Possessed

generalfrevious said:

Possessed said:

Well I'd hate to be that guy to push drugs or drinking on somebody.

 Thank you very much: now I'll go overdose on some heroin.

 Why jump straight to heroin?  I was thinking like some pot.  That'd help you be more at peace with the world, and without overdosing  or dying.  I'm not even being that sarcastic, you really seem like you could use a good joint.  It wouldn't hurt you and it would help with your general despair.

Well I'd hate to be that guy to push drugs or drinking on somebody.

Ah.

Back?  Because he hasn't been online since yesterday?

Interesting idea.  I seem to remember when the movies were coming out that it was purple because Samuel Jackson specificially asked for a purple one so that he could better see himself on screen in scenes with dozens of jedi fighting.  Who knows if it's true but it's what I've always thought.  So I guess it's purple just so Sammy can watch himself doing the jedi acrobatics lol.

You're so funny. I would have never expected you to make that joke, you're so clever and spontaneous.

Sarcasm aside, just joking, it would be a waste if you hadn't.

generalfrevious said:

I'm even wondering if he was ever funny to begin with.

 He was, but you're right it ruined him for me as well.

I HATE watching movies with my friends.  They just WILL NOT shut up throughout the entire movie.   They'll make a big point of "yeah yeah let's watch that movie I've always wanted to see that" then throughout the whole thing they just talk to each other and make jokes (which aren't even about the movie just random jokes) and talk about their memories or girls or what the fuck ever for the WHOLE FUCKING MOVIE.  Then every 5 to 10 minutes they'll look at me and be like "So what's going on now?"  And I'm always torn between answering "If you would pay attention for 2 seconds you would know", or the even bitchier "You obviously don't care"

It is really annoying.  I am about to refuse to watch anything with them anymore.

Cross the Styx-Sinister.

You're claims that the bible have changed may be true, but that has no effect on my argument.  The references to spheres and the earth being suspended over empty space are still there in the original manuscripts.  Ships are still being built modeled after the ratios of noah's ark.

You say you'd expect something more accurate from an all knowing being.  I see that point, but I view it not as him/her not knowing exactly what's going on, but the humans he's told not understanding or comprehending.  

At the end of the day you really can't prove he exists.  You can't prove he doesn't exist either though.  Arguing about it will always be fruitless because there is no definitive argument for either side.

I personally believe God exists, but in a form not recognized by man.  But I can't prove this any more than you can prove God doesn't exist.

You can point out errors in scripture all day, and while these claims may be 100% true, all they prove is that the beings who wrote them are flawed, not their subject matter.  Even the bible itself says it was "inspired" by God.  Not directly written.

All I'm saying is just as we can't prove God is real, you can't prove he isn't.  If you think you can, you're wrong.  You might even be right and there might be no god, but there's no way to definitively prove that.  All you can prove is that the people who have written about him make mistakes.

There very well may be no God.  But there's no way to find out for sure until our number is called.

For the record I don't worship or praise God at all.  I believe he's real, and I believe he's a dick.  A big dick that sticks its head into holes without caring what's best for those holes.

Plus "suspended over empty space" is pretty specific.  Sounds like orbit to me.  Or at least an ignorant person's interpretation of what we now know is merely orbit.

Check this one out.

https://answersingenesis.org/answers/books/taking-back-astronomy/the-universe-confirms-the-bible/

Some of the points are definitely far fetched and I don't buy all of it, but interesting points and food for thought none the less.  I will admit some of it is a stretch.

Another interesting point is that the "3 by 5 by 5" rule when building large waterships came from the story of Noah and the *very specific* instructions he was given to build the ark by, and alot of that is still followed to this day.

Again, not concrete evidence, but worth noting.

dclarkg said:

 

 I expected something more than mild-suggestions that might come from interpretations due to language transcripts or editing that the text has suffered across the many many centuries, 

The original transcripts are still available and they read the same.  The bible has not changed so much from translation as people like to lead you to believe.

Plus in genesis it mentions light and dark on the earth being separate, which also implies a sphere.  And that's how it looks when earth is viewed from outer space.

My personal opinion is that all gods are real but not what we commonly think they are.  I hate to use the term "aliens" because that makes me sound like a nut, but basically I believe aliens have influenced our creation and development, and have manifested themselves as "gods" to give us something tangible to understand.

