamill Stubs Toe, Delays Star Wars Filming ... well he's no Harrison!

I'm hoping, as I mentioned before, that -1's release encourages Fox/Disney to do a better job on the next bluray release of the OT.

You do know they can just use a stunt-double and CGI on Harrison's head, right? There's no reason why they'd have to change anything...

Could you post the two frames with the burn marks on the Tantive IV?

team_negative1 said:

Just for public notice. Not that we are completely ready, but at some point this issue needs to be addressed. As you can see we have made some substantial progress.

Once we are done with the first version that is viewable by our standards, we would like some feedback before the final release.

I'm very pleased to hear you're nearing competition, especially since Lucasfilm couldn't even be bothered to do a fresh scan for the 2011 bluray despite all the shortcomings of the DVD transfer.

I'm pretty sure (though this is just my opinion) that Lucasfilm will now do a new transfer of the films for Bluray in time for Episode 7 (so 2015), and with Lucas out of the picture I believe that would at the very least include the Theatrical version of Empire Strikes Back since that's what the director wishes. Beating Disney/20th Century Fox on the release of SW will encourage them to do a much better job of the transfer than the obsolete 2004 one even if it is just the SE, which it probably will be. That's if they aren't already motivated by the You Too's CC edition and the other versions.

Well done and good luck with your release team -1, the previews you've posted look great!

Tanks Yoo Too, that's very helpful!

You_Too said:

SamS said:

Yes, there is an occasional bit of aliasing, but when compared to the 2006 GOUT DVDs, I'd say it's 90% eliminated.  I'd love to know what technical process was used to reduce/eliminate the aliasing?  I came here in 2006 in attempts to correct the aliasing myself, and upscale the GOUT DVDs to anamorphic.  I succeeded in the anamorphic part, but never got anywhere with the aliasing.

I tried many methods until I found an avisynth plugin called QTGMC which on its very slowest setting did an amazing job on antialiasing. Especially since it didn't destroy any detail while doing it.

SamS said:

Also, how did you guys get so much damn detail out of the original source?  So impressive.

It's a combination of a careful upscaling and using Msharpen to dig out detail from within the grain.

SamS said:

I have downloaded but not watched the 97SE, yet.  What was the source for this one?

The so called TB version. We looked at all available sources and this one had the most preserved detail.

 Yoo Too, would you be able to tell me what setting you used on msharpen, and which resizing filters you used? I have some other videos I want to upscale, and I've already taken care of noise and aliasing, and I'm trying to figure out the best way to scale to HD.

Thanks

If I rip the R4 DVD audio from AOTC and change fps from 25 to 24000/1001 will it mux straight to your version?

So I noticed demonoid had an old version up (probably with no seeds though haha), and being that Harmy said it was OK I upped the 2.5 MKV there - a bunch of people jumped on it and it's now self-seeded.

Posting to let you know that you should be pleased it's made at least 20 demonoid users so far happy (and probably countless more in the future)!

Thanks so much for all the work involved in this Harmy, look forward to seeing your future projects!!

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I bought the DVD now :) still haven't watched the movie. You were most certainly correct that speedup is present (the video is 25p from appaerantly 24p film). The source doesn't look too bad, and "srestore" in avisynth fixes all the probs in one hit without any issues that I saw in vDub. Also, it appears to me the effects are in 24p not 30p, from what little i could tell in vDub, and looking though the part of DrWho walking through the window it looked fine. Hopefully I can encode it soon and watch it!

I did notice some minor combing in areas where the fields were out of sync, so post-processing wouldn't be a bad idea.

For a pure, "unfiltered" video:

# Fix field errors
Yadif(Order=0,Mode=1)
srestore(Frate=25,speed=1)
AssumeFPS(23.976) # Or just use AssumeFPS(24)

# Crop side borders, and resize vertically (4:3 mod16)
crop(10,2,-6,-2)
Spline36Resize(704,528)

Just going to decide upon what post-processing to use before I encode it.

BTW: to reiterate, if their source is a 30i telecine NTSC tape, they *should* have, *easily* gone to it and IVTC'd it properly, it's so bleatingly easy!

^^That was posted a year ago. :(

^^^^ :o Amazing you were able to find it! It's been OOP for like a decade! I can't remember when I bought mine it was that long ago! :) Before that I had the movie on VHS. These days I'm a big Paul Verhoeven fan.. well except for Hollow Man, that movie sucked! What a way to end your hollywood career!

Moth3r said:

Why are you carrying out IVTC? Couldn't you just use force film in DGIndex?

What's your final intended format? If making AVCHD/BD then I think you'll have to add the black borders to the side to make the horizontal res up to 1280.

You can't use force film on titles like this, it was "scanned" in a telecine machine the same as 1993 star wars LD's were. This title was originally a laserdisc too. There'll be orphaned fields and changes in the pulldown pattern throughout. Having a quick look though, one time the pattern suddenly changes in-scene is at 16:10 where you can see 2:3:2:3:2:3 as normall and then suddenlty 3:4 (three interlaced frames followed by four progressive), evidence of video editing/splicing. It probably only happens half a dozen times or so, and so would be difficuilt to find more examples without going through every frame of film specifically looking. Generally, I never use Force Film if I know the source is "hard telecine" as opposed to "soft telecine".

My format will be x264, mkv. I only care about streaming from my PC to my TV, not about burning copies onto discs, if authoring AVCHD then all you need to do as you said is add the side borders at the end of the script before encode. Or, you could resize to 1280 x 768 (instead of 1200 x 720) and then crop 24 pixels from the top and 24 from the bottom to arrive at 16:9 (1.778:1).