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Fck y!
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Fck y!
Wht crs thrd ndd. wndr f nyne cn tll wht 'm syng?
Pssssd knws, pssssd ndrstnds, pssssd s vry slpy.
This centuries-long argument between ‘saved by grace’ and ‘faith needs good works’ is like watching the blind-folded men and the elephant.
Paul was warning against imagining that works will save. There are too many improper motivations for works. Fear of punishment, lust for rewards, thirst for honor among men… You can quickly take your eyes off the bouncing ball. It is devotion that results from the realization of the free gifts for salvation that comes first. Remember Jesus and the sisters. You shouldn’t be so concerned with being a proper host/hostess that you completely lose sight of the purpose of the gathering.
James was concerned with the causal link between faith and works. Simply believing that the Deity will do this or has done that, without it affecting the world in some positive way, is a dead faith. It has no activity. It probably has no Grace attached to it. James was exhorting the faithful to let works affirm and reinforce their faith.
Actually this post makes good sense, don’t dismiss it just by it’s author.
Ths tpcs bn rnd fr whl nw
Hy drcll, d y lk yr stks bn n r bn t? Nd whts yr fvrt knd f pzz. Crst nd tppngs.
Does it make the opposite clear, that faith with nothing else is all that is needed?
It explicitly says the opposite, actually. According to some people’s interpretations, it does, but the Letter of James says:
“What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? […] So also faith of itself, if it does not have works, is dead.”
Dead faith is still faith nonetheless. James refers to works being the evidence of faith. Works have nothing to do with salvation according to the New Testament.
Wrong.
Living according to Catholic teachings is doing a heck of a lot. Take a look at Mother Theresa, for example. For most people, it just means trying to make the lives of everyone else around you better, in simple ways, but even then, it’s only nothing if you’re not really trying…
Other than not having sex before marriage and just being a decent person in general I don’t think living by those tenets is a particularly difficult challenge.
You’ve boiled Christianity down to just about nothing, and if you see it that way, it’s no wonder it seems easy. Even simple things, like being friendly with someone who’s a jerk to you, or performing random acts of kindness whenever the opportunity shows itself are easier said than done.
Volunteering in soup kitchens; protesting unjust laws; doing every chore, school assignment, and task at your job to the best of your ability; donating a sizeable amount of what you earn to charity; being cheerful even when your day has been crappy; cleaning the toilets so another family member doesn’t have to do it instead; sacrificing your time to help an acquaintance – or a stranger – with some difficulty; visiting people in the old folks home or the hospital just to cheer them up; taking the time to talk (cheerfully, sympathetically, and patiently) to that person who just won’t leave you alone and feels the desparate need to tell you their life story; or not getting angry at the guy who cuts you off in traffic are just a few of the things that every good Christian should do consistently, so far as they are able. Do I do them all? No. Most of them, yes, but it is very difficult to take time out of your schedule and visit strangers, or to not be irritable when you’re having a bad day, so as not to make it a bad day for other people.
Being kind to someone who wronged you is hard I admit but that depends on the person. Also “easier said than done” does not equate to “difficult”. It’s only difficult if you have little free time but the acts themselves aren’t.
The most difficult part about them is doing it when you don’t want to, which is generally most of the time. Many of those things involve sacrificing one’s free time, which is easy enough to do on occasion, but not all the time.
I don’t think you’ll find that there are many people who do all, or even most, of those things (Catholics included). I do know several people who do, but the one thing they have in common is that they’re all Christian (and almost all Catholic). I have yet to meet a non-religious person, non-practising Christian, or someone from another religion who does even the majority of those things–though that’s not to say there aren’t any (and I can’t say I know a ton of atheists, agnostics, Muslims, etc. either).
I think even doing 2 or 3 good deeds a day is consistent enough to satisfy Yahweh. 2 or 3 isn’t hard at all.
Your ignorance of the Bible is very clear in this statement.
Care to elaborate?
It’s very clear in its condemnation of self-righteousness and relying on good works.
I never condemned self righteousness and doing good deeds; I have merely stated that being a decent person and doing good deeds is easy…that’s all lol
I meant that the Bible is opposed to relying on your ability to do good works.
Well that’s only when it comes to doing nothing but still having your prayer answered…Which is a completely specific circumstance.
I’m not sure what you’re referring to. I was saying that the Bible is clear that good works play no factor in what gets a man to heaven.
What about the passage (I think its in James) “faith without works is dead”?
Jedit: should have read the rest of the thread.
Ts rll hrd t pst n ths thrd wth tcrrct n. Mks m wnt t drnk t xss.
Quite.
It definitely is better.
And TFA is in my opinion better than ROTJ.
But it is inarguably, factually better than Ghostbusters 2. This is not an opinion.
I really should go in and finish my ROTJ edit I started years ago… I really think I was on to something. I was pretty much done with it but it was in SD and when I restarted it in HD I just never could muster the necessary enthusiasm. I blame my lifestyle.
Calm down Frink, go have some tea. Remember your blood pressure!
Nope it’s neglify.
+1
x7
X8 was much better but 1-3 are the best.
Nope it’s neglify.
Here, here!
Oops, your rite.
Here, here!
My sympathies warb. Stay strong and stay you. I know I give you a lot of ribbing on here but you’re an excellent human being. Don’t be bothered by your numbness. We all react to grief in our own way and you don’t owe anyone an explanation or even need one for yourself. Just feel whatever you feel in your own way.
I really wish making a joke about liking orange forums better or having gone to the supermarket and not having seen him would have been funny, because that is what first came to mind.
I haz fuds 4 u 2 eat
He’s right about cigarettes though, right?
List Of Common Foods Possessed Hasn’t Had, Including but not Limited To:
Jello, pudding, yoghurt, any kind of cake other than birthday, any kind of ice cream but plain chocolate or vanilla, sugar cookies, any cookies besides chocolate chip actually, pears, any kind of pie besides pizza, any kind of egg besides scrambled, cottage cheese, almost any fish, most candy bars, waffles, French toast, any kind of milkshake besides chocolate, smoothies, omelettes, and many more similar things that I can’t think of.
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Man, I just made one hell of a sandwich for lunch.
That’s badass man, I’m gonna need more details.
Odd, I don’t like children but I wuved it.
Then get a cheap keyboard and learn to play it, then maybe saving up to buy a piano will seem worthwhile.
I don’t want to live in this world anymore. Farnsworth style.