To me this explains the circle vs sphere thing.  The bible talks about people being taken straight to the heavens (more than just Jesus, it happens at least two other times.  One to Elijah, and another to somebody else that I can't remember their name).  So perhaps the writers viewed the earth from space in some manner, and had no knowledge of what spheres and the like and simply described it as a circle because that's what it appeared to be to them.

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

Possessed said:

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

If this were strictly true, then Jews/Christians would still believe the Earth is flat and at the centre of the universe, the Hindus would believe the Earth is supported on the backs of elephants standing on the back of a giant turtle, etc.

 Not sure about that... does the Bible actually mandate a flat earth?

 Actually the bible implies multiple times that the earth is round.

 Yeah that's what I thought.  Thanks for the references.

 No problem.  And actually here's another one on a somewhat similar train of thought:

Somewhere in Genesis, not sure where, it mentions all the continents being together as one mass of land that then separates.  The idea we now call pangea.  (sp?)  I always found that interesting, especially seeing as they didn't exactly have globes that they could look at and go "Hey, they fit together like a puzzle" back then.  Not exactly concrete proof of divine insight, but worth noting nonetheless.

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

If this were strictly true, then Jews/Christians would still believe the Earth is flat and at the centre of the universe, the Hindus would believe the Earth is supported on the backs of elephants standing on the back of a giant turtle, etc.

 Not sure about that... does the Bible actually mandate a flat earth?

 Actually the bible implies multiple times that the earth is round.

The only times it says otherwise is either in poetry (not in actual description), and the other one people go to is in Revelation when it says angels are standing at the four corners.  But if you read the surrounding verses it becomes clear that it actually refers to the four cardinal directions of N,S,E,W.

In Job it says the earth is suspended over empty space.  Isaiah 40:22 says "He sits on his throne above the CIRCLE of the earth"

Also in Luke 17 around verse 30 it implies that where it is dark at one time in another place it is light at the same time, which could not happen if the earth is flat.  There are others.

You said ask ANYTHING.  Did you mean it had to pertain to being an atheist?  If so I withdraw the question.

Do you go all the way to the base?

I'm over it.  I misinterpreted your intentions hotrod and I'm sorry.  I just mean there's not really any point in my posting it for one person, they can see it on the soundcloud page.  I'm not bitching about it just stating it. I was already over it with my last post but somebody else brought it up again.  (for what it's worth I forgive them too.  lol)

Well I guess I'll just abandon this thread and let you guys flame each other.  There's no point in trying to salvage it. Only one person here seems interested in what it was supposed to be about, and that person can always check my soundcloud page to see if I've added new things, so there's no point to continue to update.  This has gone so far off base, I don't even care anymore.  What a great forum.

Have fun kids.  Flame safely.  Use protection.

I took it as insulting, maybe you didn't mean it that way, if so I apologize.   Either way I did overreact, so I apologize for that regardless.

Also if Frink had said that it wouldn't have pissed me off at all, so I guess it's unfair of me to have favoritism as regards to who makes what comment, so in that regard I was in the wrong also.  Especially since I've never really had problems with him in the past, so it was even more wrong of me to have preconceived notions based purely on observations with others.  So I apologize to Hotrod for that misstep. 

HotRod said:

Calm down you dick!!

 You come into my thread and insult me with zero provocation whatsoever and I'M the dick?

Seriously dude, what's your problem? Is this what you do for fun?

Will do, little shit.

Still waiting for you to share something more impressive.  Seeing as you get your jolly's from anonymously insulting people you've never met over the internet, I guess this is unlikely.

You're just a pitiful excuse for a person.

And with this thought in mind, I am very calm.  I do see humor in what you said now, but not for the reasons you wanted me too.  You're just a little shit and I pity you.

But by all means, keeping trolling over the internet.  You probably don't have much else of a social life or you'd see how sad it is.

How about you fuck off.  If you don't like the music, don't listen to it.  No need for this shit.  Do I post in your projects and say dumb shit?  If you even had any projects I wouldn't.  If you do have any it's news to me.  I can't control that only one person has responded.

 I worked really hard on these, and if you can do better then please by all means share.  

If anybody else had said this it would be fine, but I'm automatically pissed off just because it was you.  Go fuck yourself.

By the way, here's another video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIaHN2rVhG4

Just in case you're actually interested in the guitar side of things.

It will! So will diet mt dew.