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Obiwan never owns R2 in the prequels actually. But it is odd he would say that in anh. Unless you want to head canon it and say he knew it was anakins and was just lying about it, seeing as he lied about anakin in his hut later too.
Four frames cut from the shoot out and added to the fade out would fit with what I remember having to do to keep sync.
You could at least have somebody say “Do a barrel roll.”
I’m not a big fan of Kristen either but I was always fine with her mary Jane.
Here are the differences between the 97 SE, the 2004 DVD and the 2011 BR versions. 97 and 2004 are in perfect sync except for Han/Greedo shootout. They edited it and changed the length. They changed it again in 2011, adding 4 frames (including the Greedo puppet) - they also removed 4 frames from the end of reel one to make the overall running time match. At least this is how the TB/G’kar mix I made worked out. To make the video and audio match, you’d want to lift the Han/Greedo audio from 2011 (or 2004 if you want to sync to that one). I can do it while I’m syncing the 97 DTS to the TB/G’kar mix. Good practice for extracting the audio from the 2011 DTS track.
While we are on the subject, anyone know of a good tool that will extract the multi-tracks (DTS/AC3/AAC) to mono waves and correctly label them? I had a very good tool for that, but it was on my old (currently defunct and in storage) computer. I have a way right now, but is is clumsy and lossy (I’d have to convert to aac and then import into Vegas).
Unless the dts mix I have is just missing a few frames the 2011 version also has extra blank black frames in the fade out while Luke and droids walk into the hut.
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I concur. Much better than the “amazing” reboot from a few years ago. Totally don’t get the hate for toby as Peter Parker. I thought both of those movies were very well done.
I disagree. Garfield was far better than Toby for me. The first of the Amazing reboots was quite good. The only one from the Raimi trilogy that impressed me all that much was the second. Never understand the mass amount of love for the first one. I still think it is a pretty mediocre flick.
Well, first off, you’re just plain wrong. 😛
But really, the first two Raimi films are what I consider masterpieces of modern cinema, and they are among the most perfect comic book films ever made.
Not only is Raimi an amazing director, but he was pretty much the perfect director they could’ve gotten. He’s a fan of the comics, he enjoys and understands the characters, and he’s just plain fun. Everything he brought to those films blows Marc Webb out of the water. Who wants a “dark and gritty” Spider-Man film? I’d rather have some comic book optimism.
And the hate for Tobey Maguire as Peter has no legs to stand on. He was perfectly cast (along with everyone else, actually). People seem to complain about a few things in general; he makes weird faces at times/is just goofy looking, he cries too much (understandable and well performed every time save for the third film), and he’s supposedly not “transformed” enough under the mask. None of these complaints that I’ve read/heard make any sense. Andrew Garfield is just awful as Peter IMO. He’s not a genius nerd who gets picked on by bullies, he’s a genius hot guy who protects those who are bullied and he’s just kind of a jerk sometimes, and his performances are just bad most of the time.
J.K. Simmons is J. Jonah Jameson.
Cliff Robertson is Uncle Ben.
Rosemary Harris is Aunt May.
Willem Dafoe is Norman Osborn.
The only complaint about those films that I understand is that Maryjane is underdeveloped. This is somewhat valid, but even this I don’t feel is really that valid either, because she is developed as much as she needs to be, and though she may be a primary character, the films aren’t really about her. I’m fine with what they did, because she does have a developed character, despite being weaker than some others. And Kirsten Dunst does a great job with her.
If you’re interested in wasting an hour of your life, this shows a lot about why people love the first two Raimi films:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD3h_bT0Mfg
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I’ll have to look into it. I’ve never hosted a torrent before. Downloaded many and always seed but never made my own. Should I upload the full mpg file or make a smaller mp4? Probably both.
We should probably continue this discussion somewhere else though don’t want to derail this thread anymore.
I did it for my own personal viewing as well, but I also cut in the entire mos eisley sequence from despecialized ( color matched and upscaled to match the surrounding footage from the blu rays) and I no longer have the synced-but-not-edited file. However once you get past the initial syncing at the beginning there are only two places where it goes out of sync that I remember. (Which is to say there might be more that I’ve forgotten since I did it).
When it fades to black on tatooine I think you have to add some extra frames of silence to keep sync, and you also will have to resync after the han/greedo shootout because they changed the timing on that as well.
Also anybody that wants the version I’ve thrown together I’d be happy to share as well. 2011 video but with telecine7s re rotoscoped lasers, the 97 sound mix, audio patched in from adywans to fix the audio cut on the sand people scene, and entire mos eisley original. (Including greedo never shooting and no jabba scene) I doubt I’ll ever share it publicly though as I doubt the demand is very high for something like this. Also its mpeg2 because it works better on my system. (But it’s bd-25 sized at an average of about 22 mbps and it still looks great even on a huge screen. Mpeg4 is much better for smaller bitrates but once you get up to around 20 mbps I think they are pretty close and mpg2 loads quicker on my system. Also sound is unfortunately 448 kbps 5.1 ac3 but it’s sourced from the dts track so it’s still better than the dolby track that’s on the laserdisc as it’s less compressed and it’s much better than even the dts 2011 mix)
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I concur. Much better than the “amazing” reboot from a few years ago. Totally don’t get the hate for toby as Peter Parker. I thought both of those movies were very well done.
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Okay old man.
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And there are other things going on in that ROTJ poster. It’s not just a pile of heads.
Well yeah it’s not a slasher film…
He wasn’t conservative, he supported Bernie and didn’t even like trump remember?
The closest thing I would think would be if you ripped the audio from adywans purist version of revisited which would kinda be like the 2004 mix with mono mix changes. Unfortunately the 2004 mix was used as a base and it sounds like garbage. (Nothing can save that abomination of a mix the 97 is much better imo. Vaders voice is the only thing good about the 04 mix.)
This post doesn’t really answer your question but I had fun making it.
Due to having to re-encode it, if people see it, they might think twice.
You wouldn’t even have to reencode it just to remove a bump if you know how to use avidemux.
You’re welcome!
This might be almost as controversial as my lack of bagel experience, but I haven’t had pancakes in about ten years or so. I’ve also never had a waffle.
Do I look like Dasani to you man?
I’m confused. This seems like a question, but the question mark is confusing me?
Drank an entire bottle of champagne just now. Barely feel anything. Maybe it’s time for another lengthy dry spell.
That’s what Dasani says about the salt they put in their water. Negligible amount of sodium, but WHY ARE YOU SALTING THE WATER AT ALL. Fuck Dasani.
Well, if it is just ANH, and mostly isolated lines, I might have to add it to the list of things to restore. If I do that, I don’t think I can resist restoring Beru’s lines to the mono mix version. As much as you are complaining about the mixing of the 2011 mix, her lines have always sounded horribly mixed to me.
Yeah, to me it’s just ANH. ESB and ROTJ sound fine.
Here’s some mp3’s for comparison. Both are completely untouched other than downmixing to stereo (didn’t bother doing a “proper” dolby stereo downmix since we’re just listening for dialogue)
2011: http://tindeck.com/listen/jpxig
1997: http://tindeck.com/listen/dfvgx
Note the distortion in the dialogue and the flat overall acoustics in the 2011 version. Not to mention inconsistent quality, and a lack of high end. These are both equally compressed so while neither are fully representative, they still show which is superior. In my opinion anyway, the 1997 blows the 2011 out of the water in every respect.
The sound effects and music aren’t noticeably terrible in 2011, but they still sounds better in the 1997 mix. The 2011 mix is very dull and shrill sounding and doesn’t have enough treble, while the 97’mix sounds full and vibrant.
Shut up?
I wouldn’t exactly say I’m glad it came to this. I mean I’m sure he’s a genuinely nice guy. But like Jay said (or implied anyway) the forum is just way more enjoyable without him.
Then why did you report it?
And yes, decaff please.
They’re probably still trying to get over the shock that you found something on this forum offensive, just give it some time.
The one Jetrell Fo so kindly reseeded is the raw wav extract of the DTS discs. Exactly what I was looking for.
As for the quality of the mixes, the 97 mix is just the good old OOT 93 mix with additions (but the added benefit of being in the original separate channels for full 5 channel surround sound). The 2001 version is remixed from the original elements. That particular edit sounds deliberate to me with the first line being lower than in previous mixes. I will have to check out the quality part when I can listen to it with headphones.
Well it’s not just that it’s lower it’s also equalised completely different and sounds like an old battered cassette tape or something. Very muffled and muddy sounding. Not so in other mixes. You are right about the 97 being mostly just a more discrete 93 mix though, but to me it just sounds better. The 2011 mixes for esb and rotj sound great though.
Some of tarkins lines sound off too. Vader sounds better than ever though